Zarvan Here

[Sea Eagle]

Da Tum BadAss

Btw Welcome to DFI

 

[bose]

Zarvan after coming to this forum I have learnt few things:
1. Indians do not know anything about Pakistan.
2. They are obsessed with Pakistan and try to negate every good thing / news about Pakistan.
3. Generally Pakistanis do not hate Indians, however, you will find most Indians hating Pakistan.
4. You will find Indian muslims here to be more anti Pakistani than any other. This proves the fact that they are being watched and they are so scared that they have to show themselves as anti Pakistanis, otherwise they are branded Pakistanis.


So in the end meray bhai, there is not point spending your time here. My points will be proved to you when you see the response of these Indians

Salaam Aliakum Wa Rehmatullah Wa Barakat

You have just proved that Pakistanis know nothing of India / Indians...

 

[Blackwater]

I didn't joined this forum to like you guys just to get knowledge

miya is mauju pe tapsara kare

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ra-bustards-three-week-safari.html#post888879

 

[Blackwater]

Zarvan after coming to this forum I have learnt few things:
1. Indians do not know anything about Pakistan.
2. They are obsessed with Pakistan and try to negate every good thing / news about Pakistan.
3. Generally Pakistanis do not hate Indians, however, you will find most Indians hating Pakistan.
4. You will find Indian muslims here to be more anti Pakistani than any other. This proves the fact that they are being watched and they are so scared that they have to show themselves as anti Pakistanis, otherwise they are branded Pakistanis.


So in the end meray bhai, there is not point spending your time here. My points will be proved to you when you see the response of these Indians

Salaam Aliakum Wa Rehmatullah Wa Barakat

 

[Voldemort]

Deleted- double post.

 

[Voldemort]

Zarvan after coming to this forum I have learnt few things:
1. Indians do not know anything about Pakistan.
2. They are obsessed with Pakistan and try to negate every good thing / news about Pakistan.
3. Generally Pakistanis do not hate Indians, however, you will find most Indians hating Pakistan.
4. You will find Indian muslims here to be more anti Pakistani than any other.

That was very amusing.Try more often.

 

[musalman]

You have just proved that Pakistanis know nothing of India / Indians...

Exibit A

miya is mauju pe tapsara kare

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ra-bustards-three-week-safari.html#post888879

Exibit B

Exibit C

That was very amusing.Try more often.

Exibit D

More to come Zarvan .

 

[Sea Eagle]

Zarvan after coming to this forum I have learnt few things:
1. Indians do not know anything about Pakistan.
2. They are obsessed with Pakistan and try to negate every good thing / news about Pakistan.
3. Generally Pakistanis do not hate Indians, however, you will find most Indians hating Pakistan.
4. You will find Indian muslims here to be more anti Pakistani than any other. This proves the fact that they are being watched and they are so scared that they have to show themselves as anti Pakistanis, otherwise they are branded Pakistanis.


So in the end meray bhai, there is not point spending your time here. My points will be proved to you when you see the response of these Indians

Salaam Aliakum Wa Rehmatullah Wa Barakat

 

[musalman]

Exibit E..............

 

[sydsnyper]

Exhibit F for the amusement of our pathetic musalman friend......

"Wahhh cheete......pakistaan ki badbu yaad dila di tumhare post ne !!!"

Zarvan after coming to this forum I have learnt few things:
1. Indians do not know anything about Pakistan.
2. They are obsessed with Pakistan and try to negate every good thing / news about Pakistan.
3. Generally Pakistanis do not hate Indians, however, you will find most Indians hating Pakistan.
4. You will find Indian muslims here to be more anti Pakistani than any other. This proves the fact that they are being watched and they are so scared that they have to show themselves as anti Pakistanis, otherwise they are branded Pakistanis.


