Trump Uses the K-word, Includes Bajwa in Talks with Imran

[Haldiram]

More like a maintenance contract.



I HOPE that they go for the F 16 LK 70. It will eliminate them from the 114 RFI and Rafale will get selected!

Still, it's the same as giving them the moral approval and logistical wherewithal to continue operating a functional fleet. This is what I be sayin. It's not just some random, off-the-book comments by Trump. It's a cold calculated policy modulation that we are seeing.

During the Kargil war, these guys kept up the spare part supply to a calculated degree up to a point till they wanted the war to escalate. The moment their desired pressure point was achieved (i.e Vajpayee felt pressured to request a parlay with Clinton), they stopped the spare supplies to reel Pakistan back. Then they planted stories about how Pakistan was planning a nuclear attack on India and how peace-lover Clinton saved everyone from disaster. These motherfuckers are the ones who provide the logistics to hurt India in the first place, then control both sides like a puppet.

It's like a psychopath drilling a hole in our body and minutely controlling the trigger to modulate how deep the hole should be. Focus on the drilling person instead of the drilling machine. The drilling machine can be broken anytime, we need to cut the hand that controls it.

@hit&run It was the US who encouraged the formation of a task-force which made a tri-lateral forum for Turkey, Pakistan and USA in Afghanistan (so they could channelize NATO weapons via Turkey and maintain deniability, in case India tries to corner the US). So America thinks Turkey is a stakeholder in Afghanistan but India is not a stakeholder despite it being our backyard? this fag Trump had previously deliberately tried to downplay India's aid to Afghanistan. These are not slips-of-tongue due to a lack of briefing, these are Freudian slips. This fat pig is actually revealing what the deep state actually thinks.

Here's Doval saying the same, he is Dhoti-shivering too?

 

[hit&run]

I am waiting for what @asianobserve jiiii has to say on this.
He says na USA IS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT PARTNER.

There is no other marker to fathom importance but money trail. They have been paying Pakistan in millions.

Like the new guys here vent out their frustration I am done and dusted with it many years ago. I can relate to them but the best way forward is reading the situation correctly and offer a remedy. Continuously calling each other a stooge is not only stupid but futile.

I remember making a comment that downs in USA-Pakistan relationship have nothing to do with growing Indian influence in the USA.

 

[hit&run]

Can this happen ?
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Your post is gowing to unleash another wave of Dhoti Shivering.


This is the exact news.


WASHINGTON:

Days after the meeting between US President Donald Trump and Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan, the Pentagon notified the US Congress on Friday of its decision to approve military sales worth USD 125 million that would result in 24x7 end-use monitoring of the F-16 fighter jets of Pakistan.

US officials asserted that the freeze in security assistance to Pakistan on Donald Trump's direction since January 2018 is still in place and the latest decision would help it in 24x7 end-use monitoring of the F-16 fighter jets in that country as this would require the assignment of 60 contractor representatives there to assist in the oversight of the F-16 programme.

"There has been no change to the security assistance suspension announced by the president in January 2018. As the president reiterated this week, we could consider the restoration of certain security assistance programmes consistent with the broader tenor of our relationship," a state department spokesperson told news agency Press Trust of India.

He referred to the notification sent in this regard by the Pentagon to the US Congress on Friday.

"This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by protecting American technology through the continued presence of US personnel that provide 24x7 end-use monitoring," he said.

"The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan for Technical Security Team (TST) in continued support of the F-16 program for an estimated cost of USD 125 million," the Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a statement.

The Pentagon delivered the required certification notifying the US Congress of this possible sale on Friday.

According to the statement, Pakistan had requested a continuation of technical support services - US government and contractor technical and logistics support services - and other related elements of logistics support to assist in the oversight of operations in support of the Pakistan Peace Drive advanced F-16 programme.
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@Immanuel and Other posters can correct me but I read it as the USA now controlling and monitoring their jets 24x7. Too much of Porki propaganda post-Balakot that all their F-16 are accounted for when they were not. LOL

 

[sorcerer]

Your post is gowing to unleash another wave of Dhoti Shivering.


