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Right.
In your case, if you not interested in Intel, then stick with AM5. AM4 only good for low/bottom end systems.
There is a lot of plus point for AM5 compared to AM4 except price.
First you need to pick a cpu/apu. it tells you what socket to buy, then you need to pick a chipset, then features, and build quality and etc, mobo is the most important part and very hard to choose. More powerful the cpu/apc its very hard to choose a mobo.
I always give important to asus, with extra warranty [3+2], also msi, asrock etc also having good mobos [inr around 15k to 35k].
I am not buying 2 GPUs right now, but will want to have it as an option in the future. 4090/4090 Ti. Which motherboard do you recommend with Ryzen 9 processor?
 

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Local Indian sellers also don't provide any support or warranty help. They just shed responsibility and ask to call customer care center.

I personally ordered CPU, GPU, RAM and PCIe Serial Port Cards. Never faced an issue.
Most major brand honor Amazon Invoice.
What gpu u using?
 

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golden words. This bench marks et all does nothing than putting one in more confusion ... Buy to your requirement and be happy..
I agree, unless you are building commercial software benchmarks mean nothing. There are few that are more real world'ish though but even then you need good amount of cooling otherwise guaranteed your board and processor would fry sooner
 

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Right.
In your case, if you not interested in Intel, then stick with AM5. AM4 only good for low/bottom end systems.
There is a lot of plus point for AM5 compared to AM4 except price.
First you need to pick a cpu/apu. it tells you what socket to buy, then you need to pick a chipset, then features, and build quality and etc, mobo is the most important part and very hard to choose. More powerful the cpu/apc its very hard to choose a mobo.
I always give important to asus, with extra warranty [3+2], also msi, asrock etc also having good mobos [inr around 15k to 35k].
I had mixed experience with asus but they are ok and also asrock. Make sure powersupply is a good one and have a good UPS and decent fans and well vented tower .
 

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I am not buying 2 GPUs right now, but will want to have it as an option in the future. 4090/4090 Ti. Which motherboard do you recommend with Ryzen 9 processor?
Wait for sometime let Ryzen 7000 Series (Zen 4) series reach mass market adoption.
 

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Local Indian sellers also don't provide any support or warranty help. They just shed responsibility and ask to call customer care center.

I personally ordered CPU, GPU, RAM and PCIe Serial Port Cards. Never faced an issue.
Most major brand honor Amazon Invoice.
I personally ordered CPU, GPU, RAM and PCIe Serial Port Cards. - from where ?
Local Indian sellers also don't provide any support or warranty help - they provide tips or support[bad or good] and can't provide warranty, warranty provided by OEM.
The important point is Amazon global not good for Indian user in the case of computer [except apple/samsung top end etc or international warranty], becz they can't provide warranty.
Amazon provide a market place to Local Indian sellers, who sell product to you, and the Amazon Invoice contain Local Indian seller name/address/bill/date etc.
Never faced an issue.- when issue happens, you need oem support or Local Indian sellers support.
 

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I personally ordered CPU, GPU, RAM and PCIe Serial Port Cards. - from where ?
Amazon Global.
Local Indian sellers also don't provide any support or warranty help - they provide tips or support[bad or good] and can't provide warranty, warranty provided by OEM.
The important point is Amazon global not good for Indian user in the case of computer [except apple/samsung top end etc or international warranty], becz they can't provide warranty.
Amazon provide a market place to Local Indian sellers, who sell product to you, and the Amazon Invoice contain Local Indian seller name/address/bill/date etc.
Never faced an issue.- when issue happens, you need oem support or Local Indian sellers support.
I believe big vendors like Asus, Corsair, Samsung and MSI do support warranty for items procured Amazon Global.
The problem with Indian vendors is that they are selling at huge markup making direct import economical.
 

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I am not buying 2 GPUs right now, but will want to have it as an option in the future. 4090/4090 Ti. Which motherboard do you recommend with Ryzen 9 processor?
motherboard depends on processor, so which Ryzen 9 processor ? want wifi ? m.2 raid ? dual gpu ?
Ryzen 9 processor are top high end cpu/apu, need high end mobo[inr above 12k to 80k depends on your need]
Ryzen 9 5900x - ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) or MSI Components MPG X570 Gaming Plus
Also rich can consider most expensive one MSI MPG X570S Carbon EK X Gaming Motherboard.
You can consider mid end chipsets but they don't support all features of r9.
Major tip- wait & buy AM5, next gen one. 6xxx or 7xxx.
AM4/AM5- socket & x470/h550/x570 - chip sets for cpu.
 

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Amazon Global.

I believe big vendors like Asus, Corsair, Samsung and MSI do support warranty for items procured Amazon Global.
The problem with Indian vendors is that they are selling at huge markup making direct import economical.
Asus may be/mostly, rest depend on international warranty & support/repair centre, most of the time - cash back with or with out a new one.
Good thing China manufacture all/everything & for every one and our neighbour country in this case. [warranty & paid repair depends on China for Amazon Global unless its a premium item]
 

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I had mixed experience with asus but they are ok and also asrock. Make sure powersupply is a good one and have a good UPS and decent fans and well vented tower .
If smps is great then every thing is great.
ASrock & asus both are good compared to others in med-high end mobo.
Asrock - value for money, asus- overall/best . asus experience is mixed due to their under capability, a large portion on Indians depends on asus [phone/mobo/display/input device etc etc from bottom end to super premium level] Asus make mobo ranging below 6k to above 80k/1l and top market - India
 

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Currently none. My motherboard got damaged. Previously I used GTX960.
Now I am using A320 motherboard with Ryzen 3200.
I am planning to upgrade by rig with Ryzen 7000 series and RTX4070/4080.
4080 prices dropped a Lil last night best of luck
 

