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Should the Indian government use armed forces against the naxals/maoists?


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Just look at the list of high profile maoists sympathiser access to core of govt or part of govt all during UPA era and these activists are hailed by our media and what not.

They used to act as "couriers" between the GOI & the romantic revolutionaries. During that time a top important Maochut was cornered. He immediately contacted the PMO via these "couriers". Directive was given from the PMO to stand down.
 

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It was clear cut for Sri Lanka because their enemy was distinguished by ethnic, linguistics & geographic lines.

Which is not the case here.
Yes I am only implying the way the Sri Lanka military conduct their ops behind the enemy line. In that case we have better chances of planting cells within them since we have people speaking similar language and from the same tribe working for us, which clearly the sinhalese never had the advantage to be honest!!
 

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They used to act as "couriers" between the GOI & the romantic revolutionaries. During that time a top important Maochut was cornered. He immediately contacted the PMO via these "couriers". Directive was given from the PMO to stand down.
Joint ops had to be called off at the last minute during UPA-1 on more than one occasion due to pressures of coalition politics exerted by CPI & affiliates.
 

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It was clear cut for Sri Lanka because their enemy was distinguished by ethnic, linguistics & geographic lines.

Which is not the case here.
Exactly... People don't get how complicated these kind of insurgencies are... they kill at will and hide in villages dispersed around the jungle to blend in, calling in the Assam Rifles or Rashtriya Rifles isnt a magic wand.. also parallels with the LTTE are just absurd... the area around Jafna to Batticaloa is the size of one small district, most of which is urban/agrarian... the red corridor spans 30-40 times the area and all of it is largely forested... nabbing a sandalwood brigand took decades..
 

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Things like this continue to happen...

Our politician and babus don't care about poor soldiers life, they knew that we have enough "human capital" to keep an force cheap to maintain with less automation and mechanical units...
"Who needs anti-IED vehicle, drones, etc when you can organise a rally in poorer areas of UP-Bihr-Bengal and rectuite 100 new soldiers against 50 of those were ..killed .. hehe"

Few years back it was applied to our military too, but given more freedom to them and already being semi- independent to our civil service cause it's recovering from the mentality more quickly.
 

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Exactly... People don't get how complicated these kind of insurgencies are... they kill at will and hide in villages dispersed around the jungle to blend in, calling in the Assam Rifles or Rashtriya Rifles isnt a magic wand.. also parallels with the LTTE are just absurd... the area around Jafna to Batticaloa is the size of one small district, most of which is urban/agrarian... the red corridor spans 30-40 times the area and all of it is largely forested... nabbing a sandalwood brigand took decades..
For that amount of area we have more soldiers to secure the area compared to what the sinhalese had. Infact they had lesser soldier per capita to fight the insurgency than us.
 

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As long as this Govt continues to think everything from election POV , maoist won't be completely wiped out.
Everyone knows The Hindu and The Indian Express are glorified naxal pamphlet.
Yet govt leaders continuously write opeds in them and send President for so called journalism award.

Hit urban naxals first then only complete victory is possible. There is no point going after foot soldiers who can be replaced easily. Change the content which we teach in humanities. Fire those professors.
Universities like JNU, Jadavpur are like madarssah when it comes to maoism.
 

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For that amount of area we have more soldiers to secure the area compared to what the sinhalese had. Infact they had lesser soldier per capita to fight the insurgency than us.
My Dad served on the IPKF contingent so this is his PoV (not mine)

a) The Lankans didnt end it in 1-2 years as claimed above... they took 2-3 decades, only the finishing act lasted a few months
b) The Lankans unleashed violence on the Tamil speaking populace on epic proportions, it was BRUTAL... and did it with impunity because the fact is the avg. Sinhala doesnt care about the average joe Tamil.. we cant operate the same... we cant round up villages for jail all men and women for months..
c) Cant compare 1000s of hectares of connected jungles with the North Lankan terrain
d) The Lankan army for its size and its requirement was battle hardened... the avg CRPF jawan is trained and armed to handle communal riots and election policing at best...
 

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Good article about political indifference and how CRPF and police jawans' deaths are cheap, as compared to Indian Army deaths..
Please stop posting articles from the garbage like The Print.
These frauds were calling that fraud Varvara Rao as poet. Stop giving them any traffic from our website
 

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Just look at the list of high profile maoists sympathiser access to core of govt or part of govt all during UPA era and these activists are hailed by our media and what not.

One good point the article makes..about Urban naxals.. The Goi should be more focussed on exterminating the real armed naxals.
Yes, Urban Naxals need to be suppressed, but do not make it your primary activity because it yields political dividends to the BJP, and fighting the real naxals does not help win elections..
 

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My Dad served on the IPKF contingent so this is his PoV (not mine)

a) The Lankans didnt end it in 1-2 years as claimed above... they took 2-3 decades, only the finishing act lasted a few months
b) The Lankans unleashed violence on the Tamil speaking populace on epic proportions, it was BRUTAL... and did it with impunity because the fact is the avg. Sinhala doesnt care about the average joe Tamil.. we cant operate the same... we cant round up villages for jail all men and women for months..
c) Cant compare 1000s of hectares of connected jungles with the North Lankan terrain
d) The Lankan army for its size and its requirement was battle hardened... the avg CRPF jawan is trained and armed to handle communal riots and election policing at best...
Also combing ops etc go very well on an island when you can squeeze people against the sea... good luck doing that in sukma with a few hundred men
 

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One good point the article makes..about Urban naxals.. The Goi should be more focussed on exterminating the real armed naxals.
Yes, Urban Naxals need to be suppressed, but do not make it your primary activity because it yields political dividends to the BJP, and fighting the real naxals does not help win elections..
Urban naxals are the brain behind maoist.
Who is more dangerous:
Hafeez Saeed or the foot soldiers of LeT who can be replaced easily.
 

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My Dad served on the IPKF contingent so this is his PoV (not mine)

a) The Lankans didnt end it in 1-2 years as claimed above... they took 2-3 decades, only the finishing act lasted a few months
b) The Lankans unleashed violence on the Tamil speaking populace on epic proportions, it was BRUTAL... and did it with impunity because the fact is the avg. Sinhala doesnt care about the average joe Tamil.. we cant operate the same... we cant round up villages for jail all men and women for months..
c) Cant compare 1000s of hectares of connected jungles with the North Lankan terrain
d) The Lankan army for its size and its requirement was battle hardened... the avg CRPF jawan is trained and armed to handle communal riots and election policing at best...
The was three stages of war between the sinhalese and the tamils. I am only mentioning the 2009 conflict between the two, where it ended in a year. But I do get your point of them being ruthless, hence the reason why even we have to become like them to set a point like any country aspiring to be a regional power.
 

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