Smoke Detected on INS Sindhuratna :

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I'm posting what I tweeted wrt the new thesis on how US/Israel targeted the Iranian centrifuges

Pls read all the tweets

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Damn first tweet doesn't show the entire thread.

Let me try the last tweet in that thread and see if it shows the preceding ones

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Ministry of Defence should be court marshalled.
 

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INS Sindhuratna was involved in an exercise along the Mumbai harbour when a leakage in the battery compartment of the submarine occurred resulting in five Naval personnel suffering suffocation, Navy sources told PTI here.

That implies a release of hydrogen gas if I am not mistaken. Any submariners here who can speak to how that is normally addressed as a safety issue?
 

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10 years ago when Navy send a SoS message to the then Defence secretary about the poor condition of almost all submarines, the government promised modernization and completely new boats. The Navy reminded the government again and again and again. With agility the government promised again and again and again. Years have passed and all that was done was a 'touch up' job. May I kindly request all bureaucrats and politicians to visit the house of Lt Cdr Kapil and Lt Manoranjan today and see how their families are still in shock. A poor jawan who had struggled all his life to see his son as an Officer in the Indian Armed forces feels cheated by the government of his own country. Should he ask his government that the modernization funds that Navy was asking was only a fraction of all the scams that this government has done ? Sorry for the harsh words, the heart is crying blood today.


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That implies a release of hydrogen gas if I am not mistaken. Any submariners here who can speak to how that is normally addressed as a safety issue?

OK, I'll answer my own question.

Fleet Submarine Battery System


Chlorine gas is also a hazard.

The battery cells [are] made up of lead plates, suspended in a sulfuric acid/water solution, exactly like that used in car batteries. As the cells were charged, the breakdown of the water portion of the electrolyte could produce hydrogen gas. This was removed through an elaborate ventilation system and discharged outside the pressure hull. If allowed to accumulate, of course, this gas would constitute an explosion hazard.

An additional hazard, which could be encountered in unusual circumstances, was salt water contamination of the batteries. If salt water mixed with the electrolyte, chlorine gas could be produced, with obvious dangers to the crew. A limited chlorine gas problem added to the woes of the Squalus survivors as they awaited rescue.
 

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INS Sindhuratna docked in Mumbai - The Hindu

INS Sindhuratna, which suffered a mishap on Wednesday morning after heavy smoke filled one of its compartments, reached the Mumbai harbour on Thursday morning.

The Russian-made Kilo class submarine was forced to surface after the accident. The submarine was on a routine exercise when smoke engulfed it leading to the accident, Navy sources said.

"The Indian Naval Submarine Sindhuratna returned to harbour on the morning of 27 February. Search for two missing crew members is continuing and every effort is underway to locate them," the Navy press release on Thursday read.

Navy sources told The Hindu that the two Naval officers who are still missing might be inside one of the compartments of Sindhuratna and search operations are underway but as time passes, the chances of their survival becomes bleak.

'Condition of rescused sailors stable'

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Meanwhile, the condition of the injured personnel, who had inhaled smoke and were airlifted to the naval hospital INS Ashwini, is reported to be stable.

INS Sindhuratna was at sea off Mumbai for routine training and workup (inspection) in the early hours of Wednesday when smoke was reported in the sailors' accommodation, in compartment number three, by the submarine.

"Two officials are unaccounted for. They might have been left in the cabin or at some other place as various cabins and compartments are isolated as part of the emergency measures," Navy officials had said.

Hours after the mishap and in the wake of a spate of accidents involving the Naval warships in the recent past, Navy Chief Admiral D K Joshi had resigned on Wednesday taking moral responsibility.
 

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The two sailors "missing" have been confirmed dead. RIP
 

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Behind Sindhuratna disaster, a struggling Navy - The Hindu

Leaking hydrogen from batteries stored in the forward compartment of the INS Sindhuratna might have set off Wednesday's fire which claimed the lives of two naval officers and injured seven, highly-placed naval sources told The Hindu. Sailors in the forward compartment battled the flames even while inhaling freon, a fire-retardant gas, from the ship's automatic fire-fighting system, the sources said.

