Naxals/Maoists Watch

[Kunal Biswas]

if a IA base is placed in that forest,
and whole forest must be under control of IA, and any one entering that forest with gun will be shot.
i see defeat of IA in future with maoists in this particular scenario.. .

Military conduct are not like this......................

We Respect locals and Locals respect us, Thats why we are still in Kashmir and terrorism is in its down fall.....

 

[nitesh]

it is not true, in politics things are not done as said,
if a IA base is placed in that forest,
and whole forest must be under control of IA, and any one entering that forest with gun will be shot.

i see defeat of IA in future with maoists in this particular scenario...

Please don't pass on your assumptions as facts, IA clearly said, they don't want to involve in this directly.

 

[bhramos]

Military conduct are not like this......................

We Respect locals and Locals respect us, Thats why we are still in Kashmir and terrorism is in its down fall.....

I'm not tellling about locals,
But if any people comes with Guns, or roam with guns around the base???
Please dont bring Kashmir, both are Different scenarios,....

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I'm not tellling about locals,
But if any people comes with Guns, or roam with guns around the base???
Please dont bring Kashmir, both are Different scenarios,....

Handling of Civilians is something IA do better than anyone, Kashmir is a good example, Our most of the Intel comes from Locals not RAW or south-block, If Moist Rome around the base with gun we will warn them as we do in CT environments, If not surrender they will be captured or kill..

Kashmir is related to Mosit terrorists, The only difference is IA is handling Kashmir where tangos are equipped with NV, RPGs & IEDs, And Moiest are killing Paramilitary everyday with outdated 303 and IEDs..

 

[bhramos]

Handling of Civilians is something IA do better than anyone, Kashmir is a good example, Our most of the Intel comes from Locals not RAW or south-block, If Moist Rome around the base with gun we will warn them as we do in CT environments, If not surrender they will be captured or kill..

Kashmir is related to Mosit terrorists, The only difference is IA is handling Kashmir where tangos are equipped with NV, RPGs & IEDs, And Moiest are killing Paramilitary everyday with outdated 303 and IEDs..

I dont say, these Maoists can't cleaned, but this takes time, in mean while a lot of blood shed happens, weather anyside, they get funding from Missionaries [ Foriegn funds] in big sum, as i lived my life till now in naxal infected areas. and now cleaned, as soon as it is cleaned, the politicians take over the mines and ore's in binami names, and total forest reserves get vanished, i'm not sure which is correct.

oh most the weapons maoists use are single or double barrel guns not 303's. most of them are highly educated engineers and doctors, i'm in favour of this move, sending army and i think political babus are making IA scape goats here,

 

[Sikh_warrior]

Traditionally whenever indian army had to fight against terrorists in civillian dominated areas (eg Ops Bluestar 1984, IPKF 1987 etc) it always fought with one hand tied behind its back, to make sure the innocent civillians dont get harmed.

and thats the reason IA never went in with full load and held back itself from using the full load, and in turn suffered casualties among its ranks.

even if IA gets invloved directly or indirectly agains maoists, it would still fight with one hand tied behind its back!

then state police are not co-operating with para mil in anti maoist ops in states. the right kind political will, the state police and local admin are not actively supporting the role of para mil in anti maoist ops.

and not forgetting the human right activists who always cry about the rights of the bad guys!

 

[nitesh]

forces are getting better equipped

Sherpa, light armoured vehicle, launched -  Business News - News - MSN India

 

[utubekhiladi]

do u have any pics..................................

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Sherpa, light armoured vehicle

 

[sayareakd]

kunal sir i doubt this is correct picture, there was vehicle which was covered with curtain, may be for launch at the INDESEC 2011. It was around 1PM yesterday and they did not launch it, what ever i could see from the side, does not look close to above pic.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal sir i doubt this is correct picture, there was vehicle which was covered with curtain, may be for launch at the INDESEC 2011. It was around 1PM yesterday and they did not launch it, what ever i could see from the side, does not look close to above pic.

May be this then..

IAF News - Indian Armed Forces: Airforce, Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Space, Missile

 

[sayareakd]

yeah something like this, it was in yellow mud color.........

 

[bhramos]

Traditionally whenever indian army had to fight against terrorists in civillian dominated areas (eg Ops Bluestar 1984, IPKF 1987 etc) it always fought with one hand tied behind its back, to make sure the innocent civillians dont get harmed.

and thats the reason IA never went in with full load and held back itself from using the full load, and in turn suffered casualties among its ranks.

even if IA gets invloved directly or indirectly agains maoists, it would still fight with one hand tied behind its back!

then state police are not co-operating with para mil in anti maoist ops in states. the right kind political will, the state police and local admin are not actively supporting the role of para mil in anti maoist ops.

and not forgetting the human right activists who always cry about the rights of the bad guys!

I accept, IA would not be given rights to handle its issue in its own way, IA should get down to the standards of Police, IA was given orders to only shoot in self-defence, rather then shoot to kill or Operation Maoists, they were just given base...

 

[mayfair]

BSF repels massive Maoists attack in Chhattisgarh
TNN | Jun 28, 2011

NEW DELHI: A repeat of the Dantewada massacre was narrowly averted after a Border Security Force (BSF) battalion managed to foil a Naxal ambush on Sunday afternoon, 3 km from their camp in Kanker district of Chhattisgarh. Nearly 300 ultras attacked a battalion of about 85 BSF jawans on their way back from area domination exercise.

BSF DG Raman Srivastava said, "It was a well-planned and deliberate attack. But we were able to foil it because the men followed standard operating procedures."

