Will Indonesia choose French Rafale over Russian Su-35?

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In recent months, Indonesia has been unable to decide which fighter aircraft to buy for its air force needs. It is necessary to reiterate in the early spring of 2020 that the Indonesian press after consulting sources from inside the Ministry of Defense said that Jakarta would formally sign a contract to buy a Russian Su-35 but then decided. Has been postponed.


At the same time, the Bloomberg news agency citing sources in the US President Donald Trump’s administration said that Indonesia had announced that it would no longer buy the Su-35 fighter.

Russian Su-35 fighter aircraft
Russian Su-35 fighter aircraft
Most respondents stated that US pressure was the main reason for the hasty decision. We are talking about a sanctions package under the CAATSA Act that Washington threatens to impose on all countries cooperating with Russia technically and militarily, and Indonesia is no exception.

However, a few months later, Jakarta again announced that it was ready to discuss the possibility of signing a contract for the procurement of the Su-35.

Rafale fighter aircraft
Rafale fighter aircraft
However, according to a new announcement from Indonesia, following the Washington official’s statement, the sanctions “can be imposed on countries that buy Russian rusted weapons” (This is the Assistant Secretary of State. The US on Clark Cooper’s military-political issues) forced Jakarta to rethink.


Now, the country’s media quoted senior officials saying that Indonesia was “ready to buy French Rafale fighters as an alternative”. That has led to a positive reaction, according to the Western press, producer Dassault immediately declared ready to expand production.

But what is interesting is the following detail: journalists asked representatives of the Dassault Group if Indonesia can pay for a potential contract with palm oil?

The French company representative could not answer this question, expressing his apparent bewilderment and thinking it was a joke.
 

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In recent months, Indonesia has been unable to decide which fighter aircraft to buy for its air force needs. It is necessary to reiterate in the early spring of 2020 that the Indonesian press after consulting sources from inside the Ministry of Defense said that Jakarta would formally sign a contract to buy a Russian Su-35 but then decided. Has been postponed.


At the same time, the Bloomberg news agency citing sources in the US President Donald Trump’s administration said that Indonesia had announced that it would no longer buy the Su-35 fighter.

Russian Su-35 fighter aircraft
Russian Su-35 fighter aircraft
Most respondents stated that US pressure was the main reason for the hasty decision. We are talking about a sanctions package under the CAATSA Act that Washington threatens to impose on all countries cooperating with Russia technically and militarily, and Indonesia is no exception.

However, a few months later, Jakarta again announced that it was ready to discuss the possibility of signing a contract for the procurement of the Su-35.

Rafale fighter aircraft
Rafale fighter aircraft
However, according to a new announcement from Indonesia, following the Washington official’s statement, the sanctions “can be imposed on countries that buy Russian rusted weapons” (This is the Assistant Secretary of State. The US on Clark Cooper’s military-political issues) forced Jakarta to rethink.


Now, the country’s media quoted senior officials saying that Indonesia was “ready to buy French Rafale fighters as an alternative”. That has led to a positive reaction, according to the Western press, producer Dassault immediately declared ready to expand production.

But what is interesting is the following detail: journalists asked representatives of the Dassault Group if Indonesia can pay for a potential contract with palm oil?

The French company representative could not answer this question, expressing his apparent bewilderment and thinking it was a joke.
PALM oil one is lit
LoL
 

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Indonesia purchases 6 Rafale jets with 36 additional jets to be purchased later as part of the agreement.
price $8.1 billion.

Northern Rivers Review says also a preliminary agreement for two scorpene subs.


Are the new sides of the future slowly taking shape?
 

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Yikes Taoists arming Taoists. Taoists paying with stolen money and giving stolen money to a different thief. Thou shalt not steal. So many thieves.

Like Babylon 5, Star Wars or other shows...Taoists eventually invade.
 

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So Indonesia will have both Rafale and F-15 after all.

