p2prada
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Live in your bubble. GTRE has nothing to do with HAL or even MKI. You don't know even the basics of our industry and you come here making tall claims.Wrong, GTRE makes directionally solidified blades for Kaveri. Not SCB...
Shaping the alloys into engine parts is an equal challenge. GTRE has learned how to make "directionally solidified" turbine blades; but it has not mastered the making of "single-crystal blades", which are now standard.
Broadsword: Defence ministry goes global in search for Kaveri partner
How about I make the claim it is Airbus which makes Rafale? Do you see how dubious your claims are?
[qoute]It is pretty funny when Russian MIC has to buy 25yr old fab machines from China. [/quote]
Does it matter?
Check again. Time, money and degradation of stealth was the deciding factor, not Russian involvement. As a matter of fact, if we had the money required, we would have taken up development of the twin seater as easy as day. It has nothing to do with Russian decision, it is our decision. Russia has the PAKFA program as well.Really? I heard it was because it wasn't a priority for Russia to develop so they told India no.
Oh, you were there were you? Indian scientists and technicians are already there in Russia. They left months ago.Really, I don't see any Indian scientists working at NIIP. The leg work on the radar is already done.
You also conveniently missed the fact that India has a more specific requirement for a 360 degree radar capability along with possible IAF specific modifications.
HAL has a full scale design industry as well. Many people don't know it. How else do you think they have been working on trainers and helicopters? There was a major debate within the military for not letting HAL handle LCA instead of giving the project to DRDO, who had no experience in the field.DRDO is the research arm of Indian MIC. If India is going to learn anything from FGFA, it must go through them. HAL can't develop a toilet dispenser.
The first aircraft designed in India, the HF-24 Marut, was a HAL project. The modification of the Gnat to Ajeet was also a HAL project. The current unilateral upgrades of Jaguar and Mig-27 are also HAL projects. DRDO cannot handle such projects.
Give me proof for this number.FGFA really doesn't involve full scale development work. The aircraft is already 75% developed.
Lol. It is much better than the Rafale deal in comparison. Even if a lot of PAKFA work is done, it is still far from complete. More importantly, we have asked for 43 modifications which will need R&D and flight testing. If FGFA was already developed at the range of, as you so graciously quoted, 75%, then we wouldn't need a 8-10 year development cycle for FGFA. It would have been something like LCA Mk2, which is less than half that with just a 2 year flight testing cycle (compared to 9 years and counting on LCA Mk1), instead of the six years that FGFA has (same as PAKFA).Russia wants India to pay $5 billion so it can upgrade its research centres and pay for flight testing to finish development. Whatever India gets is just a trinket for the price.
I wonder since when flying 4 prototypes means 75% of the development work is complete.
That would mean the subsequent flight testing of 14 LSP models followed by one squadron IOC and one squadron FOC are the remaining 25% of the work. Wow! Oh, let's not forget that weapon testing and opening of the flight envelope is also part of the 25%.
Nonsense. The only reason France has a slight lead on AESA radar is because Thales outright bought American modules for testing before replacing it with their own. The Russians had developed their Zhuk-AE back in 2005, with Russian modules. They did not receive help that the French did. As a matter of fact, unlike the French the Russians have already developed multiple AESA fighter radars through two design houses, and for much larger arrays to boot. Heck, NIIP is developing multiple radars for PAKFA alone, as compared to Thales's one radar on Rafale.Really? The fabrication and avionics of Rafale are what Russia only hopes they can develop with FGFA. Unfortunately their industrial capacity to develop such advances is still based on Soviet era infrastructure and an R&D budget that is so low it requires India to pick up the tab.