Raymond Davis saga in Pakistan

[nitesh]

Diyat or blood money pay up story is just for public consumption.What is to be paid attention to is what was agreed between cia and isi in oman meeting.And if past trends to go by like that of after 1992 mumbai blasts. or 1999 plane hijacking or 2002 parliament attack or 26/11 it was always the isi which had the last laugh.Dawood still at large running mumbai mafia with active help from isi even in 2011 from outside,IA plane hijackers are still roaming free along with Azhar masood.less said about parliament attack the better.and the way 26/11 cases are proceeding i dont in pakistan will soon wrrigle out of it too.and check out how usa made india to pay for all this instead of pakistan paying up all pressure was on india as wikileaks reports suggests.Remember it was in 2009 when pak accepted kasab was pakistani but it successfully able to move all the blame away from PA/ISI.And till date it never accepted other 9 were pakistanis.Hafiz saeed is free as usual.And L-e-t running its business as usual with punjab govt openly giving fund to it from its budget.

People in india will come to know with in next 2-3 years about how usa sold out indian concerns in oman meet between CIA and ISI.

So as long as India is some how getting hurt, people of pakistan (oops army and ISI )are happy.

 

[JBH22]

Diyat or blood money pay up story is just for public consumption.What is to be paid attention to is what was agreed between cia and isi in oman meeting.And if past trends to go by like that of after 1992 mumbai blasts. or 1999 plane hijacking or 2002 parliament attack or 26/11 it was always the isi which had the last laugh.Dawood still at large running mumbai mafia with active help from isi even in 2011 from outside,IA plane hijackers are still roaming free along with Azhar masood.less said about parliament attack the better.and the way 26/11 cases are proceeding i dont in pakistan will soon wrrigle out of it too.and check out how usa made india to pay for all this instead of pakistan paying up all pressure was on india as wikileaks reports suggests.Remember it was in 2009 when pak accepted kasab was pakistani but it successfully able to move all the blame away from PA/ISI.And till date it never accepted other 9 were pakistanis.Hafiz saeed is free as usual.And L-e-t running its business as usual with punjab govt openly giving fund to it from its budget.

People in india will come to know with in next 2-3 years about how usa sold out indian concerns in oman meet between CIA and ISI.

Bottomline is that India is here Pakistan has only a nuisance value for us you can't do us much harm but then on and off Pakistan resort to terrorism which is the weapon of the weak to try and bleed us. On the brighter side is that Pakistan while digging hole for India fell into it,sooner they realise that its high time to stop becoming hostage to greater power and become pawns they are on auto destruction mode.

PSon't interrupt your enemy when he makes a mistake

 

[thakur_ritesh]

if you guys had followed najam sethi on the subject from day one, you would have known all that was transpiring behind the scenes. it was a given all that eventually happened and he was sharing the details from time to time of all that was expected to happen. this was a done deal almost a month back with the finer points written in last one week, but to gain brownie points the tamasha was dragged on to benefit a few, anyways sethi says isi did get what they attempted to do but in all this dramabazi done by the ruling elite (federal/provincial governments, isi/army - the main actors who were calling the shots and using the likes of imarn khan, religious parties and the media to tone up sentiments of the public), they made the pakistani state and its people look with an egg on their face, but in a sell out state who really cares about the image they build upon, isnt this a repeat of all that has been on display in pakistan for the past 63years.

anyways mr sethi raises an important point and that is, what happens to sm qureshi? poor he!

 

[ajtr]

So as long as India is some how getting hurt, people of pakistan (oops army and ISI )are happy.

wow holier than thou nitesh,, very well interpreted. but ur interpretation is based on ur mentality of celebrating every death in pakistan as to scoring run and so ur brain will think only in boolean terms either its run scored or its out there can not be any defensive shot.

 

[ajtr]

Bottomline is that India is here Pakistan has only a nuisance value for us you can't do us much harm but then on and off Pakistan resort to terrorism which is the weapon of the weak to try and bleed us. On the brighter side is that Pakistan while digging hole for India fell into it,sooner they realise that its high time to stop becoming hostage to greater power and become pawns they are on auto destruction mode.

PSon't interrupt your enemy when he makes a mistake

No bottomline is this.....The same pakistan which india had on its knees has grown into monster and regarding which indian rulers have run out of option and they are running like headless chickens to uncle to control this monster.But uncle has his own calculations which got mirred by the pakistan by trapping uncle in afghanistan.

 

[hit&run]

Pakistanis are going to defend this shameful saga with more conspiracy theories.

It was always better releasing him on diplomatic immunity than this dis-honour circus and further exposing their buffoonish justice system.

