Pakistani political discussions

[flanker99]

Waiting for new COAS to get appointed.

Immu's weapon is his popularity..if he calls people will come but its a trump card that should only be used once but he has already used it 2 times..as more time passes more people will stop caring about him

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Immu's weapon is his popularity..if he calls people will come

He's popular but problem his supporters too aren't going to come on streets in sheer numbers.

Online trolling doesn't take as much will power as coming to street and start a revolution.

as more time passes more people will stop caring about him

Not really, it would have so if he just had been a politician. He's a former prime minister and his election campaigns will remain relevant as long as he's alive unless his party nosedives and losses elections after elections like Congress did in India.

 

[Alamarathan]

come on streets

If he had any real life clout,they would've rioted after his ouster,his last hopes lies with new coas as @Jimih pointed out.

 

[Butter Chicken]

PTI Chairman Imran Khan at a public gathering in Pakistan's Rawalpindi announces that his party has decided to resign from all the Assemblies: Pakistan media

 

[Jimih]

PTI Chairman Imran Khan at a public gathering in Pakistan's Rawalpindi announces that his party has decided to resign from all the Assemblies: Pakistan media

So relections in Pakjab and KPK?

Or Governer rule?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Ball again in Imran Khan's court. He either has to storm Pakistani streets or get irrelevant forever.
General polls to be 'postponed' if economy not recovered, warns PDM spokesperson

General polls to be 'postponed' if economy not recovered, warns PDM spokesperson

Hamdullah says PTI left power by leaving country financially tied.PTI was imposed by force, he says. PTI reiterates need for fair and transparent snap polls.Pakistan...

www.geo.tv

• Hamdullah says PTI left power by leaving country financially tied.
• "PTI was imposed by force," he says.
• PTI reiterates need for fair and transparent snap polls.

 

[pankaj nema]

Ball again in Imran Khan's court. He either has to storm Pakistani streets or get irrelevant forever.
General polls to be 'postponed' if economy not recovered, warns PDM spokesperson

General polls to be 'postponed' if economy not recovered, warns PDM spokesperson

Hamdullah says PTI left power by leaving country financially tied.PTI was imposed by force, he says. PTI reiterates need for fair and transparent snap polls.Pakistan...

www.geo.tv

• Hamdullah says PTI left power by leaving country financially tied.
• "PTI was imposed by force," he says.
• PTI reiterates need for fair and transparent snap polls.

PDM wants elections After Reducing
Inflation Or Maybe they Are planning to get Imran Disqualified

 

[rao.abhirav]

Ball again in Imran Khan's court. He either has to storm Pakistani streets or get irrelevant forever.
General polls to be 'postponed' if economy not recovered, warns PDM spokesperson

General polls to be 'postponed' if economy not recovered, warns PDM spokesperson

Hamdullah says PTI left power by leaving country financially tied.PTI was imposed by force, he says. PTI reiterates need for fair and transparent snap polls.Pakistan...

www.geo.tv

• Hamdullah says PTI left power by leaving country financially tied.
• "PTI was imposed by force," he says.
• PTI reiterates need for fair and transparent snap polls.

Pakistan as of 2000s was effectively run by it's forces it's a army with a state now they rule indirectly. Unpopular opinion but a state run by an army is less dangerous than a state run by religious fantics bcoz while army personal across the world no matter the allegiance take calculated moves, Religious fanatics are suicidal.

 

[rao.abhirav]

Pakistan as of 2000s was effectively run by it's forces it's a army with a state now they rule indirectly. Unpopular opinion but a state run by an army is less dangerous than a state run by religious fantics bcoz while army personal across the world no matter the allegiance take calculated moves, Religious fanatics are suicidal.

Adding to the point it will be supporting these religious fanatics in balochistan that will be they key to seperate it from pakistan provided that a domino effect is avoided

 

[ezsasa]

Pakistan as of 2000s was effectively run by it's forces it's a army with a state now they rule indirectly. Unpopular opinion but a state run by an army is less dangerous than a state run by religious fantics bcoz while army personal across the world no matter the allegiance take calculated moves, Religious fanatics are suicidal.

