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[darkflame]

Hey Yusuf wanna say you something fuuuck you

 

[Bigshot]

Hey Yusuf wanna say you something fuuuck you

Wdym bro?

 

[Super Flanker]

Hey Yusuf wanna say you something fuuuck you

Wdym bro?

Looks like before DFI itself gets shut down, the fellow administrators here will send @darkflame to Tihar Jail the first thing. Rehne dhe Bhai ko.

 

[JohnWick]

Well it has been an honor gentleman and ladies, fuck I don't even know what to say.
It's really sad to see this forum go. I've learned so much and met some amazing people here. Thanks to everyone who made this place special and for all the great memories. You'll all be missed!

JAI HIND!

 

[Azaad]

For the benefit of those who are contemplating about making new forum(s),

Your cost wont be limited to paying for server, hosting, storage and making do with a bunch of volunteers.The laws are such that you will need paid expert services and paid staff for compliances.

Don’t assume that anyone - owner, admins, mods will be able to pass the buck. You can assume that you are too small for anyone to get after you. But that’s a strategy of hope. WhatsApp admins have been put behind bars for what others have posted. And WhatsApp is not as public as forums.

Remember it’s not just the gvt. Anyone can walk to the police station of a friendly state gvt and file an FIR. You may say you are not in the wrong. But remember in our justice system, the process is the punishment. If you think hosting in foreign location will be a way out, the gvt has long arms, various tools and they can block sites.

Stay calm and think before sinking any money in the midst of pumping adrenaline. It’s not a one time thing, but recurring. People committing money today will tire out sometime. It’s a tribute to Singh that he sustained this place for 15 years on his own.

Will end by extending good luck to those who do want to get going with a new forum.

For their benefit, below are excerpts from the laws regarding intermediaries which forums such as DFI are.

Cheers
Jai Hind!