 

[Tronic]

Diyat or blood money pay up story is just for public consumption.What is to be paid attention to is what was agreed between cia and isi in oman meeting.And if past trends to go by like that of after 1992 mumbai blasts. or 1999 plane hijacking or 2002 parliament attack or 26/11 it was always the isi which had the last laugh.Dawood still at large running mumbai mafia with active help from isi even in 2011 from outside,IA plane hijackers are still roaming free along with Azhar masood.less said about parliament attack the better.and the way 26/11 cases are proceeding i dont in pakistan will soon wrrigle out of it too.and check out how usa made india to pay for all this instead of pakistan paying up all pressure was on india as wikileaks reports suggests.Remember it was in 2009 when pak accepted kasab was pakistani but it successfully able to move all the blame away from PA/ISI.And till date it never accepted other 9 were pakistanis.Hafiz saeed is free as usual.And L-e-t running its business as usual with punjab govt openly giving fund to it from its budget.

ajtr,

1992 Mumbai blasts, 1999 plane hijacking, 2002 Parliament attack, you may also add the 7/11 train bombings in 2006, 26/11. You remember these dates, the entire world remembers these dates. The 9 Pakistanis not accepted by Pakistan? The world has accepted that they are Pakistanis. It matters little to Indian interests whether Pakistan accepts them as theirs or not. Going by wikileaks cables, it already shows a huge distrust of the ISI which other nations have. Pakistan today is acknowledged as a worldwide terror factory. Indian victory.


Now, lets go back to a time where India too played some dirty games. Do you remember the 1990 Lahore and Multan blasts? Does the world remember? Balochistan? The Pak government has been trying to nail India for supporting the secessionist groups in that country. Any international pressure or labels Pakistan been able to build up against India? Not that I'm aware of. Indian victory.


Does India really care about Kasab or those 9 Pakistanis? Keeping the issue alive continues to display to the world what a terror breeding ground there exists across the border. There is a method and a purpose to India's constant protests to the international community.


So who is having the last laugh? It is surely not an agency whose headquarters keep getting bombed every few months. I can assure you that much.

People in india will come to know with in next 2-3 years about how usa sold out indian concerns in oman meet between CIA and ISI.

wat left unsaid is cia sell out of afghanistan and india.Wat i think is pakistan always wanted the greater say in afghanistan and whenever usa tried to go alone in AFPAK,ISI turned the table on CIA-like the arrests of Mullah Baradar last year.Sucide attack on CIA in afghanistan in which CIA head Spy-lady died.... I think Raymond davis case is also part of same game coz the two guys davis killed were isi sleuths.

We do not know what transpired in Oman. We can only come to assumptions at best. Though, one thing for you to keep in mind is that the US is not the only player in Afghanistan. Even if this means that the US goes from a confrontational stand against the ISI to a passive stand in Aghanistan; you've got the Iranians right next door handing Karzai a bag load of cash every once in a while. The game in Afghanistan has changed forever for the ISI.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

This episode is another deal making and covering up and also exchanging important proof about the pakistan supported terrorism against INDIA. This is happening for a long time, between pakistan and U.S. and we INDIANS are the ultimate loosers, pakistan on the other hand is getting away.

 

[nitesh]

wow holier than thou nitesh,, very well interpreted. but ur interpretation is based on ur mentality of celebrating every death in pakistan as to scoring run and so ur brain will think only in boolean terms either its run scored or its out there can not be any defensive shot.

Oh so my interpretation is based on my mentality, ok so can you explain what exactly has came out of this saga?

 

[nitesh]

This episode is another deal making and covering up and also exchanging important proof about the pakistan supported terrorism against INDIA. This is happening for a long time, between pakistan and U.S. and we INDIANS are the ultimate loosers, pakistan on the other hand is getting away.

If they daily blood bath happening is getting away then ........ well what else can be said.

 

[ajtr]

Oh so my interpretation is based on my mentality, ok so can you explain what exactly has came out of this saga?

I think u r intelligent enough to figure that out urself just by looking at how things have changed from 26/11 till date for india and for pakistan in whole of SA region.

 

[Blackwater]

Iam surprised those parents when interviewed by TV said we want blood in lieu of blood ,now they accept money. Poor pakistani bik gaye. Gari gari darama karte the.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Well pakistan is making money out off everything and they want more just to wage terror against INDIA. For this they are ready to do anything, they even are ready to give away the life of their loved ones for the sake of money or i am sure that this is another cover up by the pakistani government to get some kickbacks in exchange of RAYMOND DAVIS.

