Agni V Missile

[sayareakd]

That is not shaped like a warhead. The picture quality appears to be taken from a negative based camera and hence possibly 1974 test

1998 test posted first on India Today.

 

[Kshithij]

Well, it was the India government provided the picture to media.



Or God can't help India convince the whole world that the nuclear tests yield was 45kt in total.



That was the problem. H-bomb can be scaled down deliberately, however it can also be a fizzle, or partly failed. That is why all P5 did mt test first: their scientists could be sure that their h-bomb theory is correct. It is like building a house: MT h-bomb is the most basic part of the whole field, like the foundation of the house while the following minimization is the upper level.

One test itself was 45kT. Rest were smaller fission bombs.

North Korea tested 200kT bomb directly without going to Megaton range. So, your theory fails here too. Also, fizzle is not practical if the maximum explosive capacity of first stage was 15-20kt while explosion was of 45kT. The second stage must have been exploded to give at least 20kT

 

[AnantS]

Thermo nuke, going into A2, that size is for A2 only.

Any official publication indicating that? I remember somewhere reading one of device exploded or to be exploded was pulled from earlier stock to check its validity. Also I dont know how correct is Wiki entry, BUt Shakti 3 is being alluded to another Thermo device without its primary

 

[AnantS]

Here is the problem: the scientists outside India estimated the actual total detonated was only 12kt for all 3 bombs on 11/05..

Yes you found out the problem but at wrong place. The problem is that wrong set of data or erroneous data that you are referring to. Even hardcore skeptics have referred to yield of Thermonuke alone to be of min 25 /22 KT. Given commie bots generally gulp down hot red $hit coming down from red commie septic tank unquestionably, I understand why erroneous figures are coming from you

 

[AnantS]

@sayareakd By the way do you know where Arun Vishvakarma posts these days? After abrupt exodus from other forum - to his brief stay in indiaforums(now defunkt!?) - to his last presence found via few presentations found in slideshare, he sort of vanished> He had very good knowledge around Indian past, current and future missile capabilities as well as payload. His predictions(more than decade back) mostly came true. Wonder if he is still active on other forums or twitter.

 

[no smoking]

North Korea tested 200kT bomb directly without going to Megaton range. So, your theory fails here too.

North Korea? Well, they claimed that was a H-bomb but no one else buys it.

Also, fizzle is not practical if the maximum explosive capacity of first stage was 15-20kt while explosion was of 45kT. The second stage must have been exploded to give at least 20kT

Again, India claims it was 45kt but outside world estimation was only 12kt. Until today, 19 years later, the dispute is not settled yet.

 

[sayareakd]

@sayareakd By the way do you know where Arun Vishvakarma posts these days? After abrupt exodus from other forum - to his brief stay in indiaforums(now defunkt!?) - to his last presence found via few presentations found in slideshare, he sort of vanished> He had very good knowledge around Indian past, current and future missile capabilities as well as payload. His predictions(more than decade back) mostly came true. Wonder if he is still active on other forums or twitter.

Arun sir is great authority on Indian missiles. I used to talk to him at his forum. Wish he started posting again.

 

[sayareakd]

Any official publication indicating that? I remember somewhere reading one of device exploded or to be exploded was pulled from earlier stock to check its validity. Also I dont know how correct is Wiki entry, BUt Shakti 3 is being alluded to another Thermo device without its primary

Nothing official but it was weapon, here.

This will fit,

Minus the grils on right side into red highlighted, part perfectly.

In 1998 this was the only Agni we had later named as Agni2.

 

[EXPERT]

All wrong. Thermonuclear warheads weigh 200kg for 200kT. No one uses boosted fission for anything above 40kT. Boosted fission is plutonium heavy while H-bomb needs little plutonium and mostly Deuterium, Tritium and U238 (fully depleted Uranium).

250kg for 20kT bomb is extremely horrible design. I am sure this is not the case.

45kT may not be fizzle. The Indian scientists tried to answer many questions about it but eventually realized that westerners were fooling India into handing over sensitive data of tests as proof by this tactic and hence stopped defending it. Thermonuclear bombs can be scaled to any extent. They just kept it low weight.

The warhead is made to be as small as possible. Look at W88 or W87 or W78 warheads - almost 1kg per 1kT.