So in the end meray bhai, there is not point spending your time here. My points will be proved to you when you see the response of these Indians

Salaam Aliakum Wa Rehmatullah Wa Barakat

 

[Compersion]

Zarvan after coming to this forum I have learnt few things:
So in the end meray bhai, there is not point spending your time here. My points will be proved to you when you see the response of these Indians

Salaam Aliakum Wa Rehmatullah Wa Barakat

Exhibit G:

1. Indians do not know anything about Pakistan.

If you feel there is something that Indians do not know - why don't you correct as well as fix that and also why don't you post information that enlightens everyone on the true Pakistan. What happened to being a Patriotic Paki are you one. That is the belief of Pakis in general they do not apply reasonable means and intelligence and principles of equitable thought that would make sense.

2. They are obsessed with Pakistan and try to negate every good thing / news about Pakistan.


What is the good thing - news about Pakistan that you feel is being negated in particular. Are you confusing the reasonable views on what Pakistan is doing. Again if your views and points are reasonable you will not feel remorseful. Perhaps you need to have resolve a bit like the posters from your Heavenly Ally here that make their points and reasoning that allows for everyone to express their views.

3. Generally Pakistanis do not hate Indians, however, you will find most Indians hating Pakistan.

We have history also reasons for hating one another. But what is the present situation in relations. If what you are saying is that Pakis generally do not hate Indians why you do not express such positions and also counter that thought of Indians absolutely hate Pakis. Are you confusing the hatred to reasonable view points of Pakistan. And in the absolute calculation of hate by India place a far-away view point into your calculation among many others that India talks to Pakistan. Also someone mentioned the below points and one makes you wonder if India hates Pakistan:

- Perves Musharraf was warned of assassination attempt by Vajpayee.
- Benzir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif was assisted and supported by India.
- Shimla Agreement

4. You will find Indian muslims here to be more anti Pakistani than any other. This proves the fact that they are being watched and they are so scared that they have to show themselves as anti Pakistanis, otherwise they are branded Pakistanis.

There is far too many vibrant voices in the country of India - look at the India Elections 2014 and the wonderful choice of opinions. Perhaps you are being afraid of saying something that would show yourself to be branded to be a Indian Muslim and afraid of being watched. Whats the difference between a Paki and Indian Muslim.

I am wishing that the Zarvan has resolve and reasonableness. Good luck.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Read the forum rules, Enjoy your stay ..

 

[Blackwater]

Exibit A

Exibit B

Exibit C

Exibit D

More to come Zarvan .

Exhibit B and C will entertain and ba- khabar you more

 

[bose]

Exibit A

Please elaborate...

 

[maomao]

Welcome!

 

[trackwhack]

Hello Every one mainly Indians My name is Zarvan I am from Lahore Pakistan and also member of Pakistani defence forums to be straight forward I don't like Indians those who are on a Pakistani forum would know hope to have useful discussion specially related to defence here on this forum

You are a bigot on the other forum. I dont expect you to be any different here. If I had my way, you would not be welcome as we have a fair share of clowns here already. But I am a nobody and never have my way on DFI.

 

[ashdoc]

Zarvan , why don't you answer this ??---

Why Pakistanis hate India ( by ashdoc )

the reason for the hate goes back to the era before partition .

you see , the muslim elites of undivided india used to consider themselves as a ' master race ' who had ruled over the hindus for 6-7 centuries . remember , the mass of the common muslims didnt have this ' master race ' mentality--for they were always poorer than the common hindus , and had been converted from the lower castes of hindus anyway . but the elites had this mentality , especially those who traced their roots to foreign lands like central asia , iran and afghanistan.

now with the coming of the british rule , they ,for the first time , realised that they were a minority among the hindus......
all the mass rapes , massacres , destruction of hindu temples , forcible conversions had failed to convert the majority of hindus to islam !!

now they , long used to ruling the roost , found that they had to economically compete with the hindus for jobs--and soon found themselves outclassed in that department by the hindus !! this led them to an acute insecurity about their position in india .

when it became clear that the british were going to leave india , they ( the master race ) realised that the hated infidels ( hindus )were now going to rule the country......
the kaafir was going to rule the muslims !!
this led them on an acute trip of paranoia......

jinnah , a politician who had hoped to lead the whole of india , but found his position upsurped by mahatma gandhi , now found the chance to revive his flagging career by raising the bogey of--islam khatray mey ( islam in danger )--so that he would get the grand historical role he envisioned for himself by becoming founder of pakistan . the tool he used was the muslim league party , which was composed largely of the muslim elite. the muslim league then convinced the mass of illiterate common muslims that the hindus were making a grand conspiracy of subjugating the muslims , and a separate nation must be founded to protect their interests .