This is the exact news.


WASHINGTON:

Days after the meeting between US President Donald Trump and Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan, the Pentagon notified the US Congress on Friday of its decision to approve military sales worth USD 125 million that would result in 24x7 end-use monitoring of the F-16 fighter jets of Pakistan.

US officials asserted that the freeze in security assistance to Pakistan on Donald Trump's direction since January 2018 is still in place and the latest decision would help it in 24x7 end-use monitoring of the F-16 fighter jets in that country as this would require the assignment of 60 contractor representatives there to assist in the oversight of the F-16 programme.

The point is...India knows the USA so well on how very UNRELIABLE US is when it comes to policies.
with support for f-16s or not India will blast the porki flying pigs when push comes to the shove like it did post Balakot.

 

[hit&run]

Still, it's the same as giving them the moral approval and logistical wherewithal to continue operating a functional fleet. This is what I be sayin. It's not just some random, off-the-book comments by Trump. It's a cold calculated policy modulation that we are seeing.

During the Kargil war, these guys kept up the spare part supply to a calculated degree up to a point till they wanted the war to escalate. The moment their desired pressure point was achieved (i.e Vajpayee felt pressured to request a parlay with Clinton), they stopped the spare supplies to reel Pakistan back. Then they planted stories about how Pakistan was planning a nuclear attack on India and how peace-lover Clinton saved everyone from disaster. These motherfuckers are the ones who provide the logistics to hurt India in the first place, then control both sides like a puppet.

It's like a psychopath drilling a hole in our body and minutely controlling the trigger to modulate how deep the hole should be. Focus on the drilling person instead of the drilling machine. The drilling machine can be broken anytime, we need to cut the hand that controls it.

@hit&run It was the US who encouraged the formation of a task-force which made a tri-lateral forum for Turkey, Pakistan and USA in Afghanistan (so they could channelize NATO weapons via Turkey and maintain deniability, in case India tries to corner the US). So America thinks Turkey is a stakeholder in Afghanistan but India is not a stakeholder despite it being our backyard? this fag Trump had previously deliberately tried to downplay India's aid to Afghanistan. These are not slips-of-tongue due to a lack of briefing, these are Freudian slips. This fat pig is actually revealing what the deep state actually thinks.

Here's Doval saying the same, he is Dhoti-shivering too?

We have been debating better things here at DFI and at world Affairs Forum than what this Sarkari Babbu Ajit Doval is uttering.

I see it as a sign of your fatigue using 'appeal to authority' fallacy quoting Brahma Chellani and Doval to prove a point.

USA picks Turkey as a mediator in Afghanistan and why India is not picked is a statement coming out of some unfounded privilege and poor reading of the Map.

Afghanistan is not the backyard of India.

Pakistan can any time of the day push Turkey's name and Turkey will run on its heals to support Pakistan for its Afghanistan sensitivities. On Top of that, it is a Muslim country.

The alliances that are forged above Transactional relationships are forged by the blood. The privileges India expects without spilling its blood is not only laughable but is a strategic blunder in making.

I have been barking for many years that India must commit military resources and military interventions in Afghanistan to check Pakistan and its Monkey manoeuvring where he runs everywhere and is more dynamic in approach to counter apprehensive India's influence.

India has Pakistan in a monkey trap in Kashmir and now it has started to wear off. We need another trap either in Balouchistan or in Afghanistan.

TBH Pakistanis have been quite successful with their propaganda to keep Indian military intervention in Afghanistan away. On top of that IPKF syndrome has gone beyond its limit and has made Indians a sitting duck power.

 

[hit&run]

The point is...India knows the USA so well on how very UNRELIABLE US is when it comes to policies.
with support for f-16s or not India will blast the porki flying pigs when push comes to the shove like it did post Balakot.

Of course, we won major wars when they were sleeping in the same bed. I come from a city that forged ammunition that fucked their Patton Tanks (RK Tools).