Two BSF jawans were killed and four injured in the incident that left an estimated 10 Maoists dead. Officials were, however, only able to recover one body of an ultra commandant. Officials said the commandant had a star insignia on his cap and shoulder and was wearing a black uniform.

That the BSF patrol, who were on an area domination exercise, managed to dodge the fate that befell their comrades belonging to the CRPF whom Naxals butchered in Dantewada has once again underlined the criticality of sticking to standard operating procedures in the fight against a stealthy enemy like the Maoists. The unfortunate CPRF personnel were ambushed by the ultras when they deviated from the prescribed procedure.

The ambush on BSF contingent is a cautionary tale for security forces for another reason: it points to the Naxals' confidence that their guerrilla tactics on a terrain they are familiar with can help them take on the better-trained paramilitary troops. This is one of the reasons for the reluctance of the government -- besides the reluctance of the defence brass -- to deploy the armed forces against the Maoists.

Sources said that around 12.30 pm on Sunday, two military companies of Naxals attacked the 163rd BSF battalion -- that was stationed at Koylibeda — near Sulangi village in Kanker district. The Naxals opened fire and BSF jawans retaliated, bringing down an estimated 10-15 ultras. They claimed the ultras dragged away the bodies during the gunfire.

BSF sources said there were a large number of female cadres involved in the attack. The Naxals had also planted IEDs hoping that the jawans would take protection in the foliage when the attack began. The BSF jawans, however, did not flee for cover and as a result none of the IEDs went off, controlling the number of fatalities. IEDs were also planted en route to where reinforcements could be expected from.

About 13 IEDs were recovered as were Chinese hand grenades, spools of wire, detonators, arms and ammunition. Sources said there was a third military company waiting 5 km away from the attack site.

Well done BSF. Slaughter these Maoist pigs without remorse.

 

[sanjay]

It's time to use deadlier tools against these thugs - time to use drones, and kill their head men. Like Putin said, you should even get them in the outhouse, when they're on the toilet.

Indian Army Raises the Stakes in Its War Against the Maoists - Global Spin - TIME.com

 

[asianobserve]

Indian Army Raises the Stakes in Its War Against the Maoists

Posted by JYOTI THOTTAM Monday, June 27, 2011 at 5:32 am
Indian Army Raises the Stakes in Its War Against the Maoists - Global Spin - TIME.com

June has been a deadly month in the central Indian state of Chhattisgarh, the heart of the Naxal movement, India's raging Maoist insurgency. Six security forces were killed on Sunday, bringing the total number of police and paramilitary fatalities to 43 in the month of June alone. That represents almost half of the fatalities among security forces in the state in 2011; and more than 10% of the total number of deaths, including civilians and suspected Maoists.

What's behind the escalating violence? The Indian Army stepped into the fight. Army officials insist that they are there simply to train, not to engage in a direct confrontation with the Maoists, who hold vast stretches of central India. More than 5,000 people have died in Maoist-related violence since 2005, making this conflict far more deadly than jihadi extremism or militancy in Kashmir or the northeast. The idea of sending in soldiers to fight the Naxals is a controversial one — India would be, in effect, deploying its Army against its own citizens, and it would be doing so not on a restive international border but in its mineral- and forest-rich heartland. But as I reported earlier this year, the Army chief was careful to make sure that his troops had rules of engagement before entering Naxal territory, giving them legal authority to attack if attacked.

That now seems almost inevitable. The Maoists have issued statements condemning the Army's presence in Chhattisgarh and criticizing the state government for allocating land to the defense ministry in a place where so many subsistence farmers and forest-dwellers are fighting to keep their own land. Several Indian newspapers have carried reports from Indian intelligence sources that the Maoists are planning an attack on the new Army camps. Whether they are there only for training or not, the presence of the Army will only complicate what is already a tense situation on the ground and exacerbate the already tense rivalry between the central and state security forces.

Meanwhile, there are continued reports of the repression of civilians. Aman Sethi's recent piece in Caravan tells the story of a village near the site of the notorious ambush of April 2010. The people he met allege a year-long campaign of harrassment by security forces, who considered them Maoist sympathizers. It's a vicious circle that the Indian security establishment has not yet begun to address: brutal attacks by the Maoists lead to indiscriminate crackdowns by security forces, which in turn fuels fear among civilians and their tacit support of the Maoists, who use that support to launch new attacks. Sending in the Army might inspire confidence in India's cities, where people have grown weary of this endless war, but it is unlikely to break this disturbing cycle of violence.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It's a vicious circle that the Indian security establishment has not yet begun to address: brutal attacks by the Maoists lead to indiscriminate crackdowns by security forces, which in turn fuels fear among civilians and their tacit support of the Maoists, who use that support to launch new attacks. Sending in the Army might inspire confidence in India's cities, where people have grown weary of this endless war, but it is unlikely to break this disturbing cycle of violence.

Read more: Indian Army Raises the Stakes in Its War Against the Maoists - Global Spin - TIME.com​

No second guess, CRPF..

I hope the don't ruin our advances..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

CRPF not only needs to learn Jungle warfare but should know how to implement UAVs, Mortars and MPVs together in combine arm attack..

Most importantly their infrastructure needed to be strong like fortress, Unlike in Kashmir where IA have lots of problems with civilian contractors, CRPF don't have such..

 

[mayfair]

CRPF not only needs to learn Jungle warfare but should know how to implement UAVs, Mortars and MPVs together in combine arm attack..

Most importantly their infrastructure needed to be strong like fortress, Unlike in Kashmir where IA have lots of problems with civilian contractors, CRPF don't have such..

What sorts of problems? Non-cooperation? Shoddy work or a mix of both and more?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What sorts of problems? Non-cooperation? Shoddy work or a mix of both and more?

Mix of both.................