thus pakistan was born after the muslims began to riot all over india , the indian national congress realised that it was hopeless to try to keep the state united .

now things should have stopped at that-- but the muslim league wanted the new state ( pakistan ) to live upto its name and become PAK , that means pure . and pure it was to be made by massacring those hindus and sikhs who lived in pakistan . once those massacres started , the hindus and sikhs in india retaliated , and rivers of blood flowed on both sides . ultimately , west pakistan was ethnically cleansed of all hindus and sikhs ( except a few ) , and a similar ethnic cleansing occured in indian states of punjab , haryana , himachal , and upto some extent in bihar . all this bred HATE on both sides .

now remained the question of some states ruled by ancient dynasties , who had accepted british suzerainty , but had been allowed to rule their own kingdoms within british india . of these hyderabad and junagadh were hindu majority states with muslim rulers . the ruler junagadh tried to join pakistan ( inspite of the hindu majority ), and the pakistani state helped him in this . the ruler of hyderabad declared himself independent and started killing the hindus with arms given by pakistan . but this cruel and cunning gameplan by pakistan was nullified by india's superior military power . the indian army simply marched into these territories and joined them to india .

what the pakistanis didn't know was that india was going to pay them back in the same coin . kashmir was a state with a muslim majority , but having a hindu ruler . he was thinking of becoming independent ,while pakistan was planning to grab it . but jawaharlal nehru , india's prime minister was a kashmiri hindu , and didn't want his region to go to pakistan . when the pakistanis launched their invasion of kashmir , the hindu ruler asked nehru for help . nehru asked him to sign the instrument of accsesion to india . this got some legitimacy because sheikh abdullah , the leader of the kashmiri muslims , who had been waging a long battle against its hindu ruler , supported the accession . indian troops were airlifted into kashmir , and the pakistani invasion was halted with the area under pakistani control going to pakistan .

now pakistan wants the whole of kashmir under the guise of muslim majority , forgetting that it too had played the same game in respect to junagadh and hyderabad that india did in kashmir . its another matter that india's superior military power prevailed .

actually pakistan uses the ' hate-india ' card to keep its varied peoples united . hate for india , is indeed the only reason why all pakistanis can come together--otherwise pakistan would be split apart . so pakistani politicians keep the hate alive to unite pakistani people.

another reason for keeping the hate for india alive is the fact that this allows the pakistani army to justify the mammoth expenditures on itself--using a huge part of the national budget . this money is used to fuel the hi-fi and expensive lifestyles of the pakistani generals . they fear that if the hate india card falls ,then common pakistanis will demand a reduction in military budget . if that happens , where will the money to fund their lavish lifestyles come from ?? so hate for india has to be kept alive......

kashmir is the excuse , mind you , the excuse to hate india--not the reason . if kashmir goes to pakistan ,then pakistans will doubtlessly find other excuses to hate india , and keep their country from falling apart .

 

[Zarvan]

Zarvan , why don't you answer this ??---

Why Pakistanis hate India ( by ashdoc )

the reason for the hate goes back to the era before partition .

you see , the muslim elites of undivided india used to consider themselves as a ' master race ' who had ruled over the hindus for 6-7 centuries . remember , the mass of the common muslims didnt have this ' master race ' mentality--for they were always poorer than the common hindus , and had been converted from the lower castes of hindus anyway . but the elites had this mentality , especially those who traced their roots to foreign lands like central asia , iran and afghanistan.

now with the coming of the british rule , they ,for the first time , realised that they were a minority among the hindus......
all the mass rapes , massacres , destruction of hindu temples , forcible conversions had failed to convert the majority of hindus to islam !!

now they , long used to ruling the roost , found that they had to economically compete with the hindus for jobs--and soon found themselves outclassed in that department by the hindus !! this led them to an acute insecurity about their position in india .