DUE DILIGENCE BY INTERMEDIARIES AND GRIEVANCE REDRESSAL MECHANISM

3. (1) Due diligence by an intermediary: An intermediary, including [social media intermediary, significant social media intermediary and online gaming intermediary]1, shall observe the following due diligence while discharging its duties, namely:—
2[(a) the intermediary shall prominently publish on its website, mobile based application or both, as the case may be, the rules and regulations, privacy policy and user agreement in English or any language specified in the Eighth Schedule to the Constitution for access or usage of its computer resource by any person in the language of his choice and ensure compliance of the same;
(b) the intermediary shall inform its rules and regulations, privacy policy and user agreement to the user in English or any language specified in the Eighth Schedule to the Constitution in the language of his choice and shall make reasonable efforts to cause the user of its computer resource not to host, display, upload, modify, publish, transmit, store, update or share any information that,—
(i) belongs to another person and to which the user does not have any right;
(ii) is obscene, pornographic, paedophilic, invasive of another’s privacy including bodily privacy, insulting or harassing on the basis of gender, racially or ethnically objectionable, relating or encouraging money laundering or gambling, or promoting enmity between different groups on the grounds of religion or caste with the intent to incite violence;
(iii) is harmful to child;
(iv) infringes any patent, trademark, copyright or other proprietary rights;
(v) deceives or misleads the addressee about the origin of the message or knowingly and intentionally communicates any misinformation or information which is patently false and untrue or misleading in nature 1[or is identified as fake or false by the fact check unit at the Press Information Bureau of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting or other agency authorised by the Central Government for fact checking or, in respect of any business of the Central Government, by its department in which such business is transacted under the rules of business made under clause (3) of article 77 of the Constitution];
(vi) impersonates another person;
(vii) threatens the unity, integrity, defence, security or sovereignty of India, friendly relations with foreign States, or public order, or causes incitement to the commission of any cognisable offence, or prevents investigation of any offence, or is insulting other nation;
(viii) contains software virus or any other computer code, file or program designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer resource;
(c) an intermediary shall periodically inform its users, at least once every year, that in case of non-compliance with rules and regulations, privacy policy or user agreement for access or usage of the computer resource of such intermediary, it has the right to terminate the access or usage rights of the users to the computer resource immediately or remove non-compliant information or both, as the case may be;
(d) an intermediary, on whose computer resource the information is stored, hosted or published, upon receiving actual knowledge in the form of an order by a court of competent jurisdiction or on being notified by the Appropriate Government or its agency under clause (b) of sub-section (3) of section 79 of the Act, shall not host, store or publish any unlawful information, which is prohibited under any law for the time being in force in relation to the interest of the sovereignty and integrity of India; security of the State; friendly relations with foreign States; public order; decency or morality; in relation to contempt of court; defamation; incitement to an offence relating to the above, or any information which is prohibited under any law for the time being in force:
Provided that any notification made by the Appropriate Government or its agency in relation to any information which is prohibited under any law for the time being in force shall be issued by an authorised agency, as may be notified by the Appropriate Government:
Provided further that if any such information is hosted, stored or published, the intermediary shall remove or disable access to that information, as early as possible, but in no case later than thirty-six hours from the receipt of the court order or on being notified by the Appropriate Government or its agency, as the case may be:
Provided also that the removal or disabling of access to any information, data or communication link within the categories of information specified under this clause, under clause (b) on a voluntary basis, or on the basis of grievances received under sub-rule (2) by such intermediary, shall not amount to a violation of the conditions of clauses (a) or (b) of sub-section (2) of section 79 of the Act;
(e) the temporary or transient or intermediate storage of information automatically by an intermediary in a computer resource within its control as an intrinsic feature of that computer resource, involving no exercise of any human, automated or algorithmic editorial control for onward transmission or communication to another computer resource shall not amount to hosting, storing or publishing any information referred to under clause (d);
1[(f) the intermediary shall periodically, and at least once in a year, inform its users in English or any language specified in the Eighth Schedule to the Constitution in the language of his choice of its rules and regulations, privacy policy or user agreement or any change in the rules and regulations, privacy policy or user agreement, as the case may be;]
(g) where upon receiving actual knowledge under clause (d), on a voluntary basis on violation of clause (b), or on the basis of grievances received under sub-rule (2), any information has been removed or access to which has been disabled, the intermediary shall, without vitiating the evidence in any manner, preserve such information and associated records for one hundred and eighty days for investigation purposes, or for such longer period as may be required by the court or by Government agencies who are lawfully authorised;
(h) where an intermediary collects information from a user for registration on the computer resource, it shall retain his information for a period of one hundred and eighty days after any cancellation or withdrawal of his registration, as the case may be;
(i) the intermediary shall take all reasonable measures to secure its computer resource and information contained therein following the reasonable security practices and procedures as prescribed in the Information Technology (Reasonable Security Practices and Procedures and Sensitive Personal Information) Rules, 2011;
(j) the intermediary shall, as soon as possible, but not later than seventy two hours of the receipt of an order, provide information under its control or possession, or assistance to the Government agency which is lawfully authorised for investigative or protective or cyber security activities, for the purposes of verification of identity, or for the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution, of offences under any law for the time being in force, or for cyber security incidents:
Provided that any such order shall be in writing stating clearly the purpose of seeking information or assistance, as the case may be;
(k) the intermediary shall not knowingly deploy or install or modify technical configuration of computer resource or become party to any act that may change or has the potential to change the normal course of operation of the computer resource than what it is supposed to perform thereby circumventing any law for the time being in force:
Provided that the intermediary may develop, produce, distribute or employ technological means for the purpose of performing the acts of securing the computer resource and information contained therein;
(l) the intermediary shall report cyber security incidents and share related information with the Indian Computer Emergency Response Team in accordance with the policies and procedures as mentioned in the Information Technology (The Indian Computer Emergency Response Team and Manner of Performing Functions and Duties) Rules, 2013.
1[(m) the intermediary shall take all reasonable measures to ensure accessibility of its services to users along with reasonable expectation of due diligence, privacy and transparency;]

