The Syrian Crisis

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There is no place in the world in the 21st century for people like Assad as leaders of a nation. I expect the Islamist to take power but sooner or later the people will realize that religon does not work as the main way to run a nation and their will be more changes.
 

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There is no place in the world in the 21st century for people like Assad as leaders of a nation. I expect the Islamist to take power but sooner or later the people will realize that religon does not work as the main way to run a nation and their will be more changes.
When will you condemn and ask the saudis and bahrain monarchs to step down ?
 

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When will you condemn and ask the saudis and bahrain monarchs to step down ?
I think an acknowledgement of the mistake the US made by supporting Osama is long overdue by the US government to its citizens, especially the friends and families of those innocent men and women killed in 9/11 attacks.


It would be an embarrassment for the US government if they acknowledged that CIA was allied to a bunch of terrorists.
 

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I saw a news in local channel about a chopper that has fallen from the sky in Syria airspace... news channel says the video was originally uploaded first in a networking site, expecting more information.
 

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Video: Syrian rebels down another helicopter gunship outside Damascus

Taken on Oct. 5, the following video shows another Mil Mi-8 Hip being hit by artillery fire during a medium altitude sortie near Damascus.
[video=youtube_share;QdItymwxjjo]http://youtu.be/QdItymwxjjo[/video]

Here's another version of the same downing.

[video=youtube_share;PzOqnfetecU]http://youtu.be/PzOqnfetecU[/video]
 

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^^ ^^
It was all going well,And then they started shouting "Allah hu Akbar" :lol:
 

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Damascus bombings carried out by regime

 
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There is no place in the world in the 21st century for people like Assad as leaders of a nation. I expect the Islamist to take power but sooner or later the people will realize that religon does not work as the main way to run a nation and their will be more changes.
What is working in the terrorist funding state of Saudi Arabia is religion and nothing else? If your leadership can only stop this double standard and leave those countries on their own that will be end of this terrorism in the world.
 

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What is working in the terrorist funding state of Saudi Arabia is religion and nothing else? If your leadership can only stop this double standard and leave those countries on their own that will be end of this terrorism in the world.
Only if life was just that simple. Terrorism is not going to end in your life time or your childrens or grandchildrens life time, what you are seeing is failing religion, culture value system in agony and conflict with the modern world, gnawing at its own entrails and snapping at any one that gets near.
 

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Only if life was just that simple. Terrorism is not going to end in your life time or your childrens or grandchildrens life time, what you are seeing is failing religion, culture value system in agony and conflict with the modern world, gnawing at its own entrails and snapping at any one that gets near.
Yet you are allied with them

:rofl:
 

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Even if what you say about terrorists (you are speaking about FSA, I assume) is true, and it most likely is, your conclusion that NATO is trying to bait Syria does not necessarily follow from the recent exchange of artillery fire across the border between Syria and Turkey.

Edit: Although, SajeevJino's post above begs the question, what does NATO do if Turkey sends troops into Syria?
Nato: Plans ready to defend Turkey | News24


Nato is ready to defend alliance member Turkey amid artillery and mortar exchanges with Syria, its top official said on Tuesday, as Ankara sent additional fighter jets to reinforce an air base close to the Syria border where tensions have escalated dramatically over the past week.

Turkey and Syria have exchanged fire across their common border since errant Syrian shells killed five Turkish civilians last week, sparking fears of a wider regional crisis.

The comments by Nato Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen were the strongest show of support to Ankara since the firing began on Wednesday - though the solidarity is largely symbolic.

Turkey has sought Nato backing but not direct intervention and the alliance is thought to be reluctant to get involved military at a time when its main priority is the war in Afghanistan.
 

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Turkey sends 25 F-16 fighter jets close to the Syrian border

As Syria and Turkey exchange fire for theseventh straight day, Ankara hasannounced up to 25 F-16 fighter jets weremoved closer to the border, at Diyarbakirairbase

The aircraft represent the mannedcomponent of the reinforced Turkish airdefense system in the region thatincludes both Hawk and Stinger anti-aircraft units that have already been puton heightened alert status for months.

The multi-role planes, that can be used toboth launch air strikes and intercept anySyrian aircraft getting a bit too close tothe border , have joined two local-basedsquadrons of F-16C/D Block 40s ( 181 and182 Filo) as well as F-4 Phantom jets(similar to the reconnaissance one shotdown inside the Syrian airspace on Jun.22) already deployed there and involvedin previous retaliation attacks.In fact, according to some Turkish mediaoutlets, the F-4s from Diyarbakir wereused to designate ground targets beyondthe border that had been detectedthrough AN/TPQ-36 mobile land radars.Rounds were then fired by Firtinahowitzers targeting artillery units in TelAbyad.

