Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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Zoid Raptor

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Vivek Krishnan, the CEO of SSSD asked me to convey this message in reply to this:
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Curious who these "Indian" engineers are when there's no small arms ecosystem outside the OFBs' or ARDE. If it was that simple, Caracal with a lot more financial resources wouldn't be hiring the famed designers from Sig & HK to design their products and also help build their production facilities
 

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Congratulations 🎉 I know the designer is here no clue about rest of the team but congratulations to all of you and the whole design is Indian except scope.
why are the LPVOs so fucking costly , that to from FALKE ??
Doing the currency conversion of cost stated on their website it comes at 72,547.06 INR , isn't this too much of a price hike
I smell something fishy ...

https://www.falke-germany.com/zielfernrohre/1-8x26/
 

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Is it worth it?
Vz.58s are worn out in all probability.
Not sure how effective these mods will be, considering the ejection of cartridges unless they have an arrangement like the one in the attached video.


Agree with that as SF fires more shots than regulars and these gun barrels might have totally worn out and these guns are much older as last batch of these were made in -1983.Don’t know how we bought these in early 90s,whether these were used second hand ones or unsold ones preserved in cosmoline.Same with those underfolder Aks you see with police forces and Capfs .Those are early 60s made first gen Akms with wooden pistol grips.Still they fires great
 

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IDF is completely phasing out the Tavor series of bullpup rifles in all calibers.

As part of the military operations in Gaza, the IDF is planning a major overhaul of its arsenal poised to revolutionize the battlefield dynamics for infantry, armored corps, engineering and artillery units. The military's strategy includes adopting a unified Israeli weapon system, with a particular focus on enhancing the capabilities of infantry soldiers. To that end, the Defense Ministry's Department of Production and Procurement (DoPP) is initiating a large-scale tender for tens of thousands of rifles from three local weapon manufacturers: Silver Shadow, which is the primary producer of the Tavor rifle, Emtan with its MZ rifle and Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) with their Arad rifle. All three are AR-15 platform rifles.

Following an extensive testing process by the IDF, two of these manufacturers will be awarded the tender. The new rifles will be based on the widely used American M4 and will serve as an advanced version of the Colt M16, featuring various attachments to enhance accuracy and optical capabilities for extended range.
Consequently, the Israeli-made Tavor rifles, initially intended as a replacement for the American rifles almost two decades ago but limited to distribution among three infantry brigades (Givati, Golani and Nahal), will gradually be phased out in the IDF.

As an interim solution, the Tavor rifles will be reassigned to non-infantry units such as armored corps, artillery and potentially engineering. Additionally, due to the wear and tear on existing weapons during the war, the DoPP has placed an order for approximately 20,000 American M4 rifles and an additional 3,000 Tavor rifles.

The Defense Ministry emphasizes that the two Israeli manufacturers who win the tender will have to comply with strict conditions, despite their weapons having already been successfully sold to security units within Israel, including the police and the Shin Bet internal intelligence agency, as well as foreign armed forces.
"The Tavor is based on a bullpup mechanism, which is less common in Western armies, less suitable for operating certain restraints, and has relative disadvantages in combat in closed spaces, as we have seen in the fighting in Gaza," a senior IDF officer leading the military buildup project told Ynet.

"We conducted in-depth research on the subject and comparative experiments with soldiers from the Givati, Kfir and Netzah Yehuda brigades to ensure that it is not just a gut feeling of commanders. We observed in the tests we conducted in the ranges that we need to transition to a unified weapon system because significant gaps have emerged, mainly in reserve battalions that are composed of soldiers from different units, some of whom used the Tavor and others the M4."

The ambition to rely on indigenous Tavor rifles marks the third attempt by the Israeli military in the past few decades to achieve self-reliance, following the Galil rifles in the 1970s and 1980s and the Tavors introduced in the early 2000s, both of which came short of the desired goals.
"This transition will provide significant maintenance flexibility, reduce the reasons for soldiers to transition from active duty to reserves, establish a standardized supply system, and generate long-term logistical cost savings," the officer explained. "Our objective is to allocate the new M4 rifles received from the U.S. to Givati and Golani forces this year, enabling them to familiarize themselves with and begin utilizing the same weapon technology that will eventually be manufactured in Israel."

The standard rifles left, along with the M4 rifles gradually phased out by the IDF, will be moved to the army's newly established emergency stockpiles, an uncommon practice for various combat units.
As an example, Home Front Command soldiers can often be seen in city centers equipped with 50+-year-old M16 rifles. The IDF believed this phenomenon would have disappeared by now as it had moved away from the use of "long rifles" nearly twenty years ago.

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Agree with that as SF fires more shots than regulars and these gun barrels might have totally worn out and these guns are much older as last batch of these were made in -1983.Don’t know how we bought these in early 90s,whether these were used second hand ones or unsold ones preserved in cosmoline.Same with those underfolder Aks you see with police forces and Capfs .Those are early 60s made first gen Akms with wooden pistol grips.Still they fires great
Perhaps we had procured it before 90s.

There's a James Bond movie Octopussy that was released in 1983. A lot of scenes were shot in Udaipur including the palace scene where the henchmen were armed with Vz.58s. Not sure if those were from Indian military inventory but usually movie guns are leased from military/local police.
 

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Perhaps we had procured it before 90s.

There's a James Bond movie Octopussy that was released in 1983. A lot of scenes were shot in Udaipur including the palace scene where the henchmen were armed with Vz.58s. Not sure if those were from Indian military inventory but usually movie guns are leased from military/local police.
Paras in Lanka were equipped solely with FALs and Sterlings in the initial days .Only later they got Hungarian ,East German and Bulgarian Aks .Vzs came around in 93
 

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Paras in Lanka were equipped solely with FALs and Sterlings in the initial days .Only later they got Hungarian ,East German and Bulgarian Aks .Vzs came around in 93
Yeah. Even in an article by Sandeep Unnithan it was mentioned that Paras procured it in 90s.
 

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Paras in Lanka were equipped solely with FALs and Sterlings in the initial days .Only later they got Hungarian ,East German and Bulgarian Aks .Vzs came around in 93
I heard from a person who was there, many many years ago, he said AKs not captured ones were issued sometime in 1989.
 

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