Prithvi 1 & 2 are not tactical missile. They are liquid fuel and will be phased out. Prithvi 3 is a short ranged missile.

Prahaar will replace Prithvi 1 as the tactical missile of 150km range. Prithvi 2 may not be replaced. Pragati is export variant of prahaar. Irrelevant for India.

Shaurya is a semi cruise cum ballistic missile. It is highly maneuverable and has 700km range.

Thanks @Kshithij,
What about Agni 1P, it may replace Prithvi II.
And what can be the number of Prahar we produce in an year? Anyone?

 

[Kshithij]

Thanks @Kshithij,
What about Agni 1P, it may replace Prithvi II.
And what can be the number of Prahar we produce in an year? Anyone?

I am not sure of Agni 1P. It is a new missile. It isn't tested yet as far as I know.

Prahaar will be made like MRBL - en masse. Very accurate, weighs small and mobile. Even Pinaka Mk2 has range if 120km. So, it is likely that Prahaar will be made in large numbers, very large numbers - thousands.

Prahaar is going to be an excellent missile to target Pakistani bases close to the border and almost entire Bangladesh.

 

[Kay]

North Korea? Well, they claimed that was a H-bomb but no one else buys it.



Again, India claims it was 45kt but outside world estimation was only 12kt. Until today, 19 years later, the dispute is not settled yet.

The "outside world" quoted all types of figures from 12KT to 45KT. But you seem to be obsessed only with the lowest one - well whatever makes you sleep better.

 

[no smoking]

The "outside world" quoted all types of figures from 12KT to 45KT. But you seem to be obsessed only with the lowest one - well whatever makes you sleep better.

I have been sleeping very well because 45kt or 12kt doesn't make any different to Chinese. We have been threatened by the most powerful nuclear country - USA with hundreds million tongs yield warheads. India's nuclear weapons won't make that worse.
Instead, 12kt or 45kt will make a big difference to most of Indians' sleep.

 

[Kay]

I have been sleeping very well because 45kt or 12kt doesn't make any different to Chinese. We have been threatened by the most powerful nuclear country - USA with hundreds million tongs yield warheads. India's nuclear weapons won't make that worse.
Instead, 12kt or 45kt will make a big difference to most of Indians' sleep.

Whether you kill or you overkill - result is the same.

 

[Kshithij]

Whether you kill or you overkill - result is the same.

Actually, nukes are overhyped. 45kT won't do much. Today's world has concrete/cement based structures unlike the past wooden ones.

 

[lcafanboy]

Actually, nukes are overhyped. 45kT won't do much. Today's world has concrete/cement based structures unlike the past wooden ones.

You are wrong. Nuclear explosion in itself does not cause much damages, but nuclear fallout and radiation kills the most. Concrete buildings will remain but life will be snuffed out far & beyond and over a long period of time.........

 

[Kshithij]

You are wrong. Nuclear explosion in itself does not cause much damages, but nuclear fallout and radiation kills the most. Concrete buildings will remain but life will be snuffed out far & beyond and over a long period of time.........

Nope.
Exposure after few minutes of explosion -

Pigs exposed to H-bomb directly

2kT bomb direct exposure at 3km diatance. Absolutely no damage. You can extrapolate it to 100kT bomb

Here are your evidence of nukes

 

[Vorschlaghammer]

You are wrong. Nuclear explosion in itself does not cause much damages, but nuclear fallout and radiation kills the most. Concrete buildings will remain but life will be snuffed out far & beyond and over a long period of time.........

You're thinking of salted bomb. The idea of a salted bomb is to wrap the nuclear core into a material which will convert into radioactive isotopes when it receives neutron bombardment. The explosion will scatter this "salt" into the target area and make it radioactive to life. The same effect can be designed in a thermonuclear bomb, which is specifically meant to radiate fast neutron radiation. These are typically low yield, and these type of warheads were also used in ABM missiles in the past, the goal being the neutron radiation would fry electronics and initiate fission primary of any incoming nuclear warhead. Point is modern bomb designs are advanced enough that the amount of fallout to energy output can be controlled by specific designs.

Modern general purpose thermonuclear bombs are quite efficient, in the sense that majority of the output energy comes from the secondary fusion stage, and that is a clean reaction. On the other hand obsolete designs of pure fission type weapons can't use up all the fuel and result in large amounts of fallout.

