China has military presence in Gilgit-Baltistan (PoK)

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  1. BangersAndMash

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    That's what prostitutes do....sell their body in exchange for favours/money!
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    it may not be as good as gone at the moment but with China troops encroaching shouldn't we expect them to move in more and more and cover a greater territory ? . The west will not intervene but only talk big as would India too.
    What will goi do , seriously ? especially with the great economic cooperation which namo is getting or seeking from China he may not be in a position to do anything .
    The paks have sold it to China in return for defence pact .

    The best solution for India is to engage with Vietnam in the SCS and with Japan in the ECS .TO compensate by being more aggressive on that side. To try to recover GB from China is to engage in direct confrontation at the border areas and will be too uncomfortable for us .


    To be much more aggressive in the SCS and ECS is a far better solution and economically more viable eg protecting oil rigs which deliver benefit to us through our joint ventures with both Vietnam and Japan.

    Another still viable option is to get into Baluchistan physically and wrench it away form Pak because China is not yet in there , but i don't think goi has the nerve to do that.

    China is protecting the northern part of the railway but loads of it has to pass through baluchistan and pakhtunkhwa and those areas are unprotected .
     
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    Wrong, the railway link will pass through Islamabad into Punjab bybassing KPK and from Punjab to Karachi and finaly from Karachi to Gwadar.

    Physically harming Balochistan would be a suicide mission for India. It's not East Pakistan, remeber that.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    Many thanks for your clarification about the route of the rail line ....even assuming that you are right it is by no means a "done deal" . And never fear about Indian in Baluchistan , after all they totally respect the boundary lines - just like Mr N !

    great time of the early mornings to be replying to each other eh Amigo ?....bye for now - see you tomorrow !
     
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    Change in Pak-China Economic Corridor route opposed
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    ISLAMABAD: The senators asked the government to seek an approval of the Council of Common Interest (CCI) before changing the route of Pak-China Economic Corridor.
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    The government is envisaging changes in the route to ensure the security of Chinese envoys.
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    The joint opposition in the senate opposed this proposal without the permission of the CCI – the highest constitutional body dealing in inter-provincial issues.
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    The issue of realignment surfaced during a meeting of Senate Standing Committee on Finance held on Wednesday.
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    The Federal Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal asked the opposition to find out investors for constructing this important corridor on BOT (build-operate-transfer) basis and then there will be no change in the original plan.
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    However, the panel adopted the recommendation of the joint opposition for asking the government to take the CCI’s permission.
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    The senators, hailing from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, argued the new alignment excludes many areas of their provinces as the new route largely passes from Punjab.
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    Senator Sardar Fateh Mohammad said the government changed the original Gawadar connectivity route and excluded the Pushtun and Baloch belts. He said Balochistan has reservations over the change in route.
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    Senator Ilyas Bilour said the Maulana Fazul Rehman told him the government changed the route on the desire of China. While quoting Maulana Fazal-Ur-Rehman, Bilour said Chinese Ambassador in Pakistan ruled out Beijing’s pressure on government to change the route.
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    Senator Talha Mahmood said that the government was not fully exploiting the opportunity, asking that it should seek maximum benefits in return as China was solely depending to cater development needs of its western part.
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    Pakistan and China had signed initial agreements for $34 billion investment in Pakistan. On the occasion, Secretary Planning and Development Hasan Nawaz Tarar opposed the move for seeking nod of CCI, saying that the corridor was being built under a bilateral arrangement and therefore, there was no need for seeking approval of the CCI.
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    The secretary planning said that the corridor would be built on new lines after China refused to finance the other route.
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    Iqbal urged the nation to avoid provoking sentiment of provincialism, warning it could hurt the national development agenda. He said the government has not abandoned the original route, called western route.
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    It has only decided to first construct the eastern route with Chinese assistance.
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    The planning minister informed the standing committee both countries have agreed to build the corridor along eastern alignment.
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    He said the eastern route will largely be completed on BOT basis – a facility that is not available to construct western route.
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    Dad the government adopted the old western route, the entire cost of construction would have fallen on the shoulders of Pakistan, he remarked.
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    The eastern route will be completed through combination of BOT, concessionary loans by China, but with only limited government financing. The government has not abandoned the original route, which passes through western parts of the country.
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    Pakistan will also be benefiting from the corridor and the arrangement is a win-win situation for both the countries. In future, Sino-India trade can also take place along this route, said the minister.
     

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