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090, RTX 4080 price in India, release date
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 is set to launch on October 12th and RTX 4080 will be launching in November. After some confusion over Indian pricing, Nvidia has finally shared the official price of these GPUs for the country:
  • GeForce RTX 4090 – Rs 1,55,000
  • GeForce RTX 4080 (16GB) – Rs 1,16,000
  • GeForce RTX 4080 (12GB) – Rs 87,000
 

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090, RTX 4080 price in India, release date
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 is set to launch on October 12th and RTX 4080 will be launching in November. After some confusion over Indian pricing, Nvidia has finally shared the official price of these GPUs for the country:
  • GeForce RTX 4090 – Rs 1,55,000
  • GeForce RTX 4080 (16GB) – Rs 1,16,000
  • GeForce RTX 4080 (12GB) – Rs 87,000
Nvidia strategy is clear = looting/milking, no competition is there. No mid range 4000 card released. This way those who are waiting for RTX4070 will be forced to buy RTX4080.
 

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Nvidia strategy is clear = looting/milking, no competition is there. No mid range 4000 card released. This way those who are waiting for RTX4070 will be forced to buy RTX4080.
No, mid range will come out in 2-3 months. It has always been the case with Nvidia. It first releases its high end cards and subsequently releases other range cards in few months time...

Best youtube handle I found for good info is: Moore's Law is Dead and JayZTwoCents..
 
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motherboard depends on processor, so which Ryzen 9 processor ? want wifi ? m.2 raid ? dual gpu ?
Ryzen 9 processor are top high end cpu/apu, need high end mobo[inr above 12k to 80k depends on your need]
Ryzen 9 5900x - ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) or MSI Components MPG X570 Gaming Plus
Also rich can consider most expensive one MSI MPG X570S Carbon EK X Gaming Motherboard.
You can consider mid end chipsets but they don't support all features of r9.
Major tip- wait & buy AM5, next gen one. 6xxx or 7xxx.
AM4/AM5- socket & x470/h550/x570 - chip sets for cpu.
I wanted cheapest mobo which would support dual gpu. Processor that I am looking for is 7900/7950x, I dont care about wifi or other stuff...
 

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I wanted cheapest mobo which would support dual gpu. Processor that I am looking for is 7900/7950x, I dont care about wifi or other stuff...
dual gpu - sorry, no dual gpu under low/medium category. [only above 30k & for nvidia, cost additional]
Now a days no one consider dual gpu except miniers, ai based 3d design, 3d server etc. Better to buy a extreme end gpu than dual gpu. low cost dual gpu works on half bus speed, and single gpu is better than dual in this case.
cheapest mobo can't fully support 7900 and cause issue with 7950x, and cheapest mobo which fully support cost around 25k and dual gpu cost around 30k. Mobo cost around 35k[best] to 80k [extreme] for 7900/7950x, now threadripper cost around 45k to above 1l.

X670 for r7/r9. very expensive 25k
B650 for r5/r7, less expensive 10k
both am5 socket, under 80inr per $
When processor speed, power, price increases, same goes to mobo, don't put a race car engine [2k~3kcc] into nano, r7 user buys mobo around 30k and r9 user around 40k, and if you want rtx3090/4090 gpu, better consider mobo around 30k~35k. or consider r5/r7 with mobo around 15k/25k with rtx4070/80.
Mobo & cpu just the first part, then atx[4000], cooler[5500], smps[7k to 12k modular], ups, ssd [5k to 20k] list goes on.
In simple if i3 gaming system cost x, then i5 - 2x. i7 - 4/5x, i9 - 6.5/8/10x.
i3- fhd gaming, i5- fhd ultra, i7- 4k, i9- 4k ultra. [nvidia fully support led display cost premium]
5 years back you can buy r9 mobo around 15k, now 25k.
how much mobo cost you expect for r9/r7 ?
 

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dual gpu - sorry, no dual gpu under low/medium category. [only above 30k & for nvidia, cost additional]
Now a days no one consider dual gpu except miniers, ai based 3d design, 3d server etc. Better to buy a extreme end gpu than dual gpu. low cost dual gpu works on half bus speed, and single gpu is better than dual in this case.
cheapest mobo can't fully support 7900 and cause issue with 7950x, and cheapest mobo which fully support cost around 25k and dual gpu cost around 30k. Mobo cost around 35k[best] to 80k [extreme] for 7900/7950x, now threadripper cost around 45k to above 1l.

X670 for r7/r9. very expensive 25k
B650 for r5/r7, less expensive 10k
both am5 socket, under 80inr per $
When processor speed, power, price increases, same goes to mobo, don't put a race car engine [2k~3kcc] into nano, r7 user buys mobo around 30k and r9 user around 40k, and if you want rtx3090/4090 gpu, better consider mobo around 30k~35k. or consider r5/r7 with mobo around 15k/25k with rtx4070/80.
Mobo & cpu just the first part, then atx[4000], cooler[5500], smps[7k to 12k modular], ups, ssd [5k to 20k] list goes on.
In simple if i3 gaming system cost x, then i5 - 2x. i7 - 4/5x, i9 - 6.5/8/10x.
i3- fhd gaming, i5- fhd ultra, i7- 4k, i9- 4k ultra. [nvidia fully support led display cost premium]
5 years back you can buy r9 mobo around 15k, now 25k.
how much mobo cost you expect for r9/r7 ?
I meant cheapest mobo which would support, not just cheapest mobo... For motherboard, I am expecting around 30k to spend. Yes, would need high end 1200W or more psu, water cooling, Liquid cooler for processor and all the stuff... Yes, I am looking at X670 for now, will see which best supports in the cheapest price among them.. There are many variants in X670 too.

Threadripper and A100/A6000 is way too high in price, lol. I am not even thinking about that...
 
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