 

[Prashant12]

DRDO lines up crucial trials of Agni-V and K-4 missiles

BHUBANESWAR: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is contemplating crucial tests of India's longest range and most potent Agni-V and Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) K-4 this month.

The two nuclear capable homegrown strategic missiles scheduled to be tested in the first month of the mission calendar are expected to add more teeth to the armed forces once they are inducted.

Defence sources said while this will be first user associate trial of 5,000-km range Agni-V before going into series of production, a successful trial of 3,500-km underwater missile K-4 will pave the way for development of its long range sibling K-5, which will have a strike range of over 5,000 km.

"The missile systems are ready. We are expecting the launch schedule in next few days. The Agni-V will be fired from a canister and the K-4 from an underwater pontoon (replica of a submarine). Both the missions are crucial for the defence preparedness," said a defence official from New Delhi.

Considered as a game-changer, the 17-meter long and two-meter wide three-stage solid-fuelled Agni-V missile can carry a payload of 1,500 kg.

The payload is likely to be heavier once the MIRVs are fitted with the missile. The 50-tonne missile can destroy targets in all Asian countries and parts of Africa and Europe Since an anti-satellite variant of long range weapon system is possible, DRDO has started looking for such variants of the most complex Agni-V, which has been developed with all advanced technologies.

Meanwhile, the priority is on integrating the missile system with multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRVs) and maneuvering warheads which can deceive enemy ballistic missile defence systems.

However, the scientists are more keen on K-4 trial as the last attempt on December 17 had failed. The missile could not be launched from the pontoon positioned in the Bay of Bengal off the Vizag coast due to some technical snags. The missile, world's best in this class, will have to undergo a couple of more developmental trials before being inducted in the armed forces.

The 12 metre tall missile weighs around 17 tonnes and can carry a warhead weighing up to 2,000 kg. The missile is powered by solid rocket propellant.

The manoeuvrable missile having an innovative system of interlacing in three dimensions can also cruise at a hypersonic speed and this exceptional feature makes it difficult to be tracked easily and destroyed by any anti-ballistic missile defence systems.

Both the missiles have strengthen the country’s position in the exclusive club of six nations including Russia, US, France, UK and China which have the capability of firing nuclear tipped missiles from air, land and undersea.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...rials-of-agni-v-and-k-4-missiles-1742984.html

 

[AMCA]

Agni-V user trial likely on Jan 18
By Express News Service | Published: 12th January 2018 04:39 AM |

Last Updated: 12th January 2018 07:19 AM | A+A A- |

BHUBANESWAR: Hectic preparations have begun at Abdul Kalam Island defence test facility off Odisha coast for the first user trial of country’s most potent longest range surface-to-surface nuclear-capable ballistic missile Agni-V. The trial would be carried out by the Strategic Forces Command (SFC) of Indian Army.

Sources said the launch window has been set and tracking equipment moved to the strategic locations. The indigenously designed and developed missile will be test fired anytime between January 18 and 19.


“The missile system is a proven one as already four trials - two from mobile launcher and two from canister have been conducted successfully. Data generated during all missions were quite satisfactory. The fresh trial would be carried out with the association of SFC to check its operational readiness,” said an official.


Developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the intercontinental range ballistic missile is the best in its class with advanced ring-laser gyros, composite rocket motors and highly accurate micro-navigation systems and inertial navigation systems.

The three-stage, 17-metre tall, two-metre wide Agni-V, is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead of about 1.5 tonnes. Weighing around 50 tonnes, it incorporates accelerometer for navigation and guidance and its accuracy level is far higher than its three earlier variants - Agni-II, Agni-III and Agni-IV.

“What makes the missile more effective and stealth is that it can be equipped with Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicles (MITRV) capable of delivering multiple warheads at different targets at long distances. The technology is under development,” said a defence scientist involved with the Agni-V project.

Since the 5000-km range missile has to traverse across the Indian Ocean, all logistic issues will have to be fixed before the launch time is fixed. A number of countries, including Indonesia and Australia will be alerted and the international air and maritime traffic within the test zone also controlled accordingly. The last test of the missile was conducted from the same test range on December 26, 2016.

 

[sayareakd]

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