Like I said before we can not waste our time finding the problem elsewhere but in Kashmir and Pakistan.

It will take one leader like Ashoka who takes all the blame and parishes to fix these fanatic wolves. Modi is not the one, I think.

 

[Haldiram]

We have been debating better things here at DFI and world Affairs Forum than what this Sarkari Babbu Ajit Doval is uttering.

I see it as a sign of your fatigue using 'appeal to authority' fallacy quoting Brahma Chellani and Doval to prove your point.

USA picks Turkey as a mediator in Afghanistan and why India is not picked is a statement coming out of some unfounded privilege and poor reading of the Map.

Afghanistan is not the backyard of India.

Pakistan can any time of the day push Turkey's name and Turkey will run on its heals to support Pakistan for its Afghanistan sensitivities. On Top of that, it is a Muslim country.

The alliances that are forged above Transactional relationships are forged by the blood. The privileges India expects without spilling its blood is not only laughable but is a strategic blunder in making.

Its I have been barking for many years that India must commit military resources and military interventions in Afghanistan to check Pakistan and its Monkey manoeuvring where he runs everywhere and is more dynamic in approach to counter apprehensive India's influence.

India has Pakistan in a monkey trap in Kashmir and now it has started to wear off. We need another trap either in Balouchistan of in Afghanistan.

TBH Pakistanis have been quite successful with their propaganda to keep Indian military intervention in Afghanistan away. On top of that IPKF syndrome has gone beyond its limit and has made Indians a sitting duck power.

The NSA's position is the foremost authority on security. Quoting him becomes an appeal to authority now?

What's Dhoti-shivering about people wanting to impose costs on the US for transgressing Indian red lines? Quite the opposite. You're going too far to absolve the US. First of all, they have no business being so far away from their own mainland and meddling in Afghanistan and you think the US is right to consider Afghanistan as its backyard and meddle there but somehow India shouldn't?

Allah bless us. Murica gon get a bloody nose. This ain't Kargil era where someone can cross our red-lines and just walk away. They've crossed a line this time. Claiming that this was a result of incomplete briefing is stretching it too far to absolve them. India will throw a tantrum, wait and see.

These assholes have killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan and now want India to put boots on the ground so that they could fudge the death toll and destruction and put the blame of their own doing on India. Every time a documentary shows a fallen building, the red necks will say "that's not us..the Indian Army did it after their 2019 deployment". They've ruined a nation for their own cold war interests, let them rebuild it, or accept failure and COMPLETELY exit it. India will NOT have any partnership with them and take their moral burden.

We are an independent country, we will operate there independently. It's this refusal to tow the American line that frustrates the red necks, so they keep poking India by giving weapons to Pakistan to kill Indians and trying to undermine Indian activity in Afghanistan. It's alright, they can find a partner in Pakistan, but let them not complain if there is a terror attack in India and the Indian administration then decides to destroy all their F16s in a Pakistani hangar or a bunch of American soldiers get blown up in Afghanistan by Taliban. We're on our own, and they're on their own too. They can ask Turkey for help. They want to threaten India with terrorism and then coerce our co-operation. Ain't happening. If a bomb can go off in Mumbai, it could go off in Times Square too. Two can play this game.

They had tried to be dismissive of India previously too, and got promptly shut down by India.

India responds to Donald Trump’s jibe at PM Modi for funding library in Afghanistan

 

[Vijyes]

I have been barking for many years that India must commit military resources and military interventions in Afghanistan to check Pakistan and its Monkey manoeuvring where he runs everywhere and is more dynamic in approach to counter apprehensive India's influence.

You were speaking very correctly till this line. You were correctly explaining that Turkey is Muslim country and hence can mediate in Afghanistan and so on. But not suddenly you all India to commit military to Afghanistan? Why should India commit to Afghanistan? How can India supply logistics there? Pakistan will not allow Indian goods to pass its land. Iran too will not allow that. USA has power brokers in Arab region who control Taliban. India has none. Do India can get 0 cooperation in Afghanistan. So, how can India even sustain the war efforts?