 

[nitesh]

I think u r intelligent enough to figure that out urself just by looking at how things have changed from 26/11 till date for india and for pakistan in whole of SA region.

I don't see any thing has changed on the ground, India talking is nothing, talks are cheap.

 

[ajtr]

ajtr,

1992 Mumbai blasts, 1999 plane hijacking, 2002 Parliament attack, you may also add the 7/11 train bombings in 2006, 26/11. You remember these dates, the entire world remembers these dates. The 9 Pakistanis not accepted by Pakistan? The world has accepted that they are Pakistanis. It matters little to Indian interests whether Pakistan accepts them as theirs or not. Going by wikileaks cables, it already shows a huge distrust of the ISI which other nations have. Pakistan today is acknowledged as a worldwide terror factory. Indian victory.

Using nomenclature is one thing.practically world is paying ransom money to ward off attacks in their own countries from terror factory.

Now, lets go back to a time where India too played some dirty games. Do you remember the 1990 Lahore and Multan blasts? Does the world remember? Balochistan? The Pak government has been trying to nail India for supporting the secessionist groups in that country. Any international pressure or labels Pakistan been able to build up against India? Not that I'm aware of. Indian victory.Does India really care about Kasab or those 9 Pakistanis? Keeping the issue alive continues to display to the world what a terror breeding ground there exists across the border. There is a method and a purpose to India's constant protests to the international community.


So who is having the last laugh? It is surely not an agency whose headquarters keep getting bombed every few months. I can assure you that much.

That was during khalistan movement time late eighties till it died down in 1990-91 period.it was time during ravjiv gandhi's rule for every transistor or toy bomb there used to be same response(remember those days too as child my parents used to warn not to pick any toys road side or in park.).1992 was master stroke escalation from toy bombs which used to claim single live to causalities in amounting in hundreds and then culprits running away successfully even running their empire in mumbai from outside.wat did india do for it???? muzzling the RAW during I.K.Gujaral rule which till date unable to recover.Where is the response for 1999 IA hijacking and ransom paid in millions. Parliament attacks and 26/11 proved nuke blackmail works as deterrent. So what u've here a GOI running to uncle crying everytime being slapped by ISI and uncle advising contrary to talk to the murderer to allowing it to act as judge.Who gave up most of the ground....S-s-S,Diluting stand on talks,terrorism,kashmir....yes u can guess its india which truly has lost its initiatives ib diplomacy.Real thing to worry about for india is that GOI is unable to protect its own citizen and Its totally directionless and powerless to punish the culprits. At no point usa gonna help india fight its own WOT.its india's war and it has to fight it alone.Quicker the GOI understand this better will be for its citizens

We do not know what transpired in Oman. We can only come to assumptions at best. Though, one thing for you to keep in mind is that the US is not the only player in Afghanistan. Even if this means that the US goes from a confrontational stand against the ISI to a passive stand in Aghanistan; you've got the Iranians right next door handing Karzai a bag load of cash every once in a while. The game in Afghanistan has changed forever for the ISI.

If past is anything to go by then assumptions are very dreadful.

 

[ajtr]

I don't see any thing has changed on the ground, India talking is nothing, talks are cheap.

sure india too cant talk about the diyat then for 170 odd killed in mumbai.You still unable to see where india has lost initiative after having everything in its favour.Today u've a situation if u talk about justice for mumbai they are talking about justice for samjhauta.so sure talks are cheap for nothing to show on court cases in lahore.

 

[sayareakd]

pakistan have already sold their country for $$$$ you can get anything from pakistan for $$$$

 

[nitesh]

sure India too cant talk about the diyat then for 170 odd killed in mumbai.You still unable to see where india has lost initiative after having everything in its favour.Today u've a situation if u talk about justice for mumbai they are talking about justice for samjhauta.so sure talks are cheap for nothing to show on court cases in lahore.

India is not a rent boy like pakistan, the point is India has made pakistan irrelevant. pakistan tries to extract concession with respect to India by where is pakistan people in to this? do they get any benefit out of this? India whereas keeps building it's muscles and economy.

What exactly pakistan has got out of this saga? Any thing to show off

 

[A.V.]

[hl] please maintain quality in posting all members.

thank you[/hl]

 

[Param]

Then try buying it out and prove it.Pakistan has sense of entitlement on india and india can never buy it.the indian money is taken as entitlement not as alm.this entitlement arises from the fact etched in brain being actual ruler of india which was snatched from them.

Actual ruler of India? Remember you people don't even belong to the subcontinent. Wow! these invaders who looted and plundered our land from us centuries ago call themselves actual rulers.