Sukhoi PAK FA

[Neil]

 

[Anshu Attri]

 

[sayareakd]

this pic is confusing, can someone explain this.

 

[Payeng]

this pic is confusing, can someone explain this.

It is a speculate study of product time frame for Aircraft in production, with those stopped or will stop production before 2020 time frame with those which will continue to be marketed including those yet to be inducted.

 

[ace009]

Where's the PAK-FA? I can see the Flanker - but that is the Su-27 family - upto Su-35BM. The PAK-FA is a completely different airframe and should have a separate entry ...

The poster is not accurate, but does have a novel approach and is valuable as a first glance market situation ...

 

[Payeng]

Where's the PAK-FA? I can see the Flanker - but that is the Su-27 family - upto Su-35BM. The PAK-FA is a completely different airframe and should have a separate entry ...

The poster is not accurate, but does have a novel approach and is valuable as a first glance market situation ...

The red bar indicates PAK-FA time line.

 

[ace009]

Well, it should have a separate start point - the PAK-FA will not replace all flankers. For a long time PAK-FA will complement flankers and by the time most Flankers are replaced by the PAK-FA, there will be new designs of PAK-FA coming out.

 

[Payeng]

Is seems that CASSIDIAN believes that by the time PAK-FA hits the market Flankers will become obsolete of being stopped for further production another fact goes in mind is PAK-FA is based on Sukohi OKB design.

 

[ace009]

Hmmm - so it is more a company specific thing than a platform specific chart?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Is seems that CASSIDIAN believes that by the time PAK-FA hits the market Flankers will become obsolete of being stopped for further production another fact goes in mind is PAK-FA is based on Sukohi OKB design.

Every one dont want PAK-FA..

For some and many needs are basic..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Super flanker 30 Upgrade comes to mind..

Many want such upgrade instead for going PAK-FA..

 

[ace009]

Yeah - at ~$100 million a piece, the PAK-FA will be expensive for MOST countries. For less than half that price, countries can get a Mig-35 ($40 million) or a Su-30 MK++ for $50 million. Big, scary, enough stealth for survival, but enough presence for neighbors envy too. What do most countries do with their fighters? Show them off - parade them (in the sky), hold exercises, patrol - kind of difficult to do with a 5th gen all-stealth plane. A 4++ works better for these roles ...

 

[Payeng]

Every one dont want PAK-FA..

For some and many needs are basic..

Well I must say it is a CASSIDIAN analysis, marketing strategy plays an important role. I believe it is not that Rafale wont score an export deal ever either.

 

[Anshu Attri]

Sukhoi T-50 3D Animation


Sukhoi T-50 3D Animation on Vimeo

[video=vimeo;30889105]http://vimeo.com/30889105[/video]

 

[Anshu Attri]

The third flight model T-50 is almost ready to take off


Третий летный образец Т-50 практически готов подняться в воздух | Оборона и безопасность | Лента новостей "РИА Новости"

MOSCOW, October 27 - RIA Novosti. Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Industrial Association (KnAAPO) completes the preparation for flight tests of the third sample was a fifth generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA), told RIA Novosti on Thursday, a source in the military-industrial complex.
"Preparatory work is completed on the third flight model of the fifth generation fighter. He is almost ready to climb into the sky. It remains to work out of an airplane. He will take off, when engineers are fully confident in the product" - a spokesman said.

The source did not specify in what time frame is expected to start flight tests of a prototype aircraft, but added that at the present time the company completes the fourth sample PAK FA.
"Assembling the fourth sample is in the final phase. Now comes the testing of design" - added the official.
Source reminded of an incident at MAKS-2011 , when, in August the aircraft for technical reasons, stopped off, throwing the drag chute. As the cause of the incident media called "the failure of the power plant automation."
"The incident at the air show had no effect on the course of test aircraft. It was working, technical issue that could occur during testing of any aircraft. In terms of gaps in the airline there, everything goes as planned," - said the source.
The Russian fifth generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA) must be received by the Air Force in 2016. Flight tests took place only two samples of the PAK FA. President of the United Aircraft Corporation, Mikhail Pogosyan reported that plans to raise in the sky are two fifth-generation fighter to the end of the year.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[bhramos]

"Plasma stealth" is not operational, have not been developed and has not even been shown to work for an aircraft in atmospheric flight.