3[(n) the intermediary shall respect all the rights accorded to the citizens under the Constitution, including in the articles 14, 19 and 21.]
(2) Grievance redressal mechanism of intermediary: (a)The intermediary shall prominently publish on its website, mobile based application or both, as the case may be, the name of the Grievance Officer and his contact details as well as mechanism by which a user or a victim may make complaint against violation of the provisions of this rule or any other matters pertaining to the computer resources made available by it, and the Grievance Officer shall-
4[(i) acknowledge the complaint within twenty-four hours and resolve such complaint within a period of fifteen days from the date of its receipt:
Provided that the complaint in the nature of request for removal of information or communication link relating to clause (b) of sub-rule (1) of rule 3, except sub-clauses (i), (iv) and (ix), shall be acted upon as expeditiously as possible and shall be resolved within seventy-two hours of such reporting;
Provided further that appropriate safeguards may be developed by the intermediary to avoid any misuse by users;]
(ii) receive and acknowledge any order, notice or direction issued by the Appropriate Government, any competent authority or a court of competent jurisdiction.
(b) The intermediary shall, within twenty-four hours from the receipt of a complaint made by an individual or any person on his behalf under this sub-rule, in relation to any content which is prima facie in the nature of any material which exposes the private area of such individual, shows such individual in full or partial nudity or shows or depicts such individual in any sexual act or conduct, or is in the nature of impersonation in an electronic form, including artificially morphed images of such individual, take all reasonable and practicable measures to remove or disable access to such content which is hosted, stored, published or transmitted by it:
(c) The intermediary shall implement a mechanism for the receipt of complaints under clause (b) of this sub-rule which may enable the individual or person to provide details, as may be necessary, in relation to such content or communication link.

5. Additional due diligence to be observed by an intermediary in relation to news and current affairs content.—In addition to adherence to rules 3 and 4, as may be applicable, an intermediary shall publish, on an appropriate place on its website, mobile based application or both, as the case may be, a clear and concise statement informing publishers of news and current affairs content that in addition to the common terms of service for all users, such publishers shall furnish the details of their user accounts on the services of such intermediary to the Ministry as may be required under rule 18:

6. Notification of other intermediary.—(1) The Ministry may by order, for reasons to be recorded in writing, require any intermediary, which is not a significant social media intermediary, to comply with all or any of the obligations mentioned under rule 4, if the services of that intermediary permits the publication or transmission of information in a manner that may create a material risk of harm to the sovereignty and integrity of India, security of the State, friendly relations with foreign States or public order.
(2) The assessment of material risk of harm referred to in sub-rule (1) shall be made having regard to the nature of services of such intermediary, and if those services permit,—
(a) interaction between users, notwithstanding, whether it is the primary purpose of that intermediary; and
(b) the publication or transmission of information to a significant number of other users as would be likely to result in widespread dissemination of such information.
(3) An order under this rule may be issued in relation to a specific part of the computer resources of any website, mobile based application or both, as the case may be, if such specific part is in the nature of an intermediary:
Provided that where such order is issued, an entity may be required to comply with all or any of the obligations mentions under rule 4, in relation to the specific part of its computer resource which is in the nature of an intermediary.

**7. Non-observance of Rules.—Where an intermediary fails to observe these rules, the provisions of sub-section (1) of section 79 of the Act shall not be applicable to such intermediary and the intermediary shall be liable for punishment under any law for the time being in force including the provisions of the Act and the Indian Penal Code.**

To all those interested these rules & regulations are under the IT Act 2000 & various amendments to it from 2000-2022/23 . They've been in existence, in some cases, as in this Act itself from much before DFI came into existence although the intermediary & grievances redressal mechanism was brought in thru amendments to the Act between 2020-23 .

The present state of alarm among the existing owners & administration seems to be the coming into effect of 3 new laws from 1st July 2024. There is substance in their views even if there's more alarm than sober appreciation of the situation but it's their opinion, they're entitled to it & more to the point it's THEIR SITE.

Let's appreciate their gesture in permitting others to use it while they themselves ceased being engaged with the site on a day to day basis , footed the bill for it nonetheless with presumably little to nothing by way of monetary compensation just to help fellow defense aficionados gain / retain a platform to exchange views & at times vent out.

That's something kids brought up in some amount of luxury who feel entitled to vent what they think they're entitled to while themselves leading a cocooned existence courtesy their parents, like what @darkflame has given an example of , ought to bear in mind . Also gives a glimpse into their upbringing.

To conclude there will always be risks in spite of all the precautions we take but we don't stop using automobiles or crossing the road do we?

It's the end of an era & the beginning of a new one.

DFI is dead! Long live DFI !!

 

[arnabmit]

@Yusuf @LurkerBaba @Daredevil @ezsasa @LETHALFORCE @hit&run @Indx TechStyle I don't know how, but if possible, please backup and save the story thread by Brig. Ray. Such gems should not be lost. Maybe a static page can be hosted as a memoriam.

