That is reality. Sikhs in the West continue to progress and integrate into their adopted countries.
That is right.
How many are matching your historical figures to join the Army of their adopted countries?
And why should they?
There are better opportunities to be had to toil with their hands than jungle bashing. Check the farmers of California. Could they not join the US Army now that they are short of valiant people in Afghanistan if one went by your treatise of history?
You're the one placing fourth Birmingham riots when the talk of British Sikhs comes up, and I'm the one turning things communal? Truth is, you try hard to drive a wedge between Sikhs and their adopted countries. Otherwise, what explains you giving excuses as to why the Brits should not have a British Sikh Regiment?
What fourth Birmingham riot?
I am not going to wade the thread, but I think I have said Birmingham riot
s and IIRC given the years.
They are not excuses. They are from the horse's mouth - the British officers in informal discussions. And they should know more than you. Or are you the last word?
Oh, we have expanded from Pakistanis to Muslims now? The answer is very simple. Sikhs are an ethno-religious group with a long history of serving the British Army. The "Muslims" are not one ethno-religious group.
How Pathetic.
Clutching straws to save 'face'?
But when terrorist attacks take place, they are one ethno-religious group?
How convenient.
In Punjabi it is said
Ai bhi wah wah, tan bhi wah wah!
And how many Beharry's are/were there? Hundreds of Thousands of Sikhs have served as one unit under the banner, and have won countless Victoria Crosses. Sikhs have a military history. The Carribeans do not. That's a fact. And the Sikhs are themselves pushing fourth to serve in the British army, with Sikh Gurudwaras voluntarily becoming recruiting grounds for the British Army. Show me one example of Pakistanis, Muslims, Carribeans, or what have you may, coming fourth as one community to bring recruits to the army.
I would not know how many Beharries are there.
You are the self acclaimed expert who knows more than British Army officers.
You tell us!
Don't go by what people did in WWs.
That is history.
The same ethos and psyche does not hold good today and that is the reality.
Further, no personal opinion will do, no matter how jingoistic it maybe, Be a good lad and use links as I have done.
I have shown you with link how many Muslims are there in the British Army.
I think the figures in the British military is more important and speaks for itself than promises that you are tomtoming about.
The UPA govt has been promising ever since they have come to power that they will bring food inflation down. All one sees is that it is going up and up?
Pat Boone sang a song - Promises are meant to be broken IIRC.
The world promise huge sums of money for Afghanistan,
They are still coming.
As the Americans say - put your money where your mouth is.
Sikhs are contributing all over the world, but let us not go overboard!
I've interacted with my share of war veterans and they would disagree with you. I guess we all like to stay in the company of folks who share our opinions.
You may have interacted with anyone and I do not doubt that, but I would rather go by what British officers have said. It is after all their army and their Nation.
Another utopia of yours -
I guess we all like to stay in the company of folks who share our opinions.
Please let me know which is this country where all share one opinion.
Even in China that has not been possible, even though they share your view that all should have ONE opinion and that opinion as YOURS/ the Party that is ruling!