India has Pakistan in a monkey trap in Kashmir and now it has started to wear off. We need another trap either in Balouchistan or in Afghanistan.

Kashmir is indian territory and India can threaten to destroy Pakistan by bombing. But can India threaten Pakistan for meddling in Afghanistan? Isn't there limits to what Pakistan will agree without a war and what it won't?

 

[hit&run]

The NSA's position is the foremost authority on security. Quoting him becomes an appeal to authority now?

What's Dhoti-shivering about people wanting to impose costs on the US for transgressing Indian red lines? Quite the opposite. You're going too far to absolve the US. First of all, they have no business being so far away from their own mainland and meddling in Afghanistan and you think the US is right to consider Afghanistan as its backyard and meddle there but somehow India shouldn't?

Allah bless us. Murica gon get a bloody nose. This ain't Kargil era where someone can cross our red-lines and just walk away. They've crossed a line this time. Claiming that this was a result of incomplete briefing is stretching it too far to absolve them. India will throw a tantrum, wait and see.

These assholes have killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan and now want India to put boots on the ground so that they could fudge the death toll and destruction and put the blame of their own doing on India. Every time a documentary shows a fallen building, the red necks will say "that's not us..the Indian Army did it after their 2019 deployment". They've ruined a nation for their own cold war interests, let them rebuild it, or accept failure and COMPLETELY exit it. India will NOT have any partnership with them and take their moral burden.

We are an independent country, we will operate there independently. It's this refusal to tow the American line that frustrates the red necks, so they keep poking India by giving weapons to Pakistan to kill Indians and trying to undermine Indian activity in Afghanistan. It's alright, they can find a partner in Pakistan, but let them not complain if there is a terror attack in India and the Indian administration then decides to destroy all their F16s in a Pakistani hangar or a bunch of American soldiers get blown up in Afghanistan by Taliban. We're on our own, and they're on their own too. They can ask Turkey for help. They want to threaten India with terrorism and then coerce our co-operation. Ain't happening. If a bomb can go off in Mumbai, it could go off in Times Square too. Two can play this game.

They had tried to be dismissive of India previously too, and got promptly shut down by India.

India responds to Donald Trump’s jibe at PM Modi for funding library in Afghanistan

LOL! If Doval is such superman that you hide behind him then he should have also foreseen this Trump utterance and avoided this so-called set back that half of the kids on DFI are mourning about.

Is It a statement of helplessness when you say American has no business in this region. LoL, I don't know whether you are complaining or cursing Americans like a thin-skinned cry baby. Can we talk about things which on hand?

What you and "the people" are wanting to impose on USA? Remove barricades from outside their embassy in New Delhi? LOL

No India is not an independent country. India is dependent on many nations to work its way around and manage its enemies.

I don't know which red lines you are talking about. The Indian response that you are exaggerating is subtle statement of fact, not rebuke addressed at USA and PM Modi has not even found it worth responding. He may have if there were elections; I mean to say that one must learn to qualify responses than taking them literally like a simpleton.

There is no activity India is doing in Afghanistan that can undermine India. India will pack its bags and move out once the Taliban becomes part of the power structure with the backing of Pakistan.

Your remaining last para is too vague and emotional for me to respond. You remind of another poster who wanted India to instigate riots in USA to avenge something which I forgot. You want to bomb NY in a response to Pakistani act of terrorism in India because the USA is now friendlier with it is nothing but a preposterous rant.

 

[AnantS]

@Haldiram boy has seen the light! Glad not all are from "Bolo Jai Trump Jai Modi Nahin tum Saare Saale Paaki". This is what I was saying - its same bloody pattern that repeats everytime in India America Paki relations.

