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Israel and India sign missile system deal

Published: Aug. 22, 2009 at 7:29 AM

JERUSALEM, Aug. 22 (UPI) -- Israel's Rafael defense company will provide the Indian army with surface-to-air missile systems in a deal said to be worth over $1 billion.

Israeli media reports said the deal was approved recently by the Indian Cabinet. Rafael will supply India with 18 SPYDER missile systems between 2011 and 2012.

The anti-aircraft system is a quick-reaction, low-level, surface-to-air missile designed to counter attacks by aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles and precision guided munitions, the Israeli company said.

The system's truck-mounted missile firing units carry four missiles on rotatable launchers. A standard missile battery contains up to six missile firing units per battery, the company said.

The system has a 360-degree engagement capability in all weather conditions, day or night, and can intercept incoming threats at a range of between 0.62 miles to 9.3 miles (1 to 15 kilometers).

Israel defense exports to India have reached $3 billion, making it the largest arms supplier to India, surpassing Russia, the Israeli newspaper Globes reported Thursday.
 

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some information based on Wikipedia, regarding Spyder missile :

SPYDER (Surface to air PYthon and DERby ) is a surface to air missile system developed by RAFAEL , is a Quick Reaction Medium Range Missile System (QRMRSM) , it is capable of engaging enemy targets such as Combat Aircraft, Helicopters, Drones and Precision Guided Munitions (PGM)s. The name suggest that the missile system using both surface to air version of Python and Derby missile manufactured by the company.

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Missile with its launcher incorporated on the chassis of Czech Tatra , has the 360 degree engagement capability and can be launched less than 5 seconds from target confirmation , kill range is from 1 KM to 15 KM and altitude ranging from 20 M to 9KM . The system is capable of Multi Target simultaneous engagements and single multiple ripple firing with both Day&Night and All-weather capability. The C&C (Command & Control) Unit is developed by IAI and homed in truck mounted shelter of Elta EL/M2016, ATAR radar, IFF(Information Friend or Foe) interrogator , and communication equipments. The VHF/UHF system is for internal communication and upper tier command , ELTA EL/M2016 3D ATAR radar can track up to 60 targets simultaneously , radar includes electronic counter measures for operation in dense hostile electronic warfare environment.

Images of SPYDER Surface to Air QRMRSM ,(Image: Wikipedia, author: Ereshkigal1 in Wikipedia, licensed under: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported for details see: File:SPYDER.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Creative Commons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)



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The images of Launcher of the Spyder missile (Image : Wikipedia , Author : Tal Inbar (טל ענבר) source : Hebrew Wikipedia , permission under : GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation for details see: Commons:GNU Free Documentation License - Wikimedia Commons, and under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license , for details see: Creative Commons — Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, and File:Spyder missile system.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)



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18 systems for US $1 Billion

Thats like USD $52 million for one system.

Whoa.....$52 mil for 4 SAM missiles.

That sounds awfully expensive and at that price they better work against anything !!
 

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india wants to work on its own bmd system via aad and pad which they think are superior.i would support that.
 

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they should also give a boost to akash system which has proven...they were working to increase range too.
 

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Only 15 km!!

Thats like USD $52 million for one system.

Whoa.....$52 mil for 4 SAM missiles.

That sounds awfully expensive and at that price they better work against anything !!
I see the rangeis only 15 km and it is still called medium range missile?:sad:
 

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Thats like USD $52 million for one system.

Whoa.....$52 mil for 4 SAM missiles.

That sounds awfully expensive and at that price they better work against anything !!
Your calculation is simplistic and incorrect.

Each system consists of a Radar/Command and Control Unit, and several launchers (not just 4 missiles). Generally, we have 4 launchers per system/battery. Each launcher holds 4 missiles in a ready to fire state (purpose of QRSAM). That means about 16 missiles per battery. Also, there could be more missiles for reload.

Calculation of costs is not that simple and may include support, servicing and training personnel.
 

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Your calculation is simplistic and incorrect.

Each system consists of a Radar/Command and Control Unit, and several launchers (not just 4 missiles). Generally, we have 4 launchers per system/battery. Each launcher holds 4 missiles in a ready to fire state (purpose of QRSAM). That means about 16 missiles per battery. Also, there could be more missiles for reload.

