panduranghari
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Jai ho secularism.If the number of people increases, the govt. will take action for getting more votes.
Jai ho secularism.If the number of people increases, the govt. will take action for getting more votes.
What if it is that sham secularism which is proving to be a impediment in the deportation process ?Instead of discussing secularism, visit social networks and spread the idea of deportation of illegal immigrants. If the number of people increases, the govt. will take action for getting more votes.
All Assam minority student union. Look at the damn name man. You think people will not know its a muslim organization. You want other minorities to be also associated with this for no fault of theirs ?Is this newspaper run by idiots. Stating, "an organization of Muslims". Don't they know that media especially print media, avoids revealing the ethnicity or religion of the groups involved in violence or riots to avoid it spreading it in other volatile regions of the country ?.
that is why some people demanded for Ban on AAMSU.All Assam minority student union. Look at the damn name man. You think people will not know its a muslim organization. You want other minorities to be also associated with this for no fault of theirs ?
Good to see you back Karthik!What if it is that sham secularism which is proving to be a impediment in the deportation process ?
And why is secularism a such holy cow that it should not be discussed. Secularism is just a means to an end. Not an end in itself and India was not constitutionally secular till 76 when Indira gandhi introduced the word into the preamble.
Temporarily online mate. Got a huge huge workload in the coming weeks. Today being the weekend here have some spare time.Good to see you back Karthik!
WB KS,Temporarily online mate. Got a huge huge workload in the coming weeks. Today being the weekend here have some spare time.
This is the best you could do? Pandit, Cameraman etc ete murdered.....tell these stories on NDTV's face the nation type debates, their secular janta will clap for you not me (here)......What is to be done will be done in due course!Then start ethnic cleansing as soon as possible. There was a documentary that was made during Babri masjid incident. People from both the religion living in nearby villages didn't have any problem with Muslims, they were more concerned about the survival and low standard of living,
I very learned Hindu oundit explained a lot about the history behind Babri Masjid and presented very fundamental points. You know what happen ?
The Pundit, the camera man and the reporter were murdered.
What I don't understand is people posting against a religion etc. ?
They are creating an environment that leads to chaos. Believe me its better to solve the problem than discussing or accepting extremist ideology. I agree that Muslim population is rising way too fast which for many people is reason of worry. Add to that this illegal immigrants changing the demographics.
Instead of discussing secularism, visit social networks and spread the idea of deportation of illegal immigrants. If the number of people increases, the govt. will take action for getting more votes.
Where were you guys when KPs were pushed out of their land. Where were you guys even poor (450 million of total population) Hindus(80% of our total population) oppressed on base of their caste. Where were you guys those people who took guns and stood against govt. oppression and became Maoists.This is the best you could do? Pandit, Cameraman etc ete murdered.....tell these stories on NDTV's face the nation type debates, their secular janta will clap for you not me (here)......What is to be done will be done in due course!
Hindus are not an organized lot. They didn't raise voice or didn't go violent or didn't took up arms when KPs were pushed out and I completely accept this charge.Where were you guys when KPs were pushed out of their land. Where were you guys even poor (450 million of total population) Hindus(80% of our total population) oppressed on base of their caste. Where were you guys those people who took guns and stood against govt. oppression and became Maoists.
Leave aside secularism, Hindus are the cause of death of thousands of Hindus everywhere. So buddy, look at the ground reality, when hungry Hindu gets converted to Christian as Missionaries provide them food for conversion. Go and feed them first, protect our Hindu religion. When it comes to survival, a person don't think about these ideologies, religions, caste etc.
Stop putting blames on others.
I will be the first person to clap for you, the day when all Hindus in this country have 2 time meals everyday.
P.S. Give me reasons, solutions rather than condescending statements.
Where were you and your secular brigade who has been in power for 58 yrs when KPs were ethnically cleansed; however the likes of you will welcome BD Islamic people with open arms? You shameless people blame Hindus with a drop of an Hat! I think you are correct we are to be blamed as we are not violent enough to teach our enemies a befitting lesson! Thanks for the reminder!Where were you guys when KPs were pushed out of their land. Where were you guys even poor (450 million of total population) Hindus(80% of our total population) oppressed on base of their caste. Where were you guys those people who took guns and stood against govt. oppression and became Maoists.
