Pakistani political discussions

[Godhimself]

What a shitshow lol

Anyhow good imran survived, more shitty conditions for pakistan in future

 

[Love Charger]

stay.. niazi.. stay..

No-confidence motion cancelled by speaker..

Why saar , you now support pmik

 

[not so dravidian]

At Max, imrand may actually survive 5 yrs and at re-election paki military might invoke article 62

 

[not so dravidian]

 

[ezsasa]

Why saar , you now support pmik

because niazi is the truest and closest representation of what jinnah wanted pakistan to be in the years proceeding and succeeding 1947 events.

 

[Kumaoni]

The only “Niazi” I know

 

[Coalmine]

Why Indian media is reporting so much about these porkis. Do they get orgasm ?

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Given the kind of state Pakistan is, Sharifs are their best bet anyway. Keep shouting Islam and Jihad in public, and do good business with the US, China and India.

we need an anti west pakistan as in the long term the west will be our IDEOLOGICAL enemy and so the pakistan establishment going along with the west through their generals is the lesser option for us as that means western assistance will start again and the pak state will be used against us.

we need some form of deep turmoil in the pak state now through internal riots and terrorists attacks from civilians and terror orgs so that the pak army is always off balance and this imran rhetoric is good for us.

we need the pak army cut off from the west as its best support has come from the west,the support they get from china is double edged and they usually always get it despite their status with the west.

also the pak army seems to be more pragmatic now which is bad for us and we need ore foolish people in their leadership such as imran and general politicians in the pak state.the pak army now knows that the just like india balances others,they must balance too for best results which we must not allow to do.

we must push them towards internal turmoil based on siding with the US by motivating internal groups to cause havoc and push them preferrably towrds the chinese as it would also serve as a assurance that the US and the west wont get another base to needle us as that is the long term problem for us which we cant power project and deal with.we can handle china in our own backyard.

 

[Kumaoni]

we need an anti west pakistan as in the long term the west will be our IDEOLOGICAL enemy and so the pakistan establishment going along with the west through their generals is the lesser option for us as that means western assistance will start again and the pak state will be used against us.

we need some form of deep turmoil in the pak state now through internal riots and terrorists attacks from civilians and terror orgs so that the pak army is always off balance and this imran rhetoric is good for us.

we need the pak army cut off from the west as its best support has come from the west,the support they get from china is double edged and they usually always get it despite their status with the west.

also the pak army seems to be more pragmatic now which is bad for us and we need ore foolish people in their leadership such as imran and general politicians in the pak state.the pak army now knows that the just like india balances others,they must balance too for best results which we must not allow to do.

we must push them towards internal turmoil based on siding with the US by motivating internal groups to cause havoc and push them preferrably towrds the chinese as it would also serve as a assurance that the US and the west wont get another base to needle us as that is the long term problem for us which we cant power project and deal with.we can handle china in our own backyard.

Every Pro West Pakistani ruler has fought some war with us.
Ayub Khan
Yahya Khan
Pervez Musharraf
Zia Ul Haq

 

[ezsasa]

Next paki election (originally 2023) is supposed to happen on EVM, where overseas pakistanis are eligible to vote, which effectively means foreigners can vote in any constituency in pakistan.

but now they have only 90 days for next elections, if they happen.
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Pakistan passes bills allowing electronic voting machines and voting from overseas for next general election

Pakistan passes bills allowing electronic voting machines and voting from overseas for next general election

ISLAMABAD: The government and its allies on Wednesday pulled off a victory against the opposition during a joint sitting of parliament by succeeding in passing the bills that pave the way for holding

constitutionnet.org

 

[NotASussyBoi]

At Max, imrand may actually survive 5 yrs and at re-election paki military might invoke article 62

5 years of entertainment for us indians,may jinnah bless imran

 

[Jimih]

At Max, imrand may actually survive 5 yrs and at re-election paki military might invoke article 62

Imran is not coming either way.

 

[Detective Pennington]

Bajwa openly contradicted IK saying they support Ukraine and oppose the invasion “despite russia’s legitimate security concerns.” Also said it gives light to a smaller country opposing a larger one if they have selective modernization and the will to fight.

What is the purpose of this? To join the west’s camp and pre-emptively organize a unified world response in case India makes a move on POK/GB? To gain US support in overthrowing IK’s government?

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Bajwa openly contradicted IK saying they support Ukraine and oppose the invasion “despite russia’s legitimate security concerns.” Also said it gives light to a smaller country opposing a larger one if they have selective modernization and the will to fight.

What is the purpose of this? To join the west’s camp and pre-emptively organize a unified world response in case India makes a move on POK/GB? To gain US support in overthrowing IK’s government?

see paki generals are becoming more pragmatic than the average state of their people and politicians due to thei relative higher focus on the real state of pakistan.

 

[Detective Pennington]

see paki generals are becoming more pragmatic than the average state of their people and politicians due to thei relative higher focus on the real state of pakistan.

