Small arms and Light Weapons

[Aditya Ballal]

Yo...anybody has a shooting video of INSAS MK1C?? Can't find it anywhere...
I'll even pay to view it's performance

Please keep the money ready

Watch from 04:53. Please DM me for my Gpay details. Manish has misidentified it as Excalibur though.

 

[Whitecollar]

Watch from 04:53. Please DM me for my Gpay details. Manish has misidentified it as Excalibur though.

Wow...the 1C really fires well...very less recoil and has lesser weight than 1B...maza aa gya bro def check ur inbox.

 

[Whitecollar]

Our Desi Gun Jesus...
*Knows how to fire all caliber rifles
*Skilled recoil handling
*Focussed firing and marksmanship
*Very stable firing pose

People like them should get more limelight...he will probably have much more information about OFB's guns than OFB babus themselves...

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[FalconSlayers]

So it might be true that Israeli military will shift to IWI Arad from X-95, atleast starting from their SF units as mentioned in Agilite video. As Arad isn’t available for civies.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

So it might be true that Israeli military will shift to IWI Arad from X-95, atleast starting from their SF units as mentioned in Agilite video. As Arad isn’t available for civies.
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Indian forces interest in this gun is only the dream of us fanboys/enthusiasts, I doubt PLR will ever make these as they seem hell bent on marketing their Galils and Tavors.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Indian forces interest in this gun is only the dream of us fanboys/enthusiasts, I doubt PLR will ever make these as they seem hell bent on marketing their Galils and Tavors.

Only large orders from their existing offerings, if they ever get I’ll be really happy about is IWI Masada and Negev.

 

[Lonewarrior]

So it might be true that Israeli military will shift to IWI Arad from X-95, atleast starting from their SF units as mentioned in Agilite video. As Arad isn’t available for civies.
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And there goes one more bullpup.
Slowly and steadily more and more bullpups are biting dust.

"The Conventionals Strike Back"

 

[Johny_Baba]

So it might be true that Israeli military will shift to IWI Arad from X-95, atleast starting from their SF units as mentioned in Agilite video. As Arad isn’t available for civies.
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They should rather try to downscale their Tavor-7 design and offer 5.56x45mm and such versions,
that design is practically more ambidextrous and also has got short stroke gas piston system over long-stroke gas piston one of regular Tavor//X-95 etc

i mean the kind of long stroke gas piston system they've implemented is not so ;clean; either, as there seems to be no gas vent holes that would kick out excess gases, plus length of the piston system is relatively shorter (and likewise, gas port-tube length is somewhat longer) in it,
so it seems they tried to make an overgassed system without vent holes but a large gas cylinder inside which gases expand etc, but it seems to be leaving out carbon things inside there and so, if not cleaned then potentially it could result in undesirable things, me thinks...

gas cylinder on Tavor//X-95

the green line showing rearward motion of the gas piston is where this long gas cylinder fits inside the Tavor//X-95, blue line is gas port-tube thing, notice how its length is quite longer than other gas piston system rifles

and i have this dirty tavor inside pic to give you some idea about the thing i'm trying to say here, see that carbon buildup inside ?

so yeah, short stroke gas piston system with venting ports would be a bit better over this, me thinks
though it seems there's enough space inside for such gunk to buildup and still work just fine (looser tolerances etc ?) but still better if it could be improved...

sidenote, the kind of cocking handle rod thing that's there on Tavor//X-95 is also prone to fuxx up gas cylinder thing if not seated properly during maintenance, could leave a dent on gas cylinder or things like that are often complained by certain users.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Ooops

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

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Ooops

Just asking, what will be seen when the optic is other way around? Or nothing is seen?

 

[Whitecollar]

They should rather try to downscale their Tavor-7 design and offer 5.56x45mm and such versions,
that design is practically more ambidextrous and also has got short stroke gas piston system over long-stroke gas piston one of regular Tavor//X-95 etc

i mean the kind of long stroke gas piston system they've implemented is not so ;clean; either, as there seems to be no gas vent holes that would kick out excess gases, plus length of the piston system is relatively shorter (and likewise, gas port-tube length is somewhat longer) in it,
so it seems they tried to make an overgassed system without vent holes but a large gas cylinder inside which gases expand etc, but it seems to be leaving out carbon things inside there and so, if not cleaned then potentially it could result in undesirable things, me thinks...

gas cylinder on Tavor//X-95
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the green line showing rearward motion of the gas piston is where this long gas cylinder fits inside the Tavor//X-95, blue line is gas port-tube thing, notice how its length is quite longer than other gas piston system rifles
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and i have this dirty tavor inside pic to give you some idea about the thing i'm trying to say here, see that carbon buildup inside ?
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so yeah, short stroke gas piston system with venting ports would be a bit better over this, me thinks
though it seems there's enough space inside for such gunk to buildup and still work just fine (looser tolerances etc ?) but still better if it could be improved...

sidenote, the kind of cocking handle rod thing that's there on Tavor//X-95 is also prone to fuxx up gas cylinder thing if not seated properly during maintenance, could leave a dent on gas cylinder or things like that are often complained by certain users.