Leave aside secularism, Hindus are the cause of death of thousands of Hindus everywhere. So buddy, look at the ground reality, when hungry Hindu gets converted to Christian as Missionaries provide them food for conversion. Go and feed them first, protect our Hindu religion. When it comes to survival, a person don't think about these ideologies, religions, caste etc.
Stop putting blames on others.
I will be the first person to clap for you, the day when all Hindus in this country have 2 time meals everyday.
P.S. Give me reasons, solutions rather than condescending statements.
Agreed. My point was about being vigilant and informing the police part. I too don't agree with taking law in own hands./\/\/\ Ani - What ABVP did was illegal. I am in favor of the law taking it's course. By supporting vigilante acts, you forget that in this facade it could have been you at the receiving end. It's not for right wing extremists to decide who is a Bangladeshi and who is not. It's for the courts to decide based upon facts presented.
Boss making online payments are faster and easier compared to sending a cheque to Bangalore. I would rarther go to Jhandewala and make payments in person and take note of their activities!/\/\/\ Vanavasi Kalyan
"Vanasri" 1435/36, 2nd Cross,
5th A Main,D Block, 2nd Stage, Rajajinagar,
Bangalore 560010
Send the check to me. I will deliver it myself, in person.
Maintain civility, buddy. Its no way to debate.Where were you and your secular brigade who has been in power for 58 yrs when KPs were ethnically cleansed; however the likes of you will welcome BD Islamic people with open arms? You shameless people blame Hindus with a drop of an Hat! I think you are correct we are to be blamed as we are not violent enough to teach our enemies a befitting lesson! Thanks for the reminder!
Where was Islam which beats the drum of secularism and riots for Rohingya Muslims where their fellow Ummah people were ethnically cleansing Hindus in Kashmir? You cannot clap with one hand!
If you want Hindus to go and take up arms - protect their co-religionists -- don't get surprised it has begun. This will increase with time as secularism stand exposed and hand in gloves with Jihadis!
Maosits are a result of constant brainwashing by the frustrated leftist elements who could never create a revolution among the educated masses against the GOI, hence they went to the rural setups and spewed venom -- no doubt today these Jhola-chap people proud that they have conceived a revolution and they our able to kill security forces with ease!
I know the ground realities which is precisely not what you are talking about ---- Hindus have faced historical extermination at the hand of Islam -- I'm sure you are not suggesting the Hindus have been wiped out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other places in India by Hindus? If yes, then look at yourself in the mirror - you will see a liar!
Hindu organizations are feeding poor Hindus and this is precisely why the secular /missionary brigade is against them, and creating a mess in tribal areas where the missionary activities have been reduced to few converted pockets. Therefore, they are sending their new-convert to Maoist camps for training to take on and kill Hindus! Do you see the reality?
I will blame whoever is to be blamed and you can't do shyt about it!
P.S: You reminded me that I have to send a pending cheque to Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad -- that's a solution to start with!
Technology will make you lazy. So send me the cheque.Boss making online payments are faster and easier compared to sending a cheque to Bangalore. I would rarther go to Jhandewala and make payments in person and take note of their activities!
Why are you asking for my cheque and wanna get convicted in the case of - fraud? Instead, I will send you bottles of BL and Jimbeam !
P.S: With secularism being in the place of power and media -- vigilantism will become a necessary social norm of the future - you may agree or disagree!
Thanks for appreciating my efforts!Maintain civility, buddy. Its no way to debate.
This blame game will go on and on. You haven't answered my question on discrimination among Hindus.
You are dodging few questions and resorting to personal attack. never Mind. Moving on
I have always spoke about increasing population of Muslims and rise in fundamentalism in their community. I have always stated the fact which is also proposed by many intellectuals is that minorities in India increased due to Tolerance in Hinduism where as minorities decreased in other neighboring countries. It depends on how susceptibility of people towards extremism and fundamentalism.
When I talk about Maoists and the problem there, I talk because of my knowledge from trusted sources (Can't go into detail). Go to basic level of why these people get influenced by leftist. Go to the root of the problem. Kindly provide source for Missionaries sending christians to those areas
Majority of MPs are Hindus, why not pass bill on reducing the growth rate of other religions. Why don't you all make a peace protest and hunger strike to force our govt. to do something about illegal immigrants. I mean, illegal immigrants taken by train on its way to Bangladesh was stopped in WB and those people were freed.