The Firtina is capable to maneuver on allsorts of land, making six shots in oneminute at a distance up to 40 kilometers,and then move quite fast, to reduce therisk of being subjected to enemy fire.

Turkey sends 25 F-16 fighter jets close to the Syrian border � The Aviationist
 
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Turkish Air Force F-16s fighter planes force Syrian civilian plane to land at Ankara airport for investigation

Syrian Air Flight 442 (RB442), an Airbus A320 registered YK-AKE suspected of
carrying weapons from Moscow to
Damascus was forced to land at Ankara
EsenboÄŸa Airport on Oct. 10, 2012.
The civil liner, with 35 passengers on
board, was intercepted by the Turkish Air
Force F-16 fighter jets as it entered the
eastern part of the Turkish airspace and it
is currently being inspected.

25 Turkish F-16s were moved to
Diyarbakir airbase on Monday following
the border crisis with Syria .
Noteworthy, the flight from Moscow can
be tracked until it reached Ukraina using
ADS-B .

Turkish planes have been banned from
flying in the Syrian airspace: flights
carrying pilgrims to Jeddah landed in
Adana, due to the closure of Syria's
airspace.

Turkish Air Force F-16s fighter planes force Syrian civilian plane to land at Ankara airport for investigation « The Aviationist
 

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I think the response from Turkey has been somewhat muted. Their citizens are dying and the most they are willing to do is launch a few mortars and stop a plane. The Turkish Army could end this in two weeks if Erdogan had any balls. It is clear AKP supports the rebellion, so support the rebellion!
 

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Turkey says Syrian plane carried Russian munitions

- Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said onThursday a Syrian passenger
plane forced to land in Ankara was carrying Russian-made munitions destined for Syria's
armed forces, ratcheting up tension with his country's war-torn neighbor.
Damascus said the plane had been
carrying legitimate cargo and described
Turkey's actions as an act of "air piracy",
while Moscow accused Ankara of
endangering the lives of Russian
passengers when it intercepted the jet
late on Wednesday.

The grounding of the plane was another
sign of Ankara's growing assertiveness
towards the crisis in Syria . Turkey's chief
of staff warned on Wednesday the
military would use greater force if Syrian
shells continued to land in Turkey.
"This was munitions from the Russian
equivalent of our Mechanical and
Chemical Industry Corporation being sent
to the Syrian Defence Ministry," Erdogan
told a news conference

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A spokeswoman for Moscow's Vnukovo
airport told state news agency Itar-Tass
everything put on the plane had cleared
customs and security checks and no
prohibited items were on board.

Asked about Erdogan's statement, the
Russian Foreign Ministry referred to her
remarks and declined further comment.
Russia's arms export agency said it had no
cargo on the flight, and the Interfax news
agency quoted a Russian diplomat as
saying the cargo seized by Turkey was
not of Russian origin.


Syrian Arab Airlines chief Ghaida Abdulatif
said in Damascus the plane had been
carrying civilian electrical equipment.
Turkey has become one of Syrian
President Bashar al-Assad's harshest
critics during a 19-month-old uprising that
has killed some 30,000 people, providing
sanctuary for rebel officers and pushing
for a foreign-protected safe zone inside
Syria.

Russia has stood behind Assad and an
arms industry source said Moscow had
not stopped its weapons exports to
Damascus.

Military jets escorted the Airbus A-320,
carrying around 30 passengers, into
Ankara airport after Turkey received an
intelligence tip-off. The Turkish foreign
ministry said the plane had been given a
chance to turn back towards Russia while
still over the Black Sea, but the pilot
chose not to do so.


"This hostile and deplorable Turkish act is
an additional indication of the hostile
policy of Erdogan's government," Syria's
foreign ministry said in a statement,
accusing Ankara of "harboring terrorists"
and allowing them to infiltrate Syria.
The Syrian conflict threatens to suck in
neighboring states and exposes the deep
Sunni-Shi'ite rift in the Middle East.

Two Sunni Islamist rebel groups said late
on Thursday they had detonated bombs in
a state security compound in central
Damascus. Lebanon's Shi'ite Hezbollah
group - which, like Syria's rulers, is allied
with Shi'ite Iran - meanwhile denied
sending fighters to aid Assad.


Turkey says Syrian plane carried Russian munitions | Reuters
 

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