1965 war - general ayub khan (President)
1971 genocide and war - general yahya khan (President)
1980's islamisation of pakistan - general zia ul haq (President)
1999 kargil - supposedly planned by general musharraf (later becomes president)

there is a daaru wala fauj and a dadi wala fauj within pak army.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Unpopular opinion but a state run by an army is less dangerous than a state run by religious fantics bcoz while army personal across the world no matter the allegiance take calculated moves, Religious fanatics are suicidal.

This is not an unpopular opinion.

 

[Blademaster]

Pakistan as of 2000s was effectively run by it's forces it's a army with a state now they rule indirectly. Unpopular opinion but a state run by an army is less dangerous than a state run by religious fantics bcoz while army personal across the world no matter the allegiance take calculated moves, Religious fanatics are suicidal.

well it depends on the response of other states. When religious fanatics take over it provokes a much stronger response from other states and usually lead to the destruction of that state that has been taken over by religious fanatics. IMHO it would be better for India overall if religious fanatics take over Pakistan because it would prompt GoI to take real concrete actions and dismember Pakistan and denuke them.

 

[rao.abhirav]

well it depends on the response of other states. When religious fanatics take over it provokes a much stronger response from other states and usually lead to the destruction of that state that has been taken over by religious fanatics. IMHO it would be better for India overall if religious fanatics take over Pakistan because it would prompt GoI to take real concrete actions and dismember Pakistan and denuke them.

I would disagree to the part that I don't think that merely religious fanatics taking over is not an act of war. it is an internal matter of that country for example there was regime change in Afganistan there was no invasion of them atleast not as of yet now pakistan borders afganistan which is it's self a theocracy and Iran which is also a theocracy that leaves India and India's defense doctrine now is not suitable for a modern war the modern war machine simply moves too fast for cold start to work but I agree that we should dismember pakistan into 4 and take back what is rightfully ours

I have battle plans for anti cold start operations if you are interested : https://defenceforumindia.com/threa...st-anti-cold-start-strategy.9386/post-2428170

 

[Indx TechStyle]

When religious fanatics take over it provokes a much stronger response from other states and usually lead to the destruction of that state that has been taken over by religious fanatics.

That's something new I ever heard of.
Any examples?

IMHO it would be better for India overall if religious fanatics take over Pakistan because it would prompt GoI to take real concrete actions and dismember Pakistan and denuke them.

As far as I see, GoI is more interested in a decades long healthy economic and military build up than draining resources and diplomatic capital in a full scale war.
A crazy fanatic Pakistan bothering India (as it's more aggressive and suicidal posture will compensate for its relative weakness) doesn't suit India at all. But an afraid, cash strapped, turmoil hit, politically unstable Pakistan with incompetent political parties like now is. India has a lot more to prepare for real threats where Pakistan should be snubbed and defanged with minimal effort.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Election within 90 days is duty, not choice: CJP

"When it comes to constitutional enforcement, we must not blink our eyes," Justice Bandial says.

www.dawn.com

 

[flanker99]

Expect major escalations in the coming weeks as immu has been arrested and with g20 summit coming porkies will try to divert attention to loc.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

could be the reverse too. poonch attack was 2 weeks back, it could be paki establishment's way of testing GoI's appetite for reaction/escalation. but it doesn't look like niazi got arrested on a non-bailable offence.

ofcourse this does not mean, IA needs to restrain themselves if indeed something is already in the works.

I hope Dimran dies in custody. He was already having medical issues causing swelling in feet few days back. That is a sign of heart issues but could be due to the recent injuries from gun shots he got as well. If he die in custody, it will be balle balle in Pakistan.

 

[ezsasa]

I hope Dimran dies in custody. He was already having medical issues causing swelling in feet few days back. That is a sign of heart issues but could be due to the recent injuries from gun shots he got as well. If he die in custody, it will be balle balle in Pakistan.

funnily enough, i gave niazi benefit of doubt for many months, and thought there was a slim chance that he could really turn pakiland around. but after hiring and firing that ahmadi U.S based economist, it was clear niazi had crossed the point of no return, chance of pakiland recovering very very slim.

niazi is just old pakistaniyat in a new bottle.

 

[Illusive]

What are they gonna do with him, the moment he gets out he will sweep any elections.

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

What are they gonna do with him, the moment he gets out he will sweep any elections.

He has been physically hit and hurt.

HIs body guards:

His laywer ^^

Him getting thrashed before arrest.