The concept of plasma stealth originated from the space re-entry vehicles, that while going through the ionosphere at a high velocity, further energize the surrounding ions and turn them into "plasma". This produces a strong EM cloaking, at which no radio signal can be detected from the space vehicle.
There are two major problems associated with plasma stalth -

1. Technological - There is no easy way to generate and maintain a plasma cloak around a fast moving aircraft in normal atmosphere.

2. Logical - Even if a plasma cloak can be developed, it would become a moving searchlight of intense ionic radiation itself, which cqn be detected by any EM detector.

India's stealthy Mig-21's





INDIAN AIR FORCE PROCURES RUSSIAN STEALTH TECHNOLOGY FOR MIG-21's
The Indian Air Force (IAF) is now adding stealth modifications to an existing $340m programme to upgrade 125 of its MiG-21bis fighters to MiG-21-93 standard. Sources for Jane's Defence Weekly have revealed these secret events in a report published in today's edition of the magazine.

Extensive tests to demonstrate Russia's ability to upgrade Indian fighter aircraft with stealth capabilities took place in front of Indian defence ministry officials at the Sokol aircraft plant in Nizhniy Novgorod on 29th May 2000. The demonstration was highly successful and is understood to have resulted in the Russian government and RSK MIG urging the IAF to adopt the stealth modifications across its MiG-21-93 fleet.

The core of the demonstration saw two MiG-21bis--one upgraded with stealth technology and one without--being tracked by what is believed to be a Mig-31 in a controlled test of radar-absorbent materials (RAM) and coatings developed at the Moscow Institute of Applied and Theoretical

Electrodynamics. During its flight the radar signature of the upgraded Mig-21bis was shown to be between 10 and 15 times weaker than the regular MiG-21bis.

It has been done, and even experimented on Indian MiG-21 Bis, but IAF thaught its costly, and went for easy and cheaply available Israeli tech. thats jammers.....

 

[ace009]

That's Radar absorbent materials and coating - old method - not Plasma stealth. Plasma stealth is more like a EM cloak - somewhere in between a jammer and a RAM coating.

 

[Anshu Attri]

India refused to buy only double FGFA


Lenta.ru: Оружие: Индия отказалась от покупки только двухместных FGFA

Indian Air Force will take on arms 214 fifth-generation fighter FGFA, established jointly with the Russian Bank "sukhoi." On this, as reported LiveMint , said the commander of the Indian Air Force Anil Kumar Norman Brown (Norman Anil Kumar Browne). According to him, 166 of the planned purchase of aircraft to be single, and the remaining 48 - double. Earlier, India had planned to buy only two-seat modification FGFA.
In mid-2010, the Ministry of Defence of India announced that the need for the armed forces in the aircraft type FGFA estimated at 250 units. Under the terms of the joint project, which, according to Brown, has not yet been cleared, single FGFA will be assembled in Russia, while the twin planes would produce such an Indian company Hindustan Aeronautics. After completion of the supply the Indian Air Force fighters, Russia and India will begin offering aircraft in the world market.

India and Russia signed a contract for joint development of FGFA at the end of 2010. Previously it was thought that the Indian version of the aircraft, the development of which will be based on the Russian T-50 (PAK FA), will differ from the last two-seater cockpit, engines and airborne equipment. The last - will be entirely Indian production. The project cost is estimated at ten billion dollars, and with the purchase of FGFA for the Indian Air Force program volume could reach $ 30 billion.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Any photos of the third prototype yet.........