Naval LCA Tejas

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Which naval aeroplane do you think will be scrapped off after the induction of the naval Tejas?
 

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Did I say that anywhere or even give the slightest of hint in any of my replies? I only w more play loant to say that the CATOBAR is the best system for aeroplane launches on aircraft carriers; however it only has one problem that it consumes lot of fuel. So this technology will prove very costly for India since oil constitutes our maximum import. The only way this technology would make sense is if the MoD decides to develop and use a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.
Fuel is not an issue for CATOBAR actually it help save more fuel .- With CATOBAR aircraft fly with more payload hence less no of flights,less no of flights means less fuel consumption for aircraft and less maintenance for aircraft .So it is actually more fuel efficient .

Although CATOBAR comes up with more cost in terms of maintenance as it involves moving parts but when it comes to benefits like you are utilizing full load capacity of you fighter jets and in war it makes a big difference and you wont be looking for fuel economy in that case :lol:
 

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Fuel is not an issue for CATOBAR actually it help save more fuel .- With CATOBAR aircraft fly with more payload hence less no of flights,less no of flights means less fuel consumption for aircraft and less maintenance for aircraft .So it is actually more fuel efficient .

Although CATOBAR comes up with more cost in terms of maintenance as it involves moving parts but when it comes to benefits like you are utilizing full load capacity of you fighter jets and in war it makes a big difference and you wont be looking for fuel economy in that case :lol:

i think what is being discussed here is the fuel requirement of the ship, and not the aircraft. operating steam/em catapults requires heavy fuel consumption by the ship, and given the current fuel prices, nuclear powered aircraft carriers seem like the best alternative. hence, their mention earlier.

we did operate a CATOBAR system with vikrant earlier, but those were different times, with different aircraft having different payloads (not to mention cheaper fuel for the ship!)
 

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i think what is being discussed here is the fuel requirement of the ship, and not the aircraft. operating steam/em catapults requires heavy fuel consumption by the ship, and given the current fuel prices, nuclear powered aircraft carriers seem like the best alternative. hence, their mention earlier.

we did operate a CATOBAR system with vikrant earlier, but those were different times, with different aircraft having different payloads (not to mention cheaper fuel for the ship!)
Against the scale of what large ships consume anyways, it makes little difference. Most of the CATOBAR carriers operated since the technology was developed have been conventionally powered. More relevant is fact that most warships these days tend to use gas rather than steam turbines, leaving the alternatives of... (1) using a dedicated (and rather inefficient) steam-plant to power the catapults, or (2) EMALS.
 

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Fuel is not an issue for CATOBAR actually it help save more fuel .- With CATOBAR aircraft fly with more payload hence less no of flights,less no of flights means less fuel consumption for aircraft and less maintenance for aircraft .So it is actually more fuel efficient .

Although CATOBAR comes up with more cost in terms of maintenance as it involves moving parts but when it comes to benefits like you are utilizing full load capacity of you fighter jets and in war it makes a big difference and you wont be looking for fuel economy in that case :lol:
What I meant was the fuel requirement for a CATOBAR launch type aircraft carrier and not for the naval aeroplanes.
 

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The old Vikrant had steam boilers............there was a story abt catapult being worked with steam piped from boilers during ops in '71.....so maybe furnace oil was the fuel.....
i think what is being discussed here is the fuel requirement of the ship, and not the aircraft. operating steam/em catapults requires heavy fuel consumption by the ship, and given the current fuel prices, nuclear powered aircraft carriers seem like the best alternative. hence, their mention earlier.

we did operate a CATOBAR system with vikrant earlier, but those were different times, with different aircraft having different payloads (not to mention cheaper fuel for the ship!)
 

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Which naval aeroplane do you think will be scrapped off after the induction of the naval Tejas?
Being maintenance-intensive (lack of spare, outdated systems, & unreasonable costs involved), Sea Harrier might get relegated to hangar-queen role (low availability) . Frontline-attack role would be taken up by Mig29K & NLCA, so Harriers are the only & obvious contenders for getting scrapped.
 

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Being maintenance-intensive (lack of spare, outdated systems, & unreasonable costs involved), Sea Harrier might get relegated to hangar-queen role (low availability) . Frontline-attack role would be taken up by Mig29K & NLCA, so Harriers are the only & obvious contenders for getting scrapped.
But do N-Tejas's offensive capabilities match Harrier's? :O I doubt. :confused:
 

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Flight update

2469 th flight on 07 Jan
PV3: 381, PV5: 36
LSP1: 74, LSP2: 290, LSP3: 183, LSP4: 110, LSP5: 246, LSP7: 77, LSP8 : 62
NP1: 8

2470th flight on 09 Jan
PV3: 381, PV5: 36
LSP1: 74, LSP2: 290, LSP3: 183, LSP4: 110, LSP5: 246, LSP7: 77, LSP8 : 62
NP1: 9
Looks like the naval tejas testing has begun in earnest.
 

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Naval- LCA Completes first Supersonic Flight | idrw.org


According to Press Release by Aeronautical Development Agency ( ADA ) Developers of Light combat aircraft ( LCA ) they have informed that Naval-LCA NP-1 on 22-March-2014 successfully completed its first supersonic flight and according to sources close to idrw.org NP-1 achieved Mach 1.1 in its first supersonic flight .
Naval Prototype ( NP-1 ) was grounded for more than a year after its first flight in 27 April 2012 and at that point had carried out only Four flights during initial period of testing . NP-1 was later grounded to carry out weight reduction measures on undercarriage and also to fix issues with its landing gears
NP-1 resumed test flight only in november last year and according to DRDO and ADA officials all Structural issues and Problems related to NP-1 have been fixed and further testing are under way to check and validate modification and changes which has been carried out on the aircraft .
Till 5th of this month , NP-1 has successfully carried out 19 test flights and once first phase of testing on Naval LCA are completed in Bangalore , ADA will move NP-1 aircraft to INS Hansa Naval base in Goa to carry out second phase of testing which will involve takeoff and landing on Shore Based Test Facility (SBTF) which is replica of India's first indigenous aircraft carrier Vikrant being built at Kochi.
SBTF, which was commissioned recently, is primarily used for flight testing of Naval aircraft that operate from aircraft carriers. This is also makes India among Elite Nation since this third such facility in the world, after the United States and Ukraine. Naval Mig-29k pilots are already getting training for aircraft Carrier launch and landing from this facility and soon NP-1 will join in for more testing of the aircraft .
DRDO also is working on Single-seat LCA MK 1 Naval variant ( NP-2) for carrier operations , which is already under construction and will be ready for first flight by year end . Navy already has placed orders for 8 Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft based on N-LCA MK-1 configuration which mostly likely will be used for Pilot training before N-LCA MK-2 which will be powered by more powerful General Electric F414-GE-INS6 engine will only be ready by 2018-19
 

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Beauty on HAL Airport ..



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2566th flight on 09 May
TD1 : 233 PV1: 242 PV3: 381 LSP1: 74 LSP3: 200 LSP5: 267 TD2 : 305 PV2: 222 PV5: 40 LSP2: 294 LSP4: 114 LSP7: 94 NP1: 22 LSP8 : 78

2543th flight on 29 April
TD1 : 233 PV1: 242 PV3: 381 LSP1: 74 LSP3: 200 LSP5: 259 TD2 : 305 PV2: 222 PV5: 40 LSP2: 294 LSP4: 110 LSP7: 85 NP1: 21 LSP8 : 77

In 10 days - 23 flights.. not bad looks like fast tracking for meeting the FOC schedule..
 

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