Rum, Bum and Mouthorgan and other Indian Army stories

Op Vijay and the Feathered Battle Casualty 'Operation Vijay' had just started. 8 Mountain Division had been inducted in the Dras - Mushko sector. Part of the Division was still in the Valley. The war in Kargil was crystallising and the logistic support was in its infancy. Everything...

defenceforumindia.com

 

[Crazywithmath]

@Yusuf @LurkerBaba @Daredevil @ezsasa @LETHALFORCE @hit&run @Indx TechStyle I don't know how, but if possible, please backup and save the story thread by Brig. Ray. Such gems should not be lost. Maybe a static page can be hosted as a memoriam.

Rum, Bum and Mouthorgan and other Indian Army stories

Op Vijay and the Feathered Battle Casualty 'Operation Vijay' had just started. 8 Mountain Division had been inducted in the Dras - Mushko sector. Part of the Division was still in the Valley. The war in Kargil was crystallising and the logistic support was in its infancy. Everything...

defenceforumindia.com

Thread archived at;

Rum, Bum and Mouthorgan and other Indian Army stories

Op Vijay and the Feathered Battle Casualty 'Operation Vijay' had just started. 8 Mountain Division had been inducted in the Dras - Mushko sector. Part of the Division was still in the Valley. The war in Kargil was crystallising and the logistic support was in its infancy. Everything...

web.archive.org

 

[Mr.Evil007]

Goodbye lads it was an honour sharing this platform with you lot thanks
Jai Hind🫡

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Thanks for memories guys.

A good 9 years was quite long period of companionship and will be remembered till death even though I don't personally know most of you.


Cheers
And thanks for memories.

 

[porky_kicker]

Thank you everyone

Good luck to you all

 

[JBH22]

Thank you all and Good luck guys.
Keep yourself updated, never lose interest in geo politics, it is a very interesting topic.
Just too bad we will have to revert on two cents you tube videos to educate ourselves.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

@Yusuf @LurkerBaba @Daredevil @ezsasa @LETHALFORCE @hit&run @Indx TechStyle I don't know how, but if possible, please backup and save the story thread by Brig. Ray. Such gems should not be lost. Maybe a static page can be hosted as a memoriam.

Rum, Bum and Mouthorgan and other Indian Army stories

Op Vijay and the Feathered Battle Casualty 'Operation Vijay' had just started. 8 Mountain Division had been inducted in the Dras - Mushko sector. Part of the Division was still in the Valley. The war in Kargil was crystallising and the logistic support was in its infancy. Everything...

defenceforumindia.com

saved

 

[Kumaoni]

So this is what this is about….

 

[sydsnyper]

Hey Yusuf wanna say you something fuuuck you

Tere jaise lundfakiron ke wajah se hi sab band karna pad raha hai...

 

[Super Flanker]

Tere jaise lundfakiron ke wajah se hi sab band karna pad raha hai...

Don't worry, @super Mods need to just snap their fingers and this guy @darkflame will completely disappear from the forum never to be seen again.

 

[sydsnyper]

@Yusuf @Singh @LurkerBaba @Indx TechStyle @ezsasa @ALBY @Kunal Biswas @sayarekd Thank you for all the work you put into maintaining this forum. I will forever be thankful to DFI for the many people I met here.

Hope I get to meet you all and so many other members on this forum, again.

I still remember @Ray - Deep Respects to Him

 

[sydsnyper]

PS: I hope @Singh voted for Modi in 2024

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

Don't worry, @super Mods need to just snap their fingers and this guy @darkflame will completely disappear from the forum never to be seen again.
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mods have to snap a finger and this forum would completly disappear never to be seen again

 

[jackprince]

it sucks. But everfything has an expiry date, I guess. See you guys. This is the only forum I have stuck to for such a long time. I learnt a lot & grew up with it. Over 15 years. Long time.

So going to miss this place.

Thanx everyone. Thanx @Singh @Yusuf @LurkerBaba and all others.

Hope you all people have magnificient lives.

 

[sydsnyper]

it sucks. But everfything has an expiry date, I guess. See you guys. This is the only forum I have stuck to for such a long time. I learnt a lot & grew up with it. Over 15 years. Long time.

So going to miss this place.

Thanx everyone. Thanx @Singh @Yusuf @LurkerBaba and all others.

Hope you all people have magnificient lives.

Join the discord please..

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