Pakistani Lies & Denial thread

[mayfair]

For such a show there would be no producers.

ISI decides the panel on most shows.

ISI owns the shows and the channels and the studios. None of these channels are NOT backed or funded by the fauj in part or in full. There are red lines that are not to be crossed and ISI danda ensures this.

Sample this- all TV "shows" gripe and rant about about foreign policy failures and Shitistan having no foreign minister; they fully know that foreign policy is the domain of the fauj and has been unequivocally so since the time of Benazir Bhutto. But they'll never dare say so. Have you noted that there's at least ONE retired fauji (usually Brigadier and above) on every "talk show"?

Occasionally you may find an odd article or two mildly critical of the fauj (but with an attempt to do equal equal with the civvies) in the English print/online media, but never in the Urdu media- print/online or TV. Do not that Shitistan has no English news channels.

This also allows them to tell the West- see we are so enlightened that we allow the likes of Hoodbhoy, Asma Jehangir etc. to freely express their views. Never mind that their views are seriously curtailed and for every one Asma Jehangir programme, there are 100s of Amjad Shoaib's wanking off the fauj.

 

[Babloo Singh]

Honest discussion on state of Pak in their media

I like way ISI works...
This Video has been deleted by youtube... in fact the account which posted this has been deleted.
I assume ISI SM cell must have send mass complain...

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Do note that all blame is assigned to the civvies- hukumaraan and naukershaahi.

Not an iota of blame is ever laid at the army's doorstep. Even their misdeeds are attributed to the civvies.

Ever seen a Napaki talk show blame fauj for the state Shitistan finds itself today?

I remember there used to be such shows criticizing the army back in 2008-2012, with Marvi Sirmed, Najam Sethi, Hamid Mir and half a dozen other analysts openly criticizing the past and present deeds of the paki army. Those were the golden days of Indian youtube channels like DLXarea1. I remember Najam Sethi outright saying that they should forget about Kashmir. Many journalists were openly saying that pakistan lost all wars, including 1965. But then around 2012 it all got stamped out, and even Najam Sethi started towing the line since. Other more critical journalists have simply disappeared from pakistani TV.

 

[ezsasa]

I remember there used to be such shows criticizing the army back in 2008-2012, with Marvi Sirmed, Najam Sethi, Hamid Mir and half a dozen other analysts openly criticizing the past and present deeds of the paki army. Those were the golden days of Indian youtube channels like DLXarea1. I remember Najam Sethi outright saying that they should forget about Kashmir. Many journalists were openly saying that pakistan lost all wars, including 1965. But then around 2012 it all got stamped out, and even Najam Sethi started towing the line since. Other more critical journalists have simply disappeared from pakistani TV.

Same period when Hamid Mir got shot...

 

[mayfair]

^^ That would be the time just after Mushrat was forced to abdicate following BB's murder and the infamous Kerry Luger bill. The fauj was in a transition with a new COAS taking over after 9 years. A lot of chaos much like the post-1971 senario in left-over shitistan.

I recall the videos you mentioned, including the famous ones by Harami Mir, Hajam Sethi, Hassan Nissar et al. Except for a few isolated statements by Pervez Hoodbhoy, Nazir Naji and Asma Jehangir, not one of them criticised fauj as an institution- the attacks were focussed on individuals such as Yahya Khan, Ayub Khan, Zia-ul-Haq, Hamid Gul, Tiger Niazi i.e. a few jarnails etc. for the catastrophe that the fauj had brought about on Shitistan. And that all of it was in the past- the fauj of today was far removed from the fauj of the times when these "pretenders" were in charge.

The message being that these were bad apples responsible for the state of Shitistan and that the fauji system was so robust that such bad apples could only cause limited arm to the institution. Not one commentator pointed out that the behaviour was not out of sync, but completely institutionalised and these were mere public faces and the behaviour is no different today, if anything it has become even more schizophrenic, paranoid and obsessive.

