Race between Jf17 block 3 v Tejas mark1a,

[HariPrasad-1]

It's not... Block1 is essentially equivalent to Tejas IOC standard, but Block 2 & 3 are definitely not as "junky" as Indians like to tell themselves.

Has engine improved in Block -III?
Any Aerodynamics Improvement? Is it a high Composite like Tejas? Radar, Targeting pod and few weapons are added. All these are substandard compared to EL 2052 and Uttam and Indian IFRTS and targeting pod.

 

[Bleh]

Has engine improved in Block -III?
Any Aerodynamics Improvement? Is it a high Composite like Tejas? Radar, Targeting pod and few weapons are added. All these are substandard compared to EL 2052 and Uttam and Indian IFRTS and targeting pod.

Mark1A may be better than Block3, depending of how much weight reduction & engine improvement is done... I'm taking about right now, between FOC & Block2 in service.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Quite a few actually. Go & watch. It has a sweet spot, at such speed it outperforms Tejas.



Yes. Only Python-5 is ahead of it... FOC Tejas has no glide bombs right now, but Blk2 has them as well as AShM.. Plus I just wrote that all Chinese BVR missiles are based on Derby design they bought from Israel. They are similar.

All Chinse planes are based on Sukhois. All Chinese HQ are based on S300 and S400, J10 is a Lavi design, J 31 is copied F35? Where are they in Comparison?

 

[Bleh]

All Chinse planes are based on Sukhois. All Chinese HQ are based on S300 and S400, J10 is a Lavi design, J 31 is copied F35? Where are they in Comparison?

Samajh gaye..

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Mark1A may be better than Block3, depending of how much weight reduction & engine improvement is done... I'm taking about right now, between FOC & Block2 in service.

Even without weight reduction, Tejas Mk1 is also much better. Is Blk III is going to get any new engine? If not, How its performance will improve?

 

[Bleh]

Even without weight reduction, Tejas Mk1 is also much better. Is Blk III is going to get any new engine? If now, How its performance will improve?

Nope.

Actually Jf-17 Block2 probably also has jammer & an IRST pod options. FOC Tejas has neither... Dekho ji, I like gloating about Tejas too, but best not do it to retarded levels.

Blk3 might get upgrade engines, the 95kN RD-93. But not fully confirmed about progress as of now. Then it'll again go ahead of Tejas performance wise. It's platform is essentially between Tejas Mark1A & Mark2. Only after 2022 will we go completely ahead of them.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

In Bahrain, Tejas took a vertical climb for over 10 second after take off. Can JF 17 do that?
Tejas took a vertical loop in 19 second. Can JF 17 do that?

There are many aerodynamic changes are done in MK1A. It will find improved air intake weight reduction etc. Is there any such change in JF 17?

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Nope.

Actually Jf-17 Block2 probably also has jammer & an IRST pod options. FOC Tejas has neither... Dekho ji, I like gloating about Tejas too, but best not do it to retarded levels.

Blk3 might get upgrade engines, the 95kN RD-93. But not fully confirmed about progress as of now. Then it'll again go ahead of Tejas performance wise. It's platform is essentially between Tejas Mark1A & Mark2. Only after 2022 will we go completely ahead of them.

Which 95 KN RD -93? Even if it does, Tejas' T/W ratio will remain ahead.

 

[Bleh]

In Bahrain, Tejas took a vertical climb for over 10 second after take off. Can JF 17 do that?
Tejas took a vertical loop in 19 second. Can JF 17 do that?

Nobody implied Jf-17 does everything better than Tejas.. Please don't act like e did

There are many aerodynamic changes are done in MK1A. It will find improved air intake weight reduction etc. Is there any such change in JF 17?

Why don't you read what being said.. All these are answered above.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Actually Jf-17 Block2 probably also has jammer & an IRST pod options. FOC Tejas has neither.

It is coming in BLK III. Blk II are inducted in big numbers. I have not seen them in any of BLK II. If they have as you say. Please post the information if you have.

 

[Bleh]

It is coming in BLK III. Blk II are inducted in big numbers. I have not seen them in any of BLK II. If they have as you say. Please post the information if you have.

