Small arms and Light Weapons

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Valid point two Tigger.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Ofb could've done something similar, but it's too much to expect something from them

I remember suggesting for creating a Double Action//Single Action version of Hi-Power here wayy ago, based on Finnish version often called Hi-Power Double Action or as marketing lable given by the FN Browning Double Action (BDA)

Dada,in that case,We can adopt this weapon.

This is Browning Hi-Power Double Action Pistol.

Very much similar to Older Hi-Power and Reliable too.

It is currently in service with Finnish Defense Forces as their Service Pistol.

a proper modernised variant based on ^this^ sort of derivative of Browning Hi-Power would have been noice...

...

...but then who would've ordered those Beretta PX4 Storms, IWI Jericho and Glocks here...

Sidenote - IWI Jericho that our SF is so fond of is based on Cz 75, which in turn was based on...Browning Hi-Power

 

[MisraZ]

I remember suggesting for creating a Double Action//Single Action version of Hi-Power here wayy ago, based on Finnish version often called Hi-Power Double Action or as marketing lable given by the FN Browning Double Action (BDA)


a proper modernised variant based on ^this^ sort of derivative of Browning Hi-Power would have been noice...

...

...but then who would've ordered those Beretta PX4 Storms, IWI Jericho and Glocks here...

Sidenote - IWI Jericho that our SF is so fond of is based on Cz 75, which in turn was based on...Browning Hi-Power

Good old HP BDA. Should've been the successor of 1A but as you said who would have imported those phorein maals.

 

[SGOperative]

Good old HP BDA. Should've been the successor of 1A but as you said who would have imported those phorein maals.

For That OFB would have to at least make something no?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Ofb could've done something similar, but it's too much to expect something from them

There was a way easier option for OFB f**kers.
And this one needed no modernization, no ceramic coating, no match trigger. Nothing.

Just drill the chamber few millimetres shorter and add a slightly lighter recoil spring. You now have a fantastic quality .380 ACP pistol for the civilian market compared to all the other available alternatives.

What was stopping them from doing this much!?

 

[Johny_Baba]

Good old HP BDA. Should've been the successor of 1A but as you said who would have imported those phorein maals.

Well the thing is, Army itself sees no much usability in pistols,
like their POV is, pistols are mostly useless in active combat, serve as a backup-ish weapon etc so why bother arming each soldier with a pistol when they could effectively give an extra magazine or two to them for their issued rifles...
So pistols are mostly issued to lower echelon officers and certain specialised roles etc as a personal weapon, rather than an active sidearm like in the western-ised forces etc...
Alternatively they offer MP-9 and Micro-Uzi style weapons to certain roles that might require a personal weapon that's above pistol level etc...

This scenario isn't so positive for ARDE or OFB etc to upgrade existing Pistol Auto 9mm 1A or offer a new design,
Armed Forces going to get some limited no.s. from them, and if they need something more ;modern; there already exist tonnes of designs in the ;free market; etc...

So yeah...

 

[Love Charger]

Well the thing is, Army itself sees no much usability in pistols,
like their POV is, pistols are mostly useless in active combat, serve as a backup-ish weapon etc so why bother arming each soldier with a pistol when they could effectively give an extra magazine or two to them for their issued rifles...
So pistols are mostly issued to lower echelon officers and certain specialised roles etc as a personal weapon, rather than an active sidearm like in the western-ised forces etc...
Alternatively they offer MP-9 and Micro-Uzi style weapons to certain roles that might require a personal weapon that's above pistol level etc...

This scenario isn't so positive for ARDE or OFB etc to upgrade existing Pistol Auto 9mm 1A or offer a new design,
Armed Forces going to get some limited no.s. from them, and if they need something more ;modern; there already exist tonnes of designs in the ;free market; etc...

So yeah...

The size of indian army is humongous

 

[SGOperative]

Well the thing is, Army itself sees no much usability in pistols,
like their POV is, pistols are mostly useless in active combat, serve as a backup-ish weapon etc so why bother arming each soldier with a pistol when they could effectively give an extra magazine or two to them for their issued rifles...
So pistols are mostly issued to lower echelon officers and certain specialised roles etc as a personal weapon, rather than an active sidearm like in the western-ised forces etc...
Alternatively they offer MP-9 and Micro-Uzi style weapons to certain roles that might require a personal weapon that's above pistol level etc...

This scenario isn't so positive for ARDE or OFB etc to upgrade existing Pistol Auto 9mm 1A or offer a new design,
Armed Forces going to get some limited no.s. from them, and if they need something more ;modern; there already exist tonnes of designs in the ;free market; etc...

So yeah...

Giving side arms is more of a European phenomenon.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Whitecollar]

Well the thing is, Army itself sees no much usability in pistols,
like their POV is, pistols are mostly useless in active combat, serve as a backup-ish weapon etc so why bother arming each soldier with a pistol when they could effectively give an extra magazine or two to them for their issued rifles...
So pistols are mostly issued to lower echelon officers and certain specialised roles etc as a personal weapon, rather than an active sidearm like in the western-ised forces etc...
Alternatively they offer MP-9 and Micro-Uzi style weapons to certain roles that might require a personal weapon that's above pistol level etc...

This scenario isn't so positive for ARDE or OFB etc to upgrade existing Pistol Auto 9mm 1A or offer a new design,
Armed Forces going to get some limited no.s. from them, and if they need something more ;modern; there already exist tonnes of designs in the ;free market; etc...

So yeah...

If you see the way IA have based their calibers on(7.62 NATO and 7.62x39), it again proves we don't need to arm every soldier with a pistol. Max probability of a war always lies at LOC compared to LAC...and with these calibers, IA has estabilished ammo commonality with Pak Army. So you mow down and use enemy's ammo going forward.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[Whitecollar]

Avtomat Nindanikov 47

 

[MisraZ]

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Avtomat Nindanikov 47

30 rounds of kadi ninda

 

[another_armchair]

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These are serious force multipliers at section level. Hope they live up to the expectations in live combat.

 

[Whitecollar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GJ0Cb3bL_x0?feature=share

Now that we're going for 7.62x39 as std caliber, I pray to God IA troops are taught better firing techniques with recoil control.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

 

[another_armchair]

They Protect The Motherland At 7,000 Feet

Glimpses of how the Indian Army's incomparable Army soldiers patrol the Line of Control near Poonch at an altitude of 7,000 feet in thick snow.

www.rediff.com

Looks like Negev's finally making it to the frontline. Mogambo khush hua!

 

[Kuldeepm952]

They Protect The Motherland At 7,000 Feet

Glimpses of how the Indian Army's incomparable Army soldiers patrol the Line of Control near Poonch at an altitude of 7,000 feet in thick snow.

www.rediff.com

Looks like Negev's finally making it to the frontline. Mogambo khush hua!

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What a baddie this gun is, now just make it the official standard issue lmg of IA

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Video has NG7 as well

 

[Spadex]

Nachoo