Dhanush the Indian Bofors

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  1. garg_bharat

    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    You are absolutely 100% wrong.
    ASAT project was sanctioned only in 2016.

    There is no airborne KALI weapon.

    You are engaging in wild speculation.
     
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  2. neeraj_

    neeraj_ Regular Member

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    Actually we did had capability but the project wasn't sanctioned It is mentioned by Previous ISRO chief if I remember correctly.

    The other part he learned from WhatsApp factory . Though I wonder on what scale we have the capability to create natural disaster like situation in Porkistan .May be we can use dams to flood them during monsoon or dry them out when they need water.

    We need to break their internal economy that feed these people. War should be the last option for now.
     
  3. garg_bharat

    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    Boss avalanche can be triggered by an explosive charge.

    Yes microwaves can be used as well as water absorbs microwaves. But explosive is more efficient.

    Creating a mobile particle accelerator with enough mass and energy in the beam is no small challenge.
     
  4. G10

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    Nobody can hide a ASAT test. You cannot hood wink uncle sam and ruskies at that level.
     
  5. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Unnecessary extraneous issues being brought into the subject.
    Our Scientific community is more of James Bonds and very less scientist inventors or problem solver.
    They offer everything else except for what is asked for. That has become a survival doctrine for DRDO.
    If Indian Army asks for MPATGM offer them a 40 kg missile. If Army wants a sub machine carbine / gun offer them Trichy Rifle or Ghatak or an LMG instead.:pound::pound::pound:
     
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    The larger chamber results in higher pressure and in turn to longer range but at the expense of higher weight. So, this is what I intended to say. Since AtHOS has same chamber capacity as Dhanush, it makes little sense to select it
     
  7. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Size of chamber is not critical issue but the weight is. 23 ltr chamber is good enough for highest BMC and for achiving 45 km range. It can fire all kinds of existing ammunition including a mini nuclear shell.

    "Mobility" is important for Indian conditions and weight is a factor that impinges on mobility. Simple.

    For the moment Dhanus has no comparsion with ATHOS as the former is 45 caliber Howitzer and later 52 caliber with a range of 38 km and 45 km respectively. Inspite of that ATHOS is cheaper than Dhanus

    Dhanus will have to come up with 52 caliber howitzers, a technology which OFB have developed for ATAGS and therefore should be easy without incurring any additional cost in developing a technology They have all basic wherewithal im matellergy and forging capacities hence should be competitive in pricing.



    Let us see how things work out. They are in competitive process so they better pull up their socks rather than pulling strings.



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  8. garg_bharat

    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    Me thinks Dhanush will stay as is. ATHOS 400 units is cleared for purchase. ATAGS order is in pipeline for a significant quantity. Next 3 years should see a min 500 towed units getting inducted. Exciting times for artillery.
     
  9. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Indigenous Might
    Kalyani Group facility to produce 250 ATAGS a year

    Younis Ahmad Kaloo

    At the recently concluded 10th edition of DefExpo, which witnessed the participation of 671 exhibitors, of which 517 were local, India’s defence manufacturers had on display their sophisticated weapon systems and offered them as solutions to modern-day needs of the Indian armed forces.



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    Kalyani Group’s stand


    Kalyani Group, an Indian multinational showcased five-gun platforms, including the 155/39 calibre gun system called Ultra-Light Howitzer (ULH) which was launched at the exhibition. Termed the ‘futuristic artillery gun’, the ULH comes in two variants: the conventional Recoil ULH and Advance Hybrid Recoil ULH.

    According to the company, Conventional Recoil ULH is a 155mm/39 calibre long range field artillery weapon system weighing less than 4.8 tonnes. While Advance Hybrid Recoil ULH is a variant of Conventional ULH which incorporates state-of-the-art advanced recoil system, thus further bringing down the weight of the gun to less than 4.5 tonnes.

    The guns, as the company said, have been explicitly designed to meet the growing requirements for flexible and accurate artillery fire support capable of rapid re-deployment by the battlefield helicopters and also being towed by lightweight limber or utility vehicles. Moreover, the ordnance of both the guns was proof fired at P2 pressure March this year at CPE, Itarsi.

    “Kalyani Group has always been at the forefront of technology and is today a one-stop solution for artillery platforms. The ULH is a complete game changer and puts us straight up on the world map. We have designed and developed these ULHs which are futuristic in outlook and use. This will ensure that the solution remains valid and in service for a very long time, thereby proving to be cost and effort effective solution. These guns are the perfect example of ‘Make in India’,” said Director of Kalyani Strategic Systems Ltd, Rajinder Singh Bhatia.

    Chairman and managing director, Bharat Forge, Baba N. Kalyani while addressing a media gathering at the exhibition also spoke about the features of the gun and offered it as a solution to the Indian Army’s artillery requirements in tougher terrains.




    “We have a tough job carrying artillery as compared to China, which has built four-lane roads at the top of the mountains. Our ULH can be lifted by a helicopter,” he said.

    Kalyani Group’s other artillery products include Bharat 52, Bharat 45, Garuda 105 and Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS), which it has developed in partnership with Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). The Group’s contribution to the making of the ATAGS involves gun structure, gun control and automation, barrel and breech and battery command post.

    “We have been able to fire up to 48 kilometres in range, which is the highest ever range that a 155mm/52 calibre artillery gun has been able to achieve in normal ammunition. The consistency and accuracy of firing is extremely good. The gun is very stable and has fired more than a thousand rounds so far and has had no trouble,” said Kalyani at DefExpo-2018 in Chennai. “We a have plant ready which can produce roughly 250 guns a year,” he added.

    Exhibition apart, Kalyani Group also made some announcements about forging relations with foreign companies and expanding the product profile. In one such announcement the company said that Kalyani Group and Technodinamika, the holding company in Russia, have decided to come together to form a strategic partnership for producing the undercarriage systems in India for all types of aircrafts. A memorandum of understanding (MoU) was also signed in this regard. In yet another announcement the company said that along with TR Research and Development Ltd. it is working to develop and provide diving support systems, unmanned underwater vehicles/ autonomous systems and batteries for Indian defence.
     
  10. Bhadra

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  11. ram singh तोपची

    ram singh तोपची Regular Member

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    it does not matter you have such things in theory or on paper what matters is actual validation of such things like ASAT validation and to do that one needs to have ba--s of steel and BJP had that body part made of steel .I am no BJP fan
     
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