I definitely don't have concrete info, which is why I said probably.. Both pods were seen on a Paki jet I think & they don't have any Block3 there.

Which 95 KN RD -93? Even if it does, Tejas' T/W ratio will remain ahead.

Again wrong!.. Tejas now weighs 7040kg empty, that's larger than Jf-17's 6800kg.

If it really gets 95kN engines, compared to LCA's 89kN you should be able to tell which will have more T/W.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I definitely don't have concrete info, which is why I said probably.. Both pods were seen on a Paki jet I think & they don't have any Block3 there.



Again wrong!.. Tejas now weighs 7040kg empty, that's larger than Jf-17's 6800kg.

If it really gets 95kN engines, compared to LCA's 89kN you should be able to tell which will have more T/W.

You Do not have concrete information than why do you make the claim particularly when you make the comparisons. Just search and confirm. Tejas has a weight of 6560 KG. What made it 500 kg heavier? Please let me know. I have no information of Weight of tejas going up by 500 KG. If it does, Payload carrying of tejas will Reduce by 500 Kg. I have not heard that. Please enlighten me.

Please also enlighten me about 95 KN engine as well. I have heard only roomers. I have not read anything about 95 KN engine from any reliable source. Please enlighten me about that as well.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Nobody implied Jf-17 does everything better than Tejas.. Please don't act like e did



Why don't you read what being said.. All these are answered above.

It is you who claimed that. You asked me to watch videos. I did not find any one.

Where is it being said? I could not find.

 

[Bleh]

You Do not have concrete information than why do you make the claim particularly when you make the comparisons. Just search and confirm. Tejas has a weight of 6560 KG. What made it 500 kg heavier? Please let me know. I have no information of Weight of tejas going up by 500 KG. If it does, Payload carrying of tejas will Reduce by 500 Kg. I have not heard that. Please enlighten me.

Please also enlighten me about 95 KN engine as well. I have heard only roomers. I have not read anything about 95 KN engine from any reliable source. Please enlighten me about that as well.

Ofcourse you don't know.. No I think I've had enough of this. I've made my points clear.

Those who do know, will understand what I'm meaning.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Ofcourse you don't..

And this how you discuss and debate. You can not provide any reference to any of your claim and yet you write everything, Make comparison and reach conclusion.

 

[Vamsi]

Nope.

Actually Jf-17 Block2 probably also has jammer & an IRST pod options. FOC Tejas has neither... Dekho ji, I like gloating about Tejas too, but best not do it to retarded levels.

Blk3 might get upgrade engines, the 95kN RD-93. But not fully confirmed about progress as of now. Then it'll again go ahead of Tejas performance wise. It's platform is essentially between Tejas Mark1A & Mark2. Only after 2022 will we go completely ahead of them.

Once HVT sir said that FOC got jammer

 

[Bleh]

Once HVT sir said that FOC got jammer

Yeah, that'd be great if it is... Presently we have seen it on tho.

 

[Bleh]

And this how you discuss and debate. You can not provide any reference to any of your claim and yet you write everything, Make comparison and reach conclusion.

Ya I have to tell you a lot of things... And you the ADA brochures, share FC-1 weaponary.

Too much work.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Ya I have to tell you a lot of things... And you the ADA brochures, share FC-1 weaponary.

Too much work.

Who stops you to tell those lots of things to me?

 

[Ghost hale]

Has engine improved in Block -III?

Yes. RD-93 MA.

Any Aerodynamics Improvement?

Composites added. reduction in weight. U guess.

Is it a high Composite like Tejas?

Composite, yes. More than tejas. No.

Radar, Targeting pod and few weapons are added. All these are substandard compared to EL 2052 and Uttam and Indian IFRTS and targeting pod.

Substandard? For a guy such a fan of sources, u urself didn't gave any.

No one is claiming, JF 17 block 3 is earth shattering but try keeping realistic look on everything. Its not as shitty as u claim.
@Bleh I understand u bro. I myself is quite lazy to compile all these long posts.