Indonesia Cleared to Buy 36 F-15ID Aircraft for $14B

The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) confirmed the development in an official statement Thursday. Jakarta had requested to buy 36 F-15ID jets, 87 F110-GE-129 or F100-PW-229 engines (72 installed, 15 spares); 45 AN/APG-82(v)1 Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars (36 installed, 9 spares); 45 AN/ALQ-250 Eagle Passive Active Warning Survivability Systems (EPAWSS) (36 installed, 9 spares); 48 Advanced Display Core Processor (ADCP) II digital computers (36 installed, 12 spares); 80 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS) (72 installed, 8 spares); 92 Embedded Global Positioning Systems (GPS)/Inertial Navigation System (EGI) security devices; 40 AN/AAQ-13 LANTIRN navigation pods (36 installed, 4 spares); 40 AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods (ATP) (36 installed, 4 spares); 156 LAU-128 launchers (144 installed, 12 spares); and 40 M61A “Vulcan” gun systems (36 installed, 4 spares).

Also included are Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation (ACMI) (P5 CTS) training pods and support equipment; MS-110 Recce Pods; AN/ASG-34 Infrared Search and Track International; AN/ALE-47 counter-measures dispenser; AN/PYQ Simple Key Loaders; additional precision navigation, secure communications and cryptographic equipment; Electronic Combat International Security Assistance Program (ECISAP) support; Joint Mission Planning Systems (JMPS); Night Vision Goggles (NVG) and support equipment and spares; conformal fuel tanks; chaff and flares; aircraft and personnel support and test equipment; pylons, launcher adaptors, weapons interfaces, fuel tanks, and attached hardware; travel pods, precision measurement equipment laboratory, calibration, and simulators; spare and repair parts, repair and return services; maps, publications, and technical documentation; studies and surveys; classified/unclassified software and software support; personnel training and training equipment; facilities and facility management, design and/or construction services; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support.

 

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So Indonesia will have both Rafale and F-15 after all.

Indonesia Cleared to Buy 36 F-15ID Aircraft for $14B

The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) confirmed the development in an official statement Thursday. Jakarta had requested to buy 36 F-15ID jets, 87 F110-GE-129 or F100-PW-229 engines (72 installed, 15 spares); 45 AN/APG-82(v)1 Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars (36 installed, 9 spares); 45 AN/ALQ-250 Eagle Passive Active Warning Survivability Systems (EPAWSS) (36 installed, 9 spares); 48 Advanced Display Core Processor (ADCP) II digital computers (36 installed, 12 spares); 80 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS) (72 installed, 8 spares); 92 Embedded Global Positioning Systems (GPS)/Inertial Navigation System (EGI) security devices; 40 AN/AAQ-13 LANTIRN navigation pods (36 installed, 4 spares); 40 AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods (ATP) (36 installed, 4 spares); 156 LAU-128 launchers (144 installed, 12 spares); and 40 M61A “Vulcan” gun systems (36 installed, 4 spares).

Also included are Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation (ACMI) (P5 CTS) training pods and support equipment; MS-110 Recce Pods; AN/ASG-34 Infrared Search and Track International; AN/ALE-47 counter-measures dispenser; AN/PYQ Simple Key Loaders; additional precision navigation, secure communications and cryptographic equipment; Electronic Combat International Security Assistance Program (ECISAP) support; Joint Mission Planning Systems (JMPS); Night Vision Goggles (NVG) and support equipment and spares; conformal fuel tanks; chaff and flares; aircraft and personnel support and test equipment; pylons, launcher adaptors, weapons interfaces, fuel tanks, and attached hardware; travel pods, precision measurement equipment laboratory, calibration, and simulators; spare and repair parts, repair and return services; maps, publications, and technical documentation; studies and surveys; classified/unclassified software and software support; personnel training and training equipment; facilities and facility management, design and/or construction services; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support.

THIS IS CALLED FUCKUP OF THE INVENTORY

EUROPEAN + RUSSIAN + AMERICAN WEAPONS :rofl::rofl:
 

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after this order, imo we will not order 36 more rafale, instead we will go with the mmrca/mrfa.

Saurav jha had told in the indigenization appreciation hour podcast that, the mmrca will happen, no one can stop it from happening
 

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