Why Hindus taking a collective stand, forgetting caste, political differences and other mutual problems to tackle this problem
Historically, Hindus are killed by Hindus also. remember Ashoka. There was a heated debate on other forum where Ashoka before converting to Buddhist was compared to Aurangzeb. So lets not go to centuries old history.
There is no point of Ummah as strategic and economic benefits has become way more important, sectarian divide and intolerance is increasing. Only Turkey did for Rohingyans.
All I see is bickering and blaming on other religions.
I don't believe in Indian concept of secularism which is distorted for personal gains, don't support Hindu fundamentalism, Naxalites/Maoists and their cause, Govt. who suppress our people pushing them to verge of taking desperate measure just to save their family, just to live one another day even if it means becoming puppets of anti-India or extremists.
I don't want to change your perception or POV. Just want to present other side of the coin so that IF any member reads these posts, he can have explanation from different POVs leading to informed decision. (I don't think anyone will read it )
I just believe in presenting truth, work for my country and give back to society.
Cheers.
P.S. BTW good to know that you are helping the people in need. Appreciate your effort.
It was answered above by ani....ok I will also answer it for your sake - yes there is discrimination among Hindus; however, we are all Hindus unlike - Shia and Sunnis or Chatholic and Protestants (where they are in constant struggle to prove their path to be the only true path and other including Kaffirs and their own different sects being an abomination)!This blame game will go on and on. You haven't answered my question on discrimination among Hindus.
Nope I 'm not....I'm precisely attacking your messages of personal nature!You are dodging few questions and resorting to personal attack. never Mind. Moving on
Interesting to know you are sane! However, tolerance aka cowardice is the major cause of demise of Hinduism -- Mutual respect is a different ball game, in which I believe! And respect comes with power and fear of retribution in the rival!I have always spoke about increasing population of Muslims and rise in fundamentalism in their community. I have always stated the fact which is also proposed by many intellectuals is that minorities in India increased due to Tolerance in Hinduism where as minorities decreased in other neighboring countries. It depends on how susceptibility of people towards extremism and fundamentalism.
My trusted sources are security forces and babus working in Left infested areas! Btw didn't you see the long TV primetime reports of Church and Maoist nexus? Which world are you living in? Nonetheless:When I talk about Maoists and the problem there, I talk because of my knowledge from trusted sources (Can't go into detail). Go to basic level of why these people get influenced by leftist. Go to the root of the problem. Kindly provide source for Missionaries sending christians to those areas
Strawman or words of a missionary or a simple secular self-goal argument!Why Hindus taking a collective stand, forgetting caste, political differences and other mutual problems to tackle this problem
How does this justify genocide of Hindus by Islam? Are you suggesting because Hindus killed Hindus - so nothing wrong if Islam kills Hindus? So by your logic, if a Hindus kills Islamic people then it gets justification by the facts Shias kill sunnis and sunnis kill shias! Hence Valid!Historically, Hindus are killed by Hindus also. remember Ashoka. There was a heated debate on other forum where Ashoka before converting to Buddhist was compared to Aurangzeb. So lets not go to centuries old history.
Ummah will do everything to first create victimhood and then Jihad for expansion (funding comes at the latter stage called Jihad)!There is no point of Ummah as strategic and economic benefits has become way more important, sectarian divide and intolerance is increasing. Only Turkey did for Rohingyans.
Murder has to be blamed on the murderer and not other way round on the murdered (the secular way)!All I see is bickering and blaming on other religions.
Good for you!I don't believe in Indian concept of secularism which is distorted for personal gains, don't support Hindu fundamentalism, Naxalites/Maoists and their cause, Govt. who suppress our people pushing them to verge of taking desperate measure just to save their family, just to live one another day even if it means becoming puppets of anti-India or extremists.
Again Kudos to you! However, you are not the pinnacle of truth!I don't want to change your perception or POV. Just want to present other side of the coin so that IF any member reads these posts, he can have explanation from different POVs leading to informed decision. (I don't think anyone will read it )
I just believe in presenting truth, work for my country and give back to society.