World Military/Paramilitary/Special Forces

[Op Kahuta]

damn they have gucci gear compared to our para sf

Except the comtacs PARA has same gucci gears as any other western SF

 

[rkhanna]

Except the comtacs PARA has same gucci gears as any other western SF

SDR
Suppressors
Binods/quads
Modern rappelling gloves
Cutting tools
Medic kit / quick clot
Kit for Integration for night ops with ISR including thing palm pilot UAV streams and strobes
Modern LBVs

I can go on

 

[Op Kahuta]

SDR
Suppressors
Binods/quads
Modern rappelling gloves
Cutting tools
Medic kit / quick clot
Kit for Integration for night ops with ISR including thing palm pilot UAV streams and strobes
Modern LBVs

I can go on

So you mean to say some of these very basic things won't be available to Para considering they participate in terror ops and cross border ops quite a lot. Hard to believe my dude. Guess the only way you will know about it if they spotted with it in active op or do a photo ops for us with their gucci gears

 

[rkhanna]

So you mean to say some of these very basic things won't be available to Para considering they participate in terror ops and cross border ops quite a lot. Hard to believe my dude. Guess the only way you will know about it if they spotted with it in active op or do a photo ops for us with their gucci gears

These are not available with the Paras. At best with a few officers who buy them with their own funds

 

[Op Kahuta]

These are not available with the Paras. At best with a few officers who buy them with their own funds

This is with regular infantry troops bro. If they have it, sure as shit para also has it. Also only officers or higher ranks having dual/quad nods doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why would operators go in blind during night raid?

 

[SGOperative]

SDR
Suppressors
Binods/quads
Modern rappelling gloves
Cutting tools
Medic kit / quick clot
Kit for Integration for night ops with ISR including thing palm pilot UAV streams and strobes
Modern LBVs

I can go on

SDRs are there (The BEL and Motorola ones) + the Suppressors are not standard issue but issued to the front guys to take out sentry and all, Cutting tools too are present + the Medic Kit they carry is just enough to get the job done.
Halat kharab hai par app ne to basic gear ki list hi bana di xD.

 

[rkhanna]

SDRs are there (The BEL and Motorola ones) + the Suppressors are not standard issue but issued to the front guys to take out sentry and all

Really? How many have you seen? What generation and level of encryption?

Remember the Myanmar opp we had to rely on cellphones

Further how are comms distributed amongst the unit. Are they dual channel for a squad net and command net ?

Are they hands free ?

Yea suppressors are their on the point man only. It was the same in the early 90s also

 

[rkhanna]

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This is with regular infantry troops bro. If they have it, sure as shit para also has it. Also only officers or higher ranks having dual/quad nods doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why would operators go in blind during night raid?

Sorry if you think the brochure means it's part of Orbat the jokes on you.

 

[SGOperative]

Really? How many have you seen? What generation and level of encryption?

Remember the Myanmar opp we had to rely on cellphones

Further how are comms distributed amongst the unit. Are they dual channel for a squad net and command net ?

Are they hands free ?

Yea suppressors are their on the point man only. It was the same in the early 90s also

The SDRs are distributed on the basis of ops wont say every guy gets one but the ones on the op do, they recently signed a deal of 1000crs with BEL and for Handsfree we use the Motorola ear piece (costs around 2000rs or something)

 

[Op Kahuta]

Sorry if you think the brochure means it's part of Orbat the jokes on you.

Uhmm so if anything that isn't visible in photo ops or not seen in active conflict isn't there with the forces? Got it. Air also isn't visible so does that mean...

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Uhmm so if anything that isn't visible in photo ops or not seen in active conflict isn't there with the forces? Got it. Air also isn't visible so does that mean...

So basically you too have absolutely no convincing proof that it’s there in sufficient quantities.

 

[Op Kahuta]

Really? How many have you seen? What generation and level of encryption?

Remember the Myanmar opp we had to rely on cellphones

Further how are comms distributed amongst the unit. Are they dual channel for a squad net and command net ?

Are they hands free ?

Yea suppressors are their on the point man only. It was the same in the early 90s also

Bro aap toh aise bol rhe hai jaise sara details army wale denge aapko ki hm ye sare weapons or equipments use karte hai tabhi aap manege warna tab tak toh hmara SFs bilkul ill equipped hai

 

[Op Kahuta]

So basically you too have absolutely no convincing proof that it’s there .

No bro I don't but I don't straight away 100% believe that we don't have it if I don't see it in a photo ops.

 

[rkhanna]

Uhmm so if anything that isn't visible in photo ops or not seen in active conflict isn't there with the forces? Got it. Air also isn't visible so does that mean...

There is something called a fallacy of argument.

I have been seeing these photo op pictures in army promos and other media since the 90s. You will rarely find that kit formation wide.

And if it's not formation wide it's not active duty kit.

With regards to air. I can breathe in the oxygen and not die. So it's there. It's 'seen' from a different perspective that's all.

 

[rkhanna]

No bro I don't but I don't straight away 100% believe that we don't have it if I don't see it in a photo ops.

Lol. It would be a grand thing if you managed to keep that optimism as you get older. Genuinely mean it

 

[rkhanna]

Bro aap toh aise bol rhe hai jaise sara details army wale denge aapko ki hm ye sare weapons or equipments use karte hai tabhi aap manege warna tab tak toh hmara SFs bilkul ill equipped hai

Army RFPs are published and RFIs are published. You won't know the full spec but when you see what generation the kit is you know where we are

 

[Op Kahuta]

With regards to air. I can breathe in the oxygen and not die. So it's there. It's 'seen' from a different perspective that's all.

Ok so by that logic if terrorists are killed in night ops by para say then ofcourse they would have used NVGs, supressors etc right? This is also seen or visible from a different perspective don't u think?

 

[rkhanna]

Ok so by that logic if terrorists are killed in night ops by para say then ofcourse they would have used NVGs, supressors etc right? This is also seen or visible from a different perspective don't u think?

Didn't understand what you said. You can do night ops without NVGs. Lots of night fighting took place in WWII

 

[SGOperative]

Didn't understand what you said. You can do night ops without NVGs. Lots of night fighting took place in WWII

RR uses the Flood Lights while i was reading through the Shiv Aroors book they have used and mentioned NVDs alot in their night time. The issue there is the type of NVDs ofc which are very old.

 

[NotASussyBoi]

gentlement talib's have successfully implemented multicam,seriously we need talib level pr these talib pr have really good camera positioning than our shitty media's army coverage pr dhamaka