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gadeshi

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hummm..... YES ! you're right !
a question : Mig 1.42/1.44 was flying or just a mock up?
1.44 was an experimental plane for 1.42 fighter project.
1.44 has made only 2 flights before project was closed.
There are rumors about another one 1.42 project iteration - 1.46, but nobody has seen even a single image of it outside the close group in MiG DB. However, all who have seen those images were very exited seeing J-20 first flight which is pretty sugnificant as for me.
 

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as for LM and Boeing
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Strange isn't it?

Physics laws are the same for winner of US trials (and only the winner) and foreign products..... the effect of chance. only that. What else?
 

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1.44 was an experimental plane for 1.42 fighter project.
1.44 has made only 2 flights before project was closed.
There are rumors about another one 1.42 project iteration - 1.46, but nobody has seen even a single image of it outside the close group in MiG DB. However, all who have seen those images were very exited seeing J-20 first flight which is pretty sugnificant as for me.

russia sold Mig 1.44/1.42 designs to china .

It seems that for LM and Northrop the physics laws were slightly differents....

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there are few designs possible in which you get a good combination of stealth , maneuverability and space .............

just look at the any other 5th generation Fighter plane of this world (turkey ,India , south Korea ) ..................all of them have similar designs ,why ?? Europeans dont have any 5th generation Fighter plane program otherwise your designs will look similar to F-22 .
 

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russia sold Mig 1.44/1.42 designs to china .



there are few designs possible in which you get a good combination of stealth , maneuverability and space .............

just look at the any other 5th generation Fighter plane of this world (turkey ,India , south Korea ) ..................all of them have similar designs ,why ?? Europeans dont have any 5th generation Fighter plane program otherwise your designs will look similar to F-22 .
or F23.
or.... a flying win (with TVC and FBW, all is possible)
or.....
 

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It's not different physics but different concepts of fighter and its usage scheme.
NO.
F22 and F23 were two different answers to the same official request. And the two fulfill the objectivs. The F22 was just slightly better and less risky.

same for F35 and F32. even if the F32 lack of maturity (because F35'LM used parts of the F22 concept) and loose badly.
 

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Source links please....................................................................................................................
Maybe this would help a little, although no confirmation:-

Forgotten Russian MiG Resurrected as New Chinese 5th Generation Jet?

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201511291030954203-russian-mig-china-fifth-generation-jet/
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http://www.defensetech.org/2011/08/19/did-the-j-20-come-from-this-mig/
 

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New Chinese stealth jet starts talk of Russian help

Similarities between a new Chinese fighter jet and a prototype Russian plane have brought suggestions that Moscow may be quietly helping Beijing compete with the world's military powers.

Experts say the fifth-generation J-20 fighter, which made its maiden flight in January during a visit of the U.S. defense secretary, could have its origins in the Mikoyan 1.44 stealth jet that never made it to the production line.

A highly placed source close to Russia's defense industry said the similarities suggested Mikoyan technology had been passed into the hands of Chinese arms designers.

"It looks like they got access...to documents relating to the Mikoyan -- the aircraft that the Ministry of Defense skipped over in its tender to create a stealth fighter," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

He said it was not clear whether such a transfer of technology had been legal. Analysts say Russia's assistance to the Chinese may help Moscow keep tabs on the rising military power's defense capabilities of its eastern neighbor.

Independent analyst Adil Mukashev, who specializes in ties between Russia and China, suggested there had been a financial transaction.

"China bought the technology for parts, including the tail of the Mikoyan, for money," he said.

China's Defense Ministry declined a request for comment. Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), which oversees production of the Mikoyan jets, denies any technology or design transfer took place with China.

Only the United States has an operational fifth-generation fighter, which is nearly impossible to track on radar. Russia is working to start serial production of its prototype craft in the next five to six years.

China's creation of such a plane would put the country into an elite group of military powers, although analysts say it will take years to perfect the craft.

The source said Chinese officials had been invited to the plane's first public display when Russia was in the early stages of creating a fighter jet to compete with the U.S. F-22.

Rival designer Sukhoi was eventually contracted to help build the fighter and the Mikoyan 1.44, which lacks the radar-evading engineering of the U.S. F-22, was passed over.
 

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Source links please....................................................................................................................
What links?
Inside means some trusted people from RSK MiG have mentioned this on waronline.com, army.ru, militaryparitet.com forums.
Moreover this, it is not a secret that RSK MiG engineers have helped China to develop and adjust J-10 in the 90-th with a wide SibNIIA assistance. Many of the people who worked on this have tould us on the forums above that Chinese had a great interest in aquiring RSK MiG experimental and prospective projects documentation "to learn MiG engineering school approaches" that time.
 
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How would this aircraft compare to the Eurofighter Typhoon? Would this be able to take-off from aircraft carriers and launch nuclear weapons? I'm hoping that the FGFA would be available to deck out the Shtorm.
 

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How would this aircraft compare to the Eurofighter Typhoon? Would this be able to take-off from aircraft carriers and launch nuclear weapons? I'm hoping that the FGFA would be available to deck out the Shtorm.
Eurofighter Typhoon is 4th+++ generation MutliRole Fighter , and Pakfa is 5th generation Air superiority Fighter , yes it can carry nukes .

it will be able to take-off from aircraft carrier (INS VISHAL ) if we get EMAL technology from USA .

it will not be able to take-off from INS Vikramadiya .
 
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