The Greatest Kings in Indian History

[LurkerBaba]

Dravidstan emerged from anti-brahminism

Dravidstan emerged from an engineered racial and cultural hatred of everything that is north of AP and Karantaka. Good thing is that no one gave a crap to it

Periyar E. V. Ramasamy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Periyar also stated that if words of North Indian origin (Sanskrit) are removed from Telugu, Kannada, and Malayalam, only Tamil will be left
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Periyar believed that Tamil language will make the Dravidian people unite under the banner of Tamil culture, and that it will make the Kannadigas, Andhras and the Malayalees be vigilant. With regards to a Dravidian alliance under a common umbrella language, Periyar stated that "a time will come for unity. This will go on till there is an end to the North Indian domination. We shall reclaim an independent sovereign state for us"

 

[civfanatic]

Nope that was periyars argument .All ayyers and ayyengars were aryans acc to him

What bullshit. Brahmanism is a social ideology and not a racial one. Scientific studies have shown that there are profound racial differences between North and South Indians. Aryan Invasion Theory was just invented by Britishers to justify colonialism. During the Victorian Era all great civilizations were considered to be either direct Aryan descendants (like Rome, Greece, Persia) or Aryan colonies (India, China, and even Incas!).

Even the term "Aryan" is not a racial but social term. Arya means "noble", isn't it? Even Dravidian kings called themselves Aryas.

 

[Rahul M]

even ravan is called an arya in ramayan. so much for that aryan dravidian race BS.

 

[LurkerBaba]

Here is the "Dravidian" Chola using an "Aryan" script in their coinage

File:Rajendra coin.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From Wiki:

Caldwell coined the term "Dravidian" from the Sanskrit drāvida, which was used in an 8th-century text to refer to South India by Adi Shankara

So Periyar should have stopped using the term "Dravidian" since it came from Sanskrit

 

[Iamanidiot]

groan everyone forgot something called the self-respect movement he started in 1925.Anti-brahminism culminated into dravidian mouement

 

[Iamanidiot]

What bullshit. Brahmanism is a social ideology and not a racial one. Scientific studies have shown that there are profound racial differences between North and South Indians. Aryan Invasion Theory was just invented by Britishers to justify colonialism. During the Victorian Era all great civilizations were considered to be either direct Aryan descendants (like Rome, Greece, Persia) or Aryan colonies (India, China, and even Incas!).

Even the term "Aryan" is not a racial but social term. Arya means "noble", isn't it? Even Dravidian kings called themselves Aryas.

Sell that argument to Periyar he considered ayyars and ayyangars to be aryans

 

[Param]

Here is the "Dravidian" Chola using an "Aryan" script in their coinage

File:Rajendra coin.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From Wiki:






So Periyar should have stopped using the term "Dravidian" since it came from Sanskrit

what's the big deal? they were staunch Shaivites and followed Brahminical faith. Brahmins were held in high esteem by the emperor and maybe they gave importance to Sanskrit and Tamil.
Btw most copper pates and stone inscriptions are in Tamil.

 

[Rahul M]

here is 'dravidian' king uttam chola using another 'aryan' script, this time one still used today for writing bengali.

 

[Iamanidiot]

only for periyar. Ambedkar did not call for a separate land or for violence against brahmins.

he didn't call for a separate mahar-desh or go running to the british masters with a begging bowl in hand like jinnah or periyar did.

No he asked for separate communal electorates .so ambedkar was not pro british rotflamo!

 

[Rahul M]

what's the big deal? they were staunch Shaivites and followed Brahminical faith. Brahmins were held in high esteem by the emperor and maybe they gave importance to Sanskrit and Tamil.
Btw most copper pates and stone inscriptions are in Tamil.

how come such evil brahminical kings are held in high esteem by dravidian chauvinists ?

 

[Iamanidiot]

brahmins screwed the chola empire so is the line of thought in TN

 

[Iamanidiot]

how come such evil brahminical kings are held in high esteem by dravidian chauvinists ?

Cholas are fish folk I think not brahmin.

 

[Rahul M]

ah, so it's all those pesky brahmins fault, just like it was always the jews fault that germany lost WW1 and it is always the yahudi's fault in pakistan.
otherwise the great cholan 3rd reich would have lasted upto eternity. how so very nazi-like.

p.s. please don't think I am mocking the cholans, I find them fascinating and am proud of them. I just can't stand narrow minded bigots.

Cholas are fish folk I think not brahmin.

brahminical means one who follows those concepts, not one who is brahmin himself.

 

[LurkerBaba]

Cholas are fish folk I think not brahmin.

They promoted Brahminical culture and had Hinduism as the state religion.

PS: any sources for the fish folk origin ?

 

[Phenom]

Some of the famous Chola Kings were Thevars, they are the warrior caste from TN.

 

[Rahul M]

the fish was one of their royal symbols. funny thing is the same people won't concede that the mayur symbol meant the same thing for chandragupta. talk of hypocrisy !

 

[Phenom]

^^ The fish symbol belogns to the Pandyas, Chola symbol was a Tiger

 

[Iamanidiot]

ah, so it's all those pesky brahmins fault, just like it was always the jews fault that germany lost WW1 and it is always the yahudi's fault in pakistan.
otherwise the great cholan 3rd reich would have lasted upto eternity. how so very nazi-like.

p.s. please don't think I am mocking the cholans, I find them fascinating and am proud of them. I just can't stand narrow minded bigots.
brahminical means one who follows those concepts, not one who is brahmin himself.

sadly the brahminical ideology screwed india for 3 millenia sad bv true and esp the individuals who propagated it.It reflects in Indian politics

 

[Rahul M]

^^ The fish symbol belogns to the Pandyas, Chola symbol was a Tiger

err, no. both symbols were used by the cholas. including in the example I posted.

 

[Param]

how come such evil brahminical kings are held in high esteem by dravidian chauvinists ?

Because even in those times the lower castes were pretty well off.The Cholas were not only staunch Hindus but they also gave importance to Tamil a lot.
Compared to the Pallava period the Chola period had much less casteism. And they were not Brahminical they were 100% Dravidians.That caste is still dominant in Tanjore.

Do you know that one of the reasons that Shaivism thrived under the Cholas was because there were lot of Non brahmin holymen and religious leaders? It was Vashnavism that was mostly popular among brahmins.

Besides it was not all rosy picture for the Brahmin community.Rahul you should watch the Kamal Hassan movie 'Dasavatharam'.There is a scene about a Chola king and what he did to a particular Brahmin sect.

I don't know why cal those preist class people as evil. You should stop that and give them more respect.

Btw,who are those "chauvinists"?