The best weapon to defend against a stealth jet is ground based SAM. Stealth jets are offensive weapons, not defensive. So, to attack the enemy, you need stealth jets but to defend territory, you need SAM
So far there is not a single SAM can lock a stealth plane from 50 km away. Russia claims her s-400 can do the job, but......
50km is too less. I would say 100km is the right distance, unless the stealth plane is in terrain hugging mode. S200, an old version of S400 even hit an Israeli F35, though it was said that F35 still managed to land in Israel with heavy damage. Israel later claimed that F35 hit storks during routine training
It is your right to believe this kind of BS. Last time, the S-200 fails to intercept Israel
S200 hitting F35 may have been coincidence. Also, since F35 was not destroyed, one can say that the hit was from a distance and not direct. Only a small fraction of the warhead hit F35 but even that was enough to ground it permanently
I think it is on hold like all Russian orders due to sanctions. The US is only granting waivers for legacy units already in service.
These are mostly made in HAL India with limited imports of radar, EW, IRST from Russia. I don't see these planes from being stopped by USA sanctions. India will not listen to USA to stop making Su30MKI in India and instead import plane from USA.
US sanctions rain on India-Russia defence parade
There will always be ways of bypassing the USA sanctions by using small banks like UCO bank which has very limited operation. Even if UCO bqnk gets sanctioned by USA, there won't be any effect. UCO was used to bypass iran sanctions last time.US sanctions rain on India-Russia defence parade
By Manu Pubby
Financial sanctions by the US have hit India’s arms trade with Russia hard, with payments for weapons and equipment worth over $2 billion stuck after banks refused to make remittances to Moscow fearing penal action.
With Russia’s flagship arms trading company Rosoboronexport coming under sanctions by the US Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) last month, almost the entire arms trade with India has come to a grinding halt after the State Bank of India put an immediate stop to all payments from April 7.
Consultations are on at the very top levels of the government to resolve the issue, given that critical arms acquisitions and ongoing programmes including submarine building and repairs, missiles and warships cannot move unless a route is found for the remittances.
US sanctions forbid any business ties with entities designated as Specially Designated Nationals (SDN). The penalty for violation could result in closure of all operations with American concerns. This has forced Indian banks to freeze all lines of credit (LoCs) to Russian arms companies.
Payments worth over $100 million have already been blocked in less than a month and the issue will impact trade of over $2 billion in the coming months if not resolved. An Indian public sector bank that was used for making such sensitive payments in the past is being roped in, sources said, but the recent tightening of norms by the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) following the Punjab National Bank fraud is coming in the way.
Discussions are on with the Russian side, including with its leading bank in India, , but a solution is yet to be found. Alternative arrangements are also being looked at, including feasibility of the creation of a specialised bank for defence-related payments.
Queries sent to the defence ministry and the State Bank of India were not answered as of press time.
Resolving the payments route is top priority, with the matter being taken up by top government officials, including the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO), sources said. The magnitude of the payments can be judged to be critical given the type of programmes that can get stuck.
For instance, the sanctions listing has hit payments to the tune of over $15 million to Russia that would have been used to repair the damaged INS Chakra nuclear submarine that met with an accident in late 2016. The Chakra, which was taken on lease from Russia, damaged its sonar dome and has been non-operational as specialised repairs have to be carried out. The Chakra is India’s only nuclearpowered attack submarine.
On a separate note, a decision has also been taken at the top level of government to request Washington for a waiver from the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) for a deal to purchase the advanced S 400 air defence system from Russia. The proposed $5.5-billion deal is critical for India, which is looking to plug gaps in its air defence network.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ussia-defence-parade/articleshow/64036673.cms
I don't see any evidence GoI is trying to bypass the sanctions. I do see them asking for waivers.
Bypassing could have serious repercussions, but as our foreign ministry have already said ... nothing compares against national interest, especially if it's a matter of national security. If they are sanctioning, we will surely find some other way.
except that no S200 hit F-35 whatsoever, it was nothing more than a hoax from a Middle East tabloid (Southfront.org)
It is a polite way of saying USA that India is not in a mood to oblige the sanctions. It is not exactly a request.
What repercussions? Do you understand that USA is not the allfather? Why should India bother about USA's unilateral sanctions? Is India a USA stooge?
And where did you get this brilliant piece of fiction? Meanwhile the real IAF F-35s are flying around Beirut in broad day light. Please refrain from posting 'Fake News'
Israel is suspected to have used stork hit as a cover story for S200 hitting its F35. Syrian minister also claimed that one F35 was hit by S200 and Israel was forced to retreat on the same day.
That's not correct, since having stealth features doesn't help to detect an enemy stealth fighter!
I beg differences here: Yes, the AWACS can help detect the stealth fighter from larger range and command your own fighter to achieve a optimal position (side or rear) for a surprise attack. However, what you suggest is a tactical solution, there are 2 issues here:
As similar to all conspiracy theory, always "suspect", "thought to", "could have" but there isn't any evidence whatsoever. Funny how they think Israel used the bird collision incident as a cover story, Yet in reality, if an F-35 was indeed hit and Israel wanted to keep it a secret, they wouldn't even release any information at all whatsoever. Nevermind that a F-35 hit by S-200 won't return to base, it will disintegrate, period
Except for southfront.org where the hoax originated from , all others source point out how out of touch this rumor is
https://theaviationist.com/2017/10/...lved-in-a-bird-strike-incident-gets-grounded/ literally said this
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/did-russian-missile-really-hit-israeli-f-35-22926v said
No there isn't. It is laughable, almost a child dream but far from reality. Like I said, this is nothing more than a hoax, basically, the same sh..t when they said S-300 battery was destroyed by F-35
Stork can be anywhere within 0-16000 ft, it is entirely possible for an aircraft to hit them. There isn't any indication about the altitude when the collision happened either, heck you don't even know what altitude or what sort of training mission they were flying, if they were flying BFM or deep penetration then a collision with some bird is nothing out of ordinary.