Abe kaha se laate ho bhaiya itne detailed pics?? Pakka US me guns chalaye ho ya Army me the. You remind me of FPSRussia...even back in Ghost and Chinmoy days, you were very much precise in detailing problems and assertions about weapons. Tell us the truth.

 

[Lonewarrior]

They should rather try to downscale their Tavor-7 design and offer 5.56x45mm and such versions,
that design is practically more ambidextrous and also has got short stroke gas piston system over long-stroke gas piston one of regular Tavor//X-95 etc

i mean the kind of long stroke gas piston system they've implemented is not so ;clean; either, as there seems to be no gas vent holes that would kick out excess gases, plus length of the piston system is relatively shorter (and likewise, gas port-tube length is somewhat longer) in it,
so it seems they tried to make an overgassed system without vent holes but a large gas cylinder inside which gases expand etc, but it seems to be leaving out carbon things inside there and so, if not cleaned then potentially it could result in undesirable things, me thinks...

gas cylinder on Tavor//X-95
View attachment 136138
the green line showing rearward motion of the gas piston is where this long gas cylinder fits inside the Tavor//X-95, blue line is gas port-tube thing, notice how its length is quite longer than other gas piston system rifles
View attachment 136137
and i have this dirty tavor inside pic to give you some idea about the thing i'm trying to say here, see that carbon buildup inside ?
View attachment 136139

so yeah, short stroke gas piston system with venting ports would be a bit better over this, me thinks
though it seems there's enough space inside for such gunk to buildup and still work just fine (looser tolerances etc ?) but still better if it could be improved...

sidenote, the kind of cocking handle rod thing that's there on Tavor//X-95 is also prone to fuxx up gas cylinder thing if not seated properly during maintenance, could leave a dent on gas cylinder or things like that are often complained by certain users.

Aaaaah mate, so wrote so elaborately just to describe the issues with Tavor/X-95 gas system!?
I've a more crisp answer to all the points you mentioned.

Add a suppressor to Tavor/X-95 and shoot full auto. Then you'll see the real magic happening merely inches away front of your face.

 

[Whitecollar]

Just asking, what will be seen when the optic is other way around? Or nothing is seen?

Yes...an EOTECH works even if mounted backwards...just not that accurately. Also, you need to turn the brightness to full to view reticle from opposite.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Aaaaah mate, so wrote so elaborately just to describe the issues with Tavor/X-95 gas system!?
I've a more crisp answer to all the points you mentioned.

Add a suppressor to Tavor/X-95 and shoot full auto. Then you'll see the real magic happening merely inches away front of your face.

Yeah i mean, honestly i didn't think much about suppressor causing increased flow of gases inside the gas system on Tavor and wasn't sure how much gas would usually bleed inside the receiver - later would vent outside from the ejection port which is near to shooter's face etc things...
so i referred some videos on youtube and found it happening on very first video i clicked, that was by Military Arms Channel, and yes it does happen on suppressed Tavors//X-95s
So yeah, happens but here he's saying it's mostly tolerable, plus if rifle's other ejection port is sealed enough (so as it doesn't bleed though that side on shooter's face directly) then mostly manageable,
but still one of the less desirable aspect of Tavor//X-95 gas system here...

sidenote - i initially wrote a short reply but i felt probably just saying "yeah it happens as well" wouldn't be a proper reply so deleted it and tried to look around on videos first and trying to read about it on other places etc, i was originally thinking probably AR pattern rifles are ones that exhibit this trait when suppressed etc but it somewhat also applied on Tavor//X-95 due to the kind of gas system here

 

[MisraZ]

Guys this is what an abomination looks like:

 

[SGOperative]

I have started to feel the whole decision making people in the army are incompetent.

Yeah but the Deal was cancelled by MOD in this specific case

 

[NotASussyBoi]

Guys this is what an abomination looks like:


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[hsinchong]

Does Mizoram have SAKO TRG-22's?

 

[NotASussyBoi]

Does Mizoram have SAKO TRG-22's?

mate i don't think the goverment allows precision rifles to sell for the public

 

[MisraZ]

Does Mizoram have SAKO TRG-22's?

Yes there state police had ordered some units way back in 2008 i guess