I am reading Unending Game. It seems its Deep State's deep interest in having utopian Hydrocarbon pipeline between Afg and Pakistan. And it clearly explains - due to revolving door policy - come what may be it Democrats or Republicans, Deep State ensures they get those bureaucrats as policy(envisaged by Deepstate) continua-tors. India does not figure in their calculations Which is both good and bad thing. Good because - they are no thinking middle east or East Europe kind of deep meddling. Bad - because relationship with India is expendable.

And the difference between him and me is - I am bit worried - Right now even though US and Russia are not talking to each other - But they are aligned wrt Pakistan role in Afghanistan and wrt Kasmir.

 

[hit&run]

You were speaking very correctly till this line. You were correctly explaining that Turkey is Muslim country and hence can mediate in Afghanistan and so on. But not suddenly you all India to commit military to Afghanistan? Why should India commit to Afghanistan? How can India supply logistics there? Pakistan will not allow Indian goods to pass its land. Iran too will not allow that. USA has power brokers in Arab region who control Taliban. India has none. Do India can get 0 cooperation in Afghanistan. So, how can India even sustain the war efforts?

Kashmir is indian territory and India can threaten to destroy Pakistan by bombing. But can India threaten Pakistan for meddling in Afghanistan? Isn't there limits to what Pakistan will agree without a war and what it won't?

You are not the first one who has opposed my line of thinking. I have no problem with people who do not want to get involved militarily in Afghanistan. In one of my post, I even detailed what kind of missions we can envision in AF. Few good posters even in this thread or have recently talked about interventions using IAF and small scale defensive offensive presence.

As far as what kind of meddling India can do is dependent on Afghan Government. So far what I have read and all the visits by Afghan president they are quite desperate for military resources and most likely Indian military presence. Main Logistics are Food, Toilets and shelters, which we need every day. The military hardware can be airlifted for tailor-made operations and objectives and for that we have the massive capability; not less than the top 5 on this planet. Operating with the support of the Afghanistan Government I see no problem whatsoever. And our presence is only going to strengthen the writ of AF government.

Post Pulwama I wanted Modi to unleash massive crackdown in Kashmir and wipe down everyone in south Kashmir of certain age group. He ended up doing Balakot which resulted in Pakistan response that was never retaliated till today. So what you are saying about bombing Pakistan in one of the main options we must try but that is not happening for some unknown reasons. The spillover after that skirmish was nothing but an eye-opener.

Many posters on this forum had meltdowns of their lifetime with the capture of just one Pilot. These kids want to bomb Pakistan but don't want KIAs. These posters though are countering Pakistani propaganda but the exposure to the same poison they are negating is visible on their thinking. We are doing what Pakistanis do not want us to do.

My conclusion is that we need more military-backed avenues to unsettle Pakistan and keep the offences on at IB and LOC on.

 

[Vijyes]

You are not the first one who has opposed my line of thinking. I have no problem with people who do not want to get involved militarily in Afghanistan. In one of my post, I even detailed what kind of missions we can envision in AF. Few good posters even in this thread or have recently talked about interventions using IAF and small scale defensive offensive presence.

As far as what kind of meddling India can do is dependent on Afghan Government. So far what I have read and all the visits by Afghan president they are quite desperate for military resources and most likely Indian military presence. Main Logistics are Food, Toilets and shelters, which we need every day. The military hardware can be airlifted for tailor-made operations and objectives and for that we have the massive capability; not less than the top 5 on this planet. Operating with the support of the Afghanistan Government I see no problem whatsoever. And our presence is only going to strengthen the writ of AF government.

Post Pulwama I wanted Modi to unleash massive crackdown in Kashmir and wipe down everyone in south Kashmir of certain age group. He ended up doing Balakot which resulted in Pakistan response that was never retaliated till today. So what you are saying about bombing Pakistan in one of the main options we must try but that is not happening for some unknown reasons. The spillover after that skirmish was nothing but an eye-opener.

Many posters on this forum had meltdowns of their lifetime with the capture of just one Pilot. These kids want to bomb Pakistan but don't want KIAs. These posters though are countering Pakistani propaganda but the exposure to the same poison they are negating is visible on their thinking. We are doing what Pakistanis do not want us to do.