I only recall a few statements that stood out in their criticism of the fauj.
Asma Jehangir- "They (fauji) are duffers, all of them."
Pervez Hoodbhoy- "Humne fauj ko bada kiya, itna bada kiya ki woh humein hi kha gayi."
Nazir Naji- "Itni badi fauj ne kaun sa bacha liya humein."

Hassan Nisar was critical of the clergy the self-styled thekedaars of Islam and also of the Pakistani political leadership- Motti motti moonchon waale, motti tondoun waale..

Not one of them had the guts to accept the elephant in the room- Malsi and the role of fauj in unleashing the Malsi monster.

We enjoyed those because we had never seen such stuff come of out Shitistan..and despite our experiences, we failed to see taqiya in action. I would like to say people that people are more aware today, but sometimes I wonder...

Even this was too much for the fauj to tolerate, but they were themselves in a transitory phase so their focus was more on Amreeka and Afghanistan and Kashmir. But once they regained their bearings, they fought back and soon trampled any semblance of dissent.

Now the commentators are happily back to slandering the hukmaraan, who are anyway the favourite whipping boys of the Napaki aawam. This is because all of them want a plot in DHA and Bahria town that only the fauj can dole out, with no questions asked.

 

[Mikesingh]

Pakis dont have shame . Wait for the spin they come up with

The have already given a spin that the US drones had targeted a house full of Afghan refugees!! No word about top Haqqani Network Commanders Ehsanullah alias Khawari and Nasir Mehmood who were killed!

These clowns are the masters of spin.

 

[Butter Chicken]

Brave Pak journalist exposes ISI-paid "Expert"


US slams ISPR lies

As the United States (US) on Thursday rejected Foreign Office (FO) claims that a Jan 24 drone strike targeted an Afghan refugee camp in Kurram Agency, the army's media wing explained that the drone targeted a terrorist hiding in an Afghan refugee complex in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata).

The Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) statement said: "The drone strike on Jan 24 in Speen Tal, Hangu district, was on an individual target who had morphed into Afghan refugees and not [on] any organised terrorists sanctuary, which have been eliminated."

The statement added that there are 54 Afghan refugee camps and complexes in Pakistan, 43 of which are in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa "with overlap in Fata". One of the complexes in Hangu were targeted by the drone strike on Jan 24.

"This validates Pakistan’s stance that left over terrorists easily morph into Afghan refugees camps/complexes," the ISPR statement said, referring to the integration of militants into local populations, particularly in the tribal areas.

"Thus their [Afghan refugees'] early and dignified return to Afghanistan is essential. Pakistan’s brotherly hospitality to peaceful Afghan refugees must not be exploited by the terrorists," the statement added.

Interestingly, a United Nations refugee agency spokesperson told AFPthat there are no refugee camps in the tribal areas, and no sign of a camp can be seen in pictures from the site.

Earlier today, US Embassy Spokesperson Rick Sinelsine told DawnNews that Pakistan's claim that United States forces struck an Afghan refugee camp in Kurram Agency on Wednesday is false.

The spokesperson, however, did not confirm or deny whether the US army had carried out a drone attack in the region.

 

[Butter Chicken]

US demands Radio Mashaal's transmission be restored

The United States has asked Pakistan to retract the ban placed on Radio Mashaal, a Pashto language broadcaster linked to the US-funded Radio Free Europe, BBC Urdu reported on Friday.

Radio Mashaal was shut down by the interior ministry on the on recommendations of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

According to BBC Urdu, US State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said in a press briefing on Thursday that her country does not understand why Pakistan has placed a ban on Radio Mashal which is run by Radio Free Europe (RFE).

The United States has "expressed concern" over Pakistan's decision to discontinue Radio Mashaal's services and has "demanded that the transmission be restored immediately," BBC Urdu said.

 

[Butter Chicken]

Naqeebullah protest moves to Islamabad, demands end to 'Pakhtun genocide'

Hundreds of people from the tribal areas rallied in Islamabad on Thursday, demanding the arrest of suspended SP Rao Anwar who has been accused of killing 27-year-old aspiring model NaqeebullahMehsud in a staged 'encounter' in Karachi.