Makes sense. Right now US is reeling from Pakistani support of Taliban during war on terror. You think they will forgive and forget and start helping pak against India if Pak gets on it’s knees and opens it’s mouth wide as usual due to india not openly antagonizing Russia?

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Makes sense. Right now US is reeling from Pakistani support of Taliban during war on terror. You think they will forgive and forget and start helping pak against India if Pak gets on it’s knees and opens it’s mouth wide as usual due to india not openly antagonizing Russia?

The US wont support pakistan immediatley again for INDIA BUT FOR CHINA,if it is scheming,it might try to pry away pakistan from china,atleast it is worth a try from the perspective of an american world order type faction in the US.

they might not immediately use them against us as they need us too against china,but if they manage to pull it off then,they can use this as an excuse to put pak in the good boy books and create pressure for india not to destabilize their one of their historically most pliant states in the region.

it can also be used as a card against us in the future if need be as a backup.remember,if pakistan destabilizes once,its over for pak as there is enough powder in the state for it to blast and balkanize politically.ethnically,religiously.And from american perspective if india proactively moves ahead and does something that pakistan cannot reverse like take back parts of POK,then their future pakistan card will be forever ruined as it wont be as useful against us.

So this might be a last chance to wring pak away from china and use it against it and against india in the future.

india should make sure that the pakistanis are fervent and short sighted by provoking anti west feelings and thereby pressurizing the military from forging any reconciliation with the west.

It is easier to justify actions like POK takeover and anti pak initiatives from our side if they dont the overbearing alliance of the West.especially USA which always had a tendency to dampen down indian responses.people are more forgiving when optics of it is seen as doing something against a china aligned country.

We must make sure pak is isolated from the west till we can permenantly damage it so that its future utility for any woke imperialist against a then resurgent india is dramatically reduced.we must keep the west and western aligned countries from seeing the opportunity of reconciling with pakistan by lying and distractions and provoking bad feelings and demonstrations in pakistan.

 

[Detective Pennington]

The US wont support pakistan immediatley again for INDIA BUT FOR CHINA,if it is scheming,it might try to pry away pakistan from china,atleast it is worth a try from the perspective of an american world order type faction in the US.

they might not immediately use them against us as they need us too against china,but if they manage to pull it off then,they can use this as an excuse to put pak in the good boy books and create pressure for india not to destabilize their one of their historically most pliant states in the region.

it can also be used as a card against us in the future if need be as a backup.remember,if pakistan destabilizes once,its over for pak as there is enough powder in the state for it to blast and balkanize politically.ethnically,religiously.And from american perspective if india proactively moves ahead and does something that pakistan cannot reverse like take back parts of POK,then their future pakistan card will be forever ruined as it wont be as useful against us.

So this might be a last chance to wring pak away from china and use it against it and against india in the future.

india should make sure that the pakistanis are fervent and short sighted by provoking anti west feelings and thereby pressurizing the military from forging any reconciliation with the west.

It is easier to justify actions like POK takeover and anti pak initiatives from our side if they dont the overbearing alliance of the West.especially USA which always had a tendency to dampen down indian responses.people are more forgiving when optics of it is seen as doing something against a china aligned country.

We must make sure pak is isolated from the west till we can permenantly damage it so that its future utility for any woke imperialist against a then resurgent india is dramatically reduced.we must keep the west and western aligned countries from seeing the opportunity of reconciling with pakistan by lying and distractions and provoking bad feelings and demonstrations in pakistan.

yeah right now would honestly be the best time to make a move on POK/GB IMO. The west is busy with Russia, and if China invades Taiwan that is even more distraction.

i do see a counter argument though, that global narrative in the west will put India in the same boat as China and Russia, “authoritarian imperialists”esp with all the modi is a facist stuff going on.

 

[Detective Pennington]

because niazi is the truest and closest representation of what jinnah wanted pakistan to be in the years proceeding and succeeding 1947 events.

what do you mean by this exactly?

 

[ezsasa]

what do you mean by this exactly?

-Both lived a modern western lifestyle through out their lives
-Both used Islam for political goals
-Both frame their thought process based on the premise that Pakistan is "Not-Hindu-India"
-Both displayed dictatorial tendencies once they achieved power
-Both used medina as an role model for pakistan to gain and sustain power
-Both were not keen on not having institution any investigative authority over them
-Both used their foreign policy to framed with islam as cornerstone
-Both repeatedly passed derogatory remarks against their Indian counterparts
-Both use Indian muslims for their own political goals

 

[Detective Pennington]

-Both lived a modern western lifestyle through out their lives
-Both used Islam for political goals
-Both frame their thought process based on the premise that Pakistan is "Not-Hindu-India"
-Both displayed dictatorial tendencies once they achieved power
-Both used medina as an role model for pakistan to gain and sustain power
-Both were not keen on not having institution any investigative authority over them
-Both used their foreign policy to framed with islam as cornerstone
-Both repeatedly passed derogatory remarks against their Indian counterparts
-Both use Indian muslims for their own political goals

Ah that makes sense. But how is that good for India?