My conclusion is that we need more military-backed avenues to unsettle Pakistan and keep the offences on at IB and LOC on.

Afghanistan government itself is propped up by USA. Otherwise, 90% Afghans want Taliban back.

India can indulge in various operations in Afghanistan but can never act against Pakistan or make it useful for India. India will only end up giving things without getting anything back. There is simply no way, india can get proper alliance with Islam and its followers. So, the core interests of Islam can never be compromised by Afghans. This in turn will mean that Indian core interests can't be served.

 

[hit&run]

Afghanistan government itself is propped up by USA. Otherwise, 90% Afghans want Taliban back.

India can indulge in various operations in Afghanistan but can never act against Pakistan or make it useful for India. India will only end up giving things without getting anything back. There is simply no way, india can get proper alliance with Islam and its followers. So, the core interests of Islam can never be compromised by Afghans. This in turn will mean that Indian core interests can't be served.

Why India is spending 2 billion in Afghanistan. What India is getting making Libraries for them?

 

[bhavesh100]

The NSA's position is the foremost authority on security. Quoting him becomes an appeal to authority now?

What's Dhoti-shivering about people wanting to impose costs on the US for transgressing Indian red lines? Quite the opposite. You're going too far to absolve the US. First of all, they have no business being so far away from their own mainland and meddling in Afghanistan and you think the US is right to consider Afghanistan as its backyard and meddle there but somehow India shouldn't?

Allah bless us. Murica gon get a bloody nose. This ain't Kargil era where someone can cross our red-lines and just walk away. They've crossed a line this time. Claiming that this was a result of incomplete briefing is stretching it too far to absolve them. India will throw a tantrum, wait and see.

These assholes have killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan and now want India to put boots on the ground so that they could fudge the death toll and destruction and put the blame of their own doing on India. Every time a documentary shows a fallen building, the red necks will say "that's not us..the Indian Army did it after their 2019 deployment". They've ruined a nation for their own cold war interests, let them rebuild it, or accept failure and COMPLETELY exit it. India will NOT have any partnership with them and take their moral burden.

We are an independent country, we will operate there independently. It's this refusal to tow the American line that frustrates the red necks, so they keep poking India by giving weapons to Pakistan to kill Indians and trying to undermine Indian activity in Afghanistan. It's alright, they can find a partner in Pakistan, but let them not complain if there is a terror attack in India and the Indian administration then decides to destroy all their F16s in a Pakistani hangar or a bunch of American soldiers get blown up in Afghanistan by Taliban. We're on our own, and they're on their own too. They can ask Turkey for help. They want to threaten India with terrorism and then coerce our co-operation. Ain't happening. If a bomb can go off in Mumbai, it could go off in Times Square too. Two can play this game.

They had tried to be dismissive of India previously too, and got promptly shut down by India.

India responds to Donald Trump’s jibe at PM Modi for funding library in Afghanistan

Article in world politics review. Let us hold the breath. Wait and see attitude is wise one.
Michael Kugelman Friday, July 26, 2019
Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan enjoyed a warm visit to Washington this week, with his hosts, from President Donald Trump to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Sen. Lindsey Graham, all affirming the importance in particular of cooperation between the U.S. and Pakistan in Afghanistan. For a Pakistani government that viewed Khan’s visit as an opportunity to reset a relationship that suffered immensely during the early months of the Trump administration, it was an encouraging sign.

The bilateral relationship has indeed come a long way since 2017 and 2018, when Trump threatened a harder line on Pakistan, tweeted angrily about Islamabad’s “lies and deceit,” and suspended American security assistance. The main reason for this about-face is rooted in Trump’s increasingly urgent desire to end the long war in Afghanistan—a war he often criticized before becoming president and has never seemed comfortable continuing, even when he announced a new South Asia strategy in August 2017 that entailed staying the course. ...

