Pulwama Terror Attack On CRPF Convoy

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Sikhbrah

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Just for the sake of conversation

Porky Punjab as a independent nation next to Indian Punjab is a serious invitation to stronger khalistan movement.

Also It's effect will be same as what happened after creation of Bangladesh ie change of demographics of West Bengal and NE , basically we ended up on the losing side in the long term. Heard of Pyrrhic victory ?

Only solution is culling of existing porky population in areas adjoining India or relocating them to areas adjoining other countries like Iran or Afghanistan.
I was just thinking the same.

Having a Paki state named “Punjab” right beside our Indian Punjab is an invitation for trouble.

Give them another name, brainwash then to leave the hate cult practice and make them our vessel state (essentially make them another Nepal) would work a lot better long term.
 

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Are you sitting with them? Stop behaving like a hysterical kid who is high on glucose.
Do you think Modi woke up today and decided to Take Revenge

Yesterday itself he talked to NSA Doval
About our Response

Who in turn took up from there with the Service Chiefs
 

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I was just thinking the same.

Having a Paki state named “Punjab” right beside our Indian Punjab is an invitation for trouble.

Give them another name, brainwash then to leave the hate cult practice and make them our vessel state (essentially make them another Nepal) would work a lot better long term.
Best option shift half population into other areas and relocate Indians into the vacated areas

Vassal state = a snake
You never know when it will strike or how it will strike.

The reality is all this won't happen under existing democratic conditions prevailing in India.

Only way is the emergence of a Indian deep state which will have all the motivation and importantly stake in the financial profits to be had from persuing such risky endeavours.

After all the simplest reason for existence of all nations , the break up of all nations , the prime motive behind anything under the sun is money aka profits short term or long term.

That's the naked reality

US engages in war because not for its loft ideals but because of profits to made

This started from WW1 when they first utilized it to overcome the great depression and has continued till date.

Yesterday I came across this post in another thread

Much to your surprise, Most of us Indians are too self-centred for this. Tell me something, do you really think that the instagram snapchat (INSN) crowd of India is ready to redirect its resources for war? My foot.

Currently since India is an import-oriented nation, there is almost no benefit in wars. Once we start making and using our own weapons where every war will actually benefit the country, we will become an offensive nation.

Sadly, the government's bureaucrats are a bigger threat to India rather than the Pakistanis or Chinese themselves.

They have too much of smokescreen to hide behind and must be made ruthlessly accountable with unforgiving punishments for delays on matters pertaining to defence.
The guy IMO summed it up beautifully in a few words.

Currently since India is an import-oriented nation, there is almost no benefit in wars. Once we start making and using our own weapons where every war will actually benefit the country, we will become an offensive nation
Gentlemen and ladies many might not agree but that's the harsh reality IMO

Ok bye now
 

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Modi is making the right sounds and he will take revenge.

But the larger question is what happens after Modi or Modi is not there in the equation?

The lack of automated response, the non-negotiable policy that comes into play after such attacks are missing or heavily dependent on political decisions making.

The Indian security establishment and polity have to come out of crooked Nehruvian political power insecurities and they must create credible provisions; if possible a constitutional framework for much larger tactical and operational independence enabling forces to activate a response with minimum possible attrition assured at the very start followed by a much larger response if required.

How hard it is to categorized such attacks, statute response listing different types of targets inside and outside India's borders?
 

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Do you think Modi woke up today and decided to Take Revenge

Yesterday itself he talked to NSA Doval
About our Response

Who in turn took up from there with the Service Chiefs
Did you tap their phone and listened to the conversation?
 

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Bro,dis isn't time for jokes. Imagine d pressure on service chiefs,when our PM has warned twice of hard response frm our side. Pls don't mock our COS. They r over there to avenge our brothers.
Dude, what will the navy chief do as well as the Air force chief? Be realistic, our politicians tend to say a lot but how much of that has actually translated into action.
 

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Dude, what will the navy chief do as well as the Air force chief? Be realistic, our politicians tend to say a lot but how much of that has actually translated into action.
Military of every country has plans, counter plans and backup plans.
It's not like these generals are huddling in a room coming up with plans.

Plans already exist, all that needs now is the political will and logistics.
 

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As I feared people have started talking about everything and anything.

USA
Import weapons
China
Indus water treaty
Missiles,
Nukes
Surgical Strikes
Blah blah blah.


This is a fucking terror attack, an act of terror and it must be dealt with anti-terror methods. (26/11 was not a terror attack but a strategic strike)

If anyone who wants to hear from me, how anti-terror methods can be most brutal and hell raising then I am all happy to detail them. But for god sake keep things simple. At least read some good books, leave alone India's record how it has dealt with it in past, read how many nations including Canada has ended terrorism to no return.

Please understand that all the Pakistani rants and so-called oppression in Kashmir is a Randi Rona when they all know India has done nothing as compare to what they have done inside Pakistan against Pakistanis.

Modi has continued with same defensive liberal congress-I's sikular approach in Kashmir. Probably Modi's advisors on Kashmir are same Baboons who start talking about the relationship with Muslim nations at every drop of the hat.

The root cause of this never-ending terror problem in Kashmir is in India's thankless Muslim pleasing defensiveness.

Keep fooling yourselves with every other possibility and scenarios. It is a free world.
 

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Dude, what will the navy chief do as well as the Air force chief? Be realistic, our politicians tend to say a lot but how much of that has actually translated into action.
As much vexed everybody are, vis-a-vis d politicians. If our response doesn't seem satisfactory,then we can blabber all day abusing them. Now let us only talk abt latest happenings and wat our strategies wd be.
 

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Modi is making the right sounds and he will take revenge.

But the larger question is what happens after Modi or Modi is not there in the equation?

The lack of automated response, the non-negotiable policy that comes into play after such attacks are missing or heavily dependent on political decisions making.

The Indian security establishment and polity have to come out of crooked Nehruvian political power insecurities and they must create credible provisions; if possible a constitutional framework for much larger tactical and operational independence enabling forces to activate a response with minimum possible attrition assured at the very start followed by a much larger response if required.

How hard it is to categorized such attacks, statute response listing different types of targets inside and outside India's borders?
It exists

but thing is model of stimulated responses and expected counter responses are static and not fluid ie one will need time to conform them real time taking into account the dynamic changing current events.

All this takes some time to conform after a incident happens and needs to be updated real time. Because whole set of events changes and which in turn changes the expected future events.

I was reading few days ago a government document on India's response to nuclear strike , it was full of mathematical models and calculations but in the end personally I was disappointed .

If I was disappointed , going by the comments posted by many guys here , most of those guys will be crying lolzzz

But then in the fog of war all rules go to shit , personally I am hoping / banking on that but then it is a foolish thing to hope
 
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India will lose and not China, we need them and not the other way around.
They got the upper hand, not made us irrelevant and particularly are bolder because we have Pakistan to contain us in our neighbor.
 

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I never understand why we always talk of war or invasion or surgical strikes? It is well known land based strikes are very risky due to MAD. Why don't ever think of punitive measures in air or water such as a naval blockade of Karachi or full mobilisation by IAF to obtain air superiority over PAF defences? The Atlantique episode is a case in point. PAF and PN have no offensive capabilities. This would result in much more destruction and deaths of Pakistanis than 44 soldiers of ours that they killed yesterday. Also, air strikes from the way of Afghanistan/Tajikistan should be considered.
 
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