The protesters had gathered in front of the National Press Club in the capital to demonstrate against the killing. A large banner displayed on a stage set up at the site read, "Justice for Naqeeb Mehsud".

"Stop Pakhtun genocide," read another banner.

Holding portraits of Mehsud, the protesters threatened to hold a sit-in outside the parliament if Anwar is not arrested.

They demanded that a judicial commission headed by the chief justice be formed to investigate extrajudicial killings of Pakhtuns in Karachi and other areas.

The missing persons should be presented before courts and those found to be innocent should be released, they demanded.

The protesters also asked that the imposition of curfews in Fata, especially Waziristan, after any incident should be ended and that landmines should be cleared in various areas of Waziristan.

 

[mayfair]

Shitistan is a country where everyone lies to everyone, including themselves because they just can't handle the truth- Not about their origins, not about their character, not about their faith and definitely not about their future.

Too many skeletons, too many uncomfortable questions- the stark reality is something they are afraid to face head on.

Hence the lies, first the lies about their own origins, then the lies about the origins of the state and then the lies about being victimised by the rest of the world and finally lies about their divinely ordained "vibrant and glorious future."

 

[Butter Chicken]

16 Pakistanis died in migrant boat tragedy off Libya: Foreign Office

At least 16 Pakistanis drowned off the coast of Libya early on Friday after a smuggler’s boat they were riding capsized, the Foreign Office (FO) confirmed on Saturday.

According to a document acquired by DawnNews, the bodies of eight Pakistani migrants had been recovered and identified. The identification documents of four deceased Pakistanis were not found, but they were identified by a survivor.

The bodies of four migrants hailing from Gujrat have not been recovered as yet, however, they have been identified through their IDs.

Most of the deceased migrants hail from Punjab's districts, including Mandi Bahauddin, Sargodha, Gujrat and Rawalpindi.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Shitistan is a country where everyone lies to everyone, including themselves because they just can't handle the truth- Not about their origins, not about their character, not about their faith and definitely not about their future.

Too many skeletons, too many uncomfortable questions- the stark reality is something they are afraid to face head on.

Hence the lies, first the lies about their own origins, then the lies about the origins of the state and then the lies about being victimised by the rest of the world and finally lies about their divinely ordained "vibrant and glorious future."

A good summary of the Porkistani nation in 3 paragraphs!

We should request the government of Porkistan to put the above on this website for a more accurate representation of the country:

http://www.tourism.gov.pk/about_pakistan.html?id=1502

(man, half the Porki gormint websites don't even load, I had to really search for this one)

 

[James-bond]

Pakthoons want Independence movement from punjabi terrorist state.

 

[IBRIS]

pakis say ...no terrorist lives in Pakistan...
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Pakis also say there were 3 workers working but in reality check this out.

 

[Butter Chicken]

US names three Pakistanis as ´terrorist facilitators´

Washington: The United States named three Pakistanis as key "terrorist facilitators", saying they worked closely with a well-known backer of Al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Taliban known as Shaykh Aminullah.

The US Treasury placed Rahman Zeb Faqir Muhammad, Hizb Ullah Astam Khan, and Dilawar Khan Nadir Khan on its blacklist of "Specially Designated Global Terrorists," in an effort to disrupt the group´s ability to obtain and distribute financing.

All three were tied to Shaykh Aminullah, who has been on international terror blacklists since 2009.

US officials allege that Shaykh Aminullah turned the Ganj madrassa, a boys school in Peshawar, into a training and recruiting base by Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba.

The three men were involved in providing financial and logistical support, explosives, and technological aid to the three extremist groups, the Treasury said.

Rahman Zeb, it said, has been in charge of raising funds and materials for Lashkar-e-Taiba in the Gulf region, and helped Shaykh Aminullah travel to the Gulf in 2014.

Hizb Ullah was involved in Shaykh Aminullah´s seminary and helped him on various trips to the Gulf.