 

[bhavesh100]

Michael Kugelman Friday, July 26, 2019
Author thinks that ties will not be reset.

 

[ezsasa]

@Haldiram boy has seen the light! Glad not all are from "Bolo Jai Trump Jai Modi Nahin tum Saare Saale Paaki". This is what I was saying - its same bloody pattern that repeats everytime in India America Paki relations.

I am reading Unending Game. It seems its Deep State's deep interest in having utopian Hydrocarbon pipeline between Afg and Pakistan. And it clearly explains - due to revolving door policy - come what may be it Democrats or Republicans, Deep State ensures they get those bureaucrats as policy(envisaged by Deepstate) continua-tors. India does not figure in their calculations Which is both good and bad thing. Good because - they are no thinking middle east or East Europe kind of deep meddling. Bad - because relationship with India is expendable.

And the difference between him and me is - I am bit worried - Right now even though US and Russia are not talking to each other - But they are aligned wrt Pakistan role in Afghanistan and wrt Kasmir.

True cent %....................
America’s immediate concern is trade deficit with us, every thing else is bunkum.

Only thing good about Indo-US relationship is their timely delivery of military equipment.

 

[Vijyes]

Why India is spending 2 billion in Afghanistan. What India is getting making Libraries for them?

India is using Afghanistan as a cheap source of proxy warfare. Indian aid to Afghanistan ia measly and only worth few hundred million dollars a year. We can afford that much to trouble Pakistan. But if we have to spend much more Resources and lose lot of people, it will not be worth the price. Afghanistan is good as long as it is cheap. Increasing cost will make it unattractive

 

[ezsasa]

Michael Kugelman Friday, July 26, 2019
Author thinks that ties will not be reset.

We will know only after a year or two... in the mean time pakis already got 1.3 billion from the U.S.

 

[mayfair]

Michael Kugelman is a Paki lapdog. Nor does he have any meaningful clout in DC. Reading the garbage he writes is a waste of time.

I would go out on a limb and say that unlike the hysteria shown on these forums and in some parts of Indian media, GoI is going about this in a manner not dissimilar to what many other countries that have had the misfortune to deal with Trump and his ilk are doing- The Japanese, The Chinese, The Germans, The French, The Australians, The Canadians. Of course Trudeau tried to match the hysteria and got his arse handed to him so he's back to the default Canadian position.

We stated our position on the floor of the parliament, which is the apex constitutional body in India and is now on record for perpetuity. Basically, we have called out Trump as a liar, without explicitly saying it so. Now his staff have little choice but to stand up for the honour of an absolutely dishonourable man.

Do note that Trump DID NOT announce a resumption of CSF or aid to Pakistan. He specifically spoke and acted on two issues that he and probably his advisors suggested would irk India the most and "show us our place" for defying the US on S-400 among other things- Kashmir mediation and resumption of maintenance support for F-16s.

Trump and some in his team feel that these would press all our buttons and get us to do their bidding. I am not sure how many of you have been following the recent drama in Japan-SoKo relations, but US and Trump have been "offering" their "good offices" to "mediate" on the politico-economic dispute between "two very close American allies". While SoKo is eagerly up for it, Japan has privately told Trump to take a hike. Something that we did PUBLICALLY.

As far as Indo-US relations are concerned, frankly I am baffled that some posters here were really taken in by all the propaganda and flowery proses and gushing from the pro-Amreeki dallas. As Sourav Jha pointed out, despite the grandiose statements, there's been very little convergence between our policies and interests and it shall remain even more so in the wake of Orang-utan's foot-in-the-mouth syndrome.

 

[ezsasa]

Afghans&even US requested it many times.

Still i didn't understand Why/How GOI leave the golden opportunity of our Boots(IA) on Afghan soil. With IA in eastern,northern &western border of pak it is nightmarish situation for our real enemy (porki army) everyday.

No strategy, no pro-active approach nothing always 'chalta hai' attitude even in high levels.... Dumb Indians.

Why are you calling yourself dumb? He he !!!