when it became clear that the british were going to leave india , they ( the master race ) realised that the hated infidels ( hindus )were now going to rule the country......
the kaafir was going to rule the muslims !!
this led them on an acute trip of paranoia......

jinnah , a politician who had hoped to lead the whole of india , but found his position upsurped by mahatma gandhi , now found the chance to revive his flagging career by raising the bogey of--islam khatray mey ( islam in danger )--so that he would get the grand historical role he envisioned for himself by becoming founder of pakistan . the tool he used was the muslim league party , which was composed largely of the muslim elite. the muslim league then convinced the mass of illiterate common muslims that the hindus were making a grand conspiracy of subjugating the muslims , and a separate nation must be founded to protect their interests .

thus pakistan was born after the muslims began to riot all over india , the indian national congress realised that it was hopeless to try to keep the state united .

now things should have stopped at that-- but the muslim league wanted the new state ( pakistan ) to live upto its name and become PAK , that means pure . and pure it was to be made by massacring those hindus and sikhs who lived in pakistan . once those massacres started , the hindus and sikhs in india retaliated , and rivers of blood flowed on both sides . ultimately , west pakistan was ethnically cleansed of all hindus and sikhs ( except a few ) , and a similar ethnic cleansing occured in indian states of punjab , haryana , himachal , and upto some extent in bihar . all this bred HATE on both sides .

now remained the question of some states ruled by ancient dynasties , who had accepted british suzerainty , but had been allowed to rule their own kingdoms within british india . of these hyderabad and junagadh were hindu majority states with muslim rulers . the ruler junagadh tried to join pakistan ( inspite of the hindu majority ), and the pakistani state helped him in this . the ruler of hyderabad declared himself independent and started killing the hindus with arms given by pakistan . but this cruel and cunning gameplan by pakistan was nullified by india's superior military power . the indian army simply marched into these territories and joined them to india .

what the pakistanis didn't know was that india was going to pay them back in the same coin . kashmir was a state with a muslim majority , but having a hindu ruler . he was thinking of becoming independent ,while pakistan was planning to grab it . but jawaharlal nehru , india's prime minister was a kashmiri hindu , and didn't want his region to go to pakistan . when the pakistanis launched their invasion of kashmir , the hindu ruler asked nehru for help . nehru asked him to sign the instrument of accsesion to india . this got some legitimacy because sheikh abdullah , the leader of the kashmiri muslims , who had been waging a long battle against its hindu ruler , supported the accession . indian troops were airlifted into kashmir , and the pakistani invasion was halted with the area under pakistani control going to pakistan .

now pakistan wants the whole of kashmir under the guise of muslim majority , forgetting that it too had played the same game in respect to junagadh and hyderabad that india did in kashmir . its another matter that india's superior military power prevailed .

actually pakistan uses the ' hate-india ' card to keep its varied peoples united . hate for india , is indeed the only reason why all pakistanis can come together--otherwise pakistan would be split apart . so pakistani politicians keep the hate alive to unite pakistani people.

another reason for keeping the hate for india alive is the fact that this allows the pakistani army to justify the mammoth expenditures on itself--using a huge part of the national budget . this money is used to fuel the hi-fi and expensive lifestyles of the pakistani generals . they fear that if the hate india card falls ,then common pakistanis will demand a reduction in military budget . if that happens , where will the money to fund their lavish lifestyles come from ?? so hate for india has to be kept alive......

kashmir is the excuse , mind you , the excuse to hate india--not the reason . if kashmir goes to pakistan ,then pakistans will doubtlessly find other excuses to hate india , and keep their country from falling apart .

Mr we hate you far less than you guys do the kind of things said about Pakistan in election is one clear proof in our election India was never discussed but you always discuss and talk crap against Pakistan

 

[Zarvan]

You are a bigot on the other forum. I dont expect you to be any different here. If I had my way, you would not be welcome as we have a fair share of clowns here already. But I am a nobody and never have my way on DFI.

What is your name on the other forum ?

 

[trackwhack]

What is your name on the other forum ?

I am not a member. Only a lurker. It helps me understand the psyche of my nations enemy. You, along with Lundibaaz and the arab filth are the clown princes on that forum.