Dilawar, meanwhile, was a close assistant to Shaykh Aminullah, arranging his travel around Pakistan and handling his correspondence and financial transactions.

"Treasury continues to aggressively pursue and expose radicals who support terrorist organizations and run illicit financial networks across South Asia," said Sigal Mandelker, Treasury Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.

 

[AMCA]

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India could be behind target killing of Chinese national in Karachi: Ahsan Iqbal
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Federal Minister for Interior and Planning, Development and Reforms Ahsan Iqbal. PHOTO: FILE PHOTO

Federal Minister for Interior Ahsan Iqbal has said that India could be involved in the target killing of a Chinese national in Karachi, according to Express News.

In an interview to BBC, the minister stressed that Indian spy Kulbhushan Yadav had admitted that India’s intelligence agency was involved in sabotaging China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) projects.

“Representatives of our neighbour country have gone on record to say that India is against the deepening trade partnership between Pakistan and China,” Iqbal added.




Ahsan Iqbal takes a dig at Imran Khan for his ‘political naivety’

According to the interior minister, confessional statements by convicted spy Kulbhushan Yadav in this regard are evidence of India’s subversive activities in the region.

“Yadav has revealed that New Delhi continues to dedicate a sizeable amount of money towards covert operations that aim to sabotage CPEC projects,” Iqbal remarked.

Refusing to rule out Indian involvement in the targetted killing of a Chinese national, Iqbal added that, “The recent target killing of a Chinese national in Karachi is another link of this espionage chain. India could be involved in this.”

Ahsan Iqbal all set to wear three hats

The minister stated that the nefarious designs of the enemy would not succeed, and the relationship between Pakistan and China will only improve further.

“Pakistan has deployed a dedicated force consisting of 10,000 security personnel to protect CPEC-related economic interests,” Iqbal told the British agency.

The minister also entertained questions about the bilateral relationship between Pakistan and United States (US), saying that Washington had indicated that it would not withhold economic aid to Pakistan.

“There are different factions present within the US Congress, which work with different agendas. However, in talks with the US administration, we have received assurances that economic aid to Pakistan would not be affected by the current tensions.”

Gwadar master plan to be prepared in line with CPEC: Ahsan Iqbal

The federal minister was of the opinion that peace in the region was linked to co-operation and peaceful co-existence between the security forces of Pakistan and US.

“Pakistan is the only country in the world which can be of tremendous help to the US for peace in Afghanistan. In order for that to happen, the countries should make joint efforts, and refrain from criticising each other.”

Ahsan Iqbal dismissed recent allegations by the US and Afghan governments that Pakistan was providing safe haven to militants.

“Kabul is lying when it says that those handed over to it by Pakistan a few weeks ago were refugees and not terrorists.”

According to a report by the western media, US has already lost control of at least 50 per cent of its territory in Afghanistan, Iqbal said.

“Why would these militants want a safe haven in Pakistan?” he asked.

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Such reports are only coming from pakistani sides. Chinese who are the biggest stakeholders in CPEC project have never claimed that india is behind killing of their citizens in Pakistan or india is trying to sabotage CPEC. Paki Ministers are blaming india for there own incompetence.

 

[AMCA]

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[Butter Chicken]

Paki Crying on US-UK Coax FRANCE-GERMANY to Place Pakistan on a global terrorist-financing watchlist

 

[hit&run]

Paki Crying on US-UK Coax FRANCE-GERMANY to Place Pakistan on a global terrorist-financing watchlist

Modi comes to their dreams every night and humps them hard. In morning they abuse him for keeping the tool dry.

 

[Mikesingh]

Such reports are only coming from pakistani sides. Chinese who are the biggest stakeholders in CPEC project have never claimed that india is behind killing of their citizens in Pakistan or india is trying to sabotage CPEC. Paki Ministers are blaming india for there own incompetence.

Not only sheer incompetence by these Paki turds, they are trying their best to drive a wedge between India and China to deflect their inability to rein in the terrorists so their Chinese masters don't pile up the pressure and castigate them.