Calculation of costs is not that simple and may include support, servicing and training personnel.
Do we have a transfer of technology for this missile?
 

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I could not find any source where it is said that there will be ToT for this system. However, some sub-systems will be manufactured in India. The missiles (Python-5 and Derby, including guidance) will be manufactured in Israel.
 

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Isn't it purchased due to failure of Trishul?
 

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There was some talk of Israel investing money into indian defence sector as offsets for the big deals (A-50I Phalcon AWAC).

Any news on that?
 

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Isn't it purchased due to failure of Trishul?
not certain.trishul which was designed basically for the navy though it was being planned for land use too in which case your guess is correct.anyway DRDO wants to use the tech in new generation missile called "MAITRI".
 
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is it?did not know that.can you provide link?thanks mate.
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Nation | Junked: France joint missile plan

Junked: France joint missile plan
SUJAN DUTTA

New Delhi, July 15: New Delhi has junked a proposal from Paris to develop a missile defence system in a joint venture, despite France’s charm offensive that saw Indian soldiers leading the Bastille Day parade on the Champs Elysees on Tuesday.

A senior defence ministry source, when asked today about the defence deals that figured in discussions during Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to Paris, said that a $500-million (Rs 2,430 crore) proposal from European missile maker MDBA to jointly produce low-level quick reaction missiles (LLQRM) — or short-range surface-to-air missiles (SR-SAMs) — was “not happening”.

Defence secretary Vijay Singh was a member of the Prime Minister’s delegation.

A French defence delegation is expected to begin discussions with Indian officials in New Delhi tomorrow, mainly to negotiate an upgrade order for the Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 fighter aircraft. The order could be about euro 2 billion (Rs 13,700 crore).

MBDA is one of the largest missile makers in the world and operates out of France, the UK, Italy and Germany.

The joint venture proposal to make the “Maitri” missiles figured in discussions in January 2008 that Nicolas Sarkozy had with Manmohan when the French President was the chief guest at India’s Republic Day ceremonies.

The scrapping of the Maitri project may have worked to the advantage of Israel. In 2007, the Indian Air Force contracted 18 Spyder missile systems for about $395.4 million (Rs 1,800 crore) from Israel. Israeli company Rafael was the contractor with Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) being the major sub-contractor.

But in May this year, IAI was blacklisted after defence minister A.K. Antony ordered action against all seven companies named in a CBI investigation into the deals by the former ordnance factory board director-general Sudipta Ghosh. Ghosh’s houses in Calcutta were raided and he was arrested.

The defence ministry is now reconsidering its ban on the seven firms.

The Maitri missile project involved a technological collaboration between MBDA, India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and defence public sector unit Bharat Dynamics Limited, the only company in the country that makes missiles.

The LLQRMS were to be designed for the navy and the air force, which are replacing their outdated OSA-AK Soviet-era missile defence systems.

India is the launch customer for Rafael’s Spyder and the Israeli company is seeking to expand the market for it. India’s military is in need of at least 1,000 short-range surface-to-air missiles to protect installations and VVIP complexes.

The DRDO was also hoping to use its experience gained in working on the now aborted indigenous Trishul short-range missile project and marry it with the advance seeker and guidance systems from MBDA’s MICA missile.

MBDA is a long-time supplier of missiles to India’s army, air force and navy. Earlier this year, the Indian Army ordered 4,100 Milan 27 anti-tank missiles that are also used for destroying built-up targets.
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Why are we not conisering S series SAM missiles??world military recoganise it as the best in the world and still we dont buy not a single one of them...
 
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I have a feeling when ASTRA is produced a land version may also be produced??
 

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Why are we not conisering S series SAM missiles??world military recoganise it as the best in the world and still we dont buy not a single one of them...
Almost all Russian SAMs are S series. :p and their NATO codenames are SA.

S-125 Neva/Pechora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
SA-2 Guideline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India is suspected to have the S-300PMU2 version, though there is no documented source.

S-400 is bloody expensive. Russians themselves have deployed only 3 operational batteries, 2 around Moscow and one in the East near Korea.
 

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