The two officers killed, the sources said, could not be evacuated in time when the compartment was sealed off to prevent the blaze from spreading.


Seaking helicopters were scrambled from Mumbai to evacuate injured crew. The seven sailors, who inhaled toxic gas, are now being treated at INS Aswini, the naval hospital in Mumbai.

"Even as the Navy must be asked hard questions about how this tragedy happened, I think we should salute the courage of the sailors involved, who potentially averted a far larger tragedy," said maritime expert and former naval officer commodore C. Uday Bhaskar

In November 2008, the accidental discharge of Freon gas in an Akula class nuclear-powered attack submarine killed 20 Russian sailors and injured 41 others. That submarine, interestingly, now serves in the Indian fleet, renamed INS Chakra.

Part of a series of Kilo-class submarines purchased from the Soviet Union, Sindhuratna was commissioned into the Navy in 1988, and was originally intended to have been phased out in 2013.

However, delays in the modernisation programme had led the Navy to first cut back its operational hours, and then engage in a refit intended to extend the submarine's seaworthiness.

In a report released last year, the Comptroller and Auditor General warned that "The Navy currently holds just 67% of the force level envisaged in its 1985 [maritime expansion] plan." Privately, naval officials say the submarine fleet functions at just 40 per cent of its operational need.

India had commissioned a production line for German-designed U-209 submarines, also known as the Shishumar class, anticipating the ageing of its Kilo-class submarines. However, the line was closed down after the construction of INS Shishumar in 1994, after a scandal over alleged payoffs.

Though hulls have been laid for six French-designed Scorpene submarines, production delays mean it will be several years before the first vessel becomes available for service. France last year threatened to withdraw from the project, pointing to multiple delays since the agreement was signed in 2005.

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May their souls rest in peace. So sad.
 

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Wondering why suddenly ' Kilos ' are getting effected only ..

There are HDW`s too operating there ..
 

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"This is the tenth accident involving an Indian Navy warship and the third submarine mishap in the last seven months."


I refuse to believe that all these were accidents. Something fishy is going on.
Refer my post no. 5
 

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RIP!!!Lt Cdr Kapish Muwal & Lt Manoranjan Kumar, the 2 officers who died on board INS Sindhuratna. ...........NO WAR since loosing warriors simple reason Not carrying for country's security!!!
 

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how can we expect them to protect our country if they can't even maintain the vessels?
 

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The submarine's propulsion system consists of two diesel generators, a main propulsion motor, a fuel-economic motor and a single shaft driving a seven-blade fixed-pitch propeller.....Two 120-cell storage batteries are installed in the first and third compartments of the submarine. The main machinery is equipped with an automatic control system.
SSK Kilo Class (Type 636) - Naval Technology
 

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But the biggest question is are we just Wasting millions of dollars ??

It was just out of upgrades and was going trials when this happened..

Just buy new subs instead of wasting money if these things happen
 

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Sindhuratna fire could have started in sailors' deck: Navy

The fire on board the submarine INS Sindhuratna could have started from the sailors' deck above the battery pit of the vessel, Navy said on Tuesday. "A preliminary assessment of damage sustained onboard was carried out by a specialist team of Western Naval Command. Based on preliminary inspection of third compartment (sailors' accommodation), the likely seat of fire has been indicated as the mess deck, which is located one deck above the battery bit," a Navy release said. Certain electric cables were observed to be "burnt in this area and the cause for initiation of fire at this location would be ascertained in due course by the high level Board of Inquiry". On the status of batteries, the Navy said Kilo Class submarines carry 240 cells, distributed equally in forward and aft battery pits. The batteries currently "installed on Sindhuratna have till date completed about 113 cycles as against 200 cycles available for exploitation... The batteries which were being exploited by Sindhuratna at the time of incident were therefore operationally in- date," it said. On the status of the battery compartment in the vessel, the Navy said, "Preliminary inspection shows no damage has been observed thus for. Further, there are no signs to indicate any initiation of fire from the battery pit. The batteries appear to be clear of any damage and would now be put through normal checks and maintenance routines prior operationalisation."


Sindhuratna fire could have started in sailors' deck: Navy - Rediff.com India News
 

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