MTA Program by UAC/HAL

[spikey360]

The MTA is coming in 2018 , i dont see why the fuss so early , just jan 2011 it was decided that its coming in 2018 and almost a JV was finalized. then why this negative news suddenly

Russia needs to work on the PR in india they lack these money bag funded news sources.

Absolutely in agreement with you. The largest country in the world, one of the oldest european cultures has almost zero presence in indian public mindspace. On the other hand, US, with its money bags, is buying Indian media and making aimless youngsters think Ghetto lingo, culture, rap music and all those silly things are actually of any value or taste.

 

[Zebra]

Tuesday, May 29, 2012

HAL Statement: Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has signed a tripartite General Contract with United Aircraft Corporation -Transport Aircraft (UAC-TA), their Russian partner and their JV, Multirole Transport Aircraft Ltd (MTAL) for the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) project.

HAL will carry out the design & development of its workshare of MTA at Aircraft R&D (ARDC) Centre at Bangalore while its Transport Aircraft Division (TAD) at Kanpur will manufacture the prototypes. Serial production will take place at Kanpur where dedicated facilities are being set up. HAL's other R&D Centres and manufacturing divisions will share development of systems & LRUs and manufacture of components, sub assemblies and composite structure. HAL will showcase its expertise in design of aircraft as well as systems, manufacturing & flight testing while jointly working with the Russian team in Moscow as well as in India.

The Indian and Russian governments had earlier signed an Inter Governmental Agreement for joint design, development & production of MTA on 50:50 sharing basis and had decided to form a JV between HAL, UAC-TA & Rosoboronexport to execute the project. The primary objective is to achieve self-reliance in design & development and production of aircraft of this size and also to manage the programme with international collaboration and a large number of global suppliers.

The aircraft will be designed for the roles of cargo/troop transportation; para-drop /air drop of supplies including Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System (LAPES). The joint effort seeks to meet a requirement of 100 aircraft for the Russian Air Force, 45 aircraft to the IAF and 60 for export. Total requirement for the present is 205.

The MTA project preliminary design will start immediately after signing the follow-up contract on preliminary design on which tripartite discussions have been concluded.

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[Singh]

Better late than never.

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Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd signed the tripartite General Contract with United Aircraft Corporation -Transport Aircraft (UAC-TA), the Russian partner & their JV-Multirole Transport Aircraft Ltd. (MTAL) for the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) project on Monday, 28th May, 2012.

HAL will carry out design & development of its work share of MTA at ARDC in Bangalore while its Transport Aircraft Division (TAD) at Kanpur will manufacture the prototypes and subsequently the serial production will be at Kanpur, where dedicated facilities are being set up. HAL's other R&D Centres and manufacturing divisions will share development of systems & LRU's and manufacture of components, sub assemblies and composite structure. HAL will showcase its expertise in design of aircraft as well as systems, manufacturing & flight testing while jointly working with the Russian team in Moscow as well as in India.

The current MTA pact succeeds an earlier Indo-Russian governments inking an Inter Governmental Agreement for joint design, development & production of

MTA on 50:50 sharing basis and had decided to form a JV between HAL, UAC-TA & Rosoboronexport to execute the project.

The primary objective is to achieve self-reliance in design & development and production of aircraft of this size and also to manage the programme with international collaboration and large number of global suppliers.

"The aircraft will be designed for the roles of cargo/troop transportation; para-drop /air drop of supplies including Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System (LAPES) and is to be co-developed by HAL and UAC & Rosoboronexport of Russia through a Joint Venture Company (JVC)," says a release.

HAL & UAC-TA has proposed to Design, Develop and Produce Multirole Transport Aircraft in the 15-20 tone class, jointly by Indian and Russian Agencies to meet the requirement of 100 aircraft for the Russian Air Force, 45 aircraft to the IAF and 60 for other nations. Total requirement for the present is 205. The MTA project preliminary design will start immediately on signing the follow up contract on preliminary design on which tripartite discussions have been concluded.

Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: HAL inks tripartite contract for developing MTA

 

[Kunal Biswas]

At Defexpo 2012..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Specifications:

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Russia, India to produce transports

Russia, India to produce transports


Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd of India and Russia's United Aircraft Corporation-Transport Aircraft are jointly building a new military transport.

The agreement to build the multirole jet aircraft was signed this week by the representatives of HAL, UAC-TC and Multirole Transport Aircraft Ltd, their joint venture company with Russia's Rosoboronexport.

The governments of India and Russia had earlier signed an Inter-Governmental Agreement for the joint design, development and production of the MTA on an equal share basis.

The aircraft will be in the 15-20 ton range. The plane would be used for cargo transport, troop transport and for the parachute drop of supplies. The aircraft would also include a low-altitude parachute extraction system, the companies said.

HAL said the primary objective of the program is to achieve self-reliance in the design, development and production of 15-20 ton aircraft with global suppliers and also to manage it with international collaboration.

The program is looking to produce 205 planes. A total of 100 would be for the Russian air force, while 45 would be destined for the Indian air force. The remaining 60 aircraft would be sold to international customers, HAL said.

HAL, a major player in the Indian aerospace industry, has been manufacturing transport aircraft for a number of years, including Avros HS-748s and Dornier Do-228s.

A total of 89 Avros turboprop aircraft were manufactured by the company until 1984. HAL also completed upgrades on the aircraft and is maintaining those still flying in the country.

HAL has also manufactured 116 Dorniers to date. The aircraft are being maintained by the company's Kanpur division.

Two Do-228 maritime aircraft have been exported to Mauritius by HAL, which is now manufacturing structural assemblies for Do-228s for Ruag Aerospace of Germany.

HAL said as part of its deal with the Russians it will develop aircraft systems, components, sub-assemblies and composite structure.

The work will be conducted by HAL teams in Russia as well as in India.

In other aviation developments, Irkut of Russia expects to receive new orders this year for the Yakovlev Yak-130 advanced jet trainer and light-attack aircraft.

Russia's Ministry of Defense signed last year a production order for 55 of the twin-engine aircraft in a trainer/armed combat trainer mix.

The first Yakovlev Yak-130 export variants were exported last year to Algeria, which had signed a contract for 16 of the aircraft.

"At the moment we are conducting pretty intensive talks and negotiations with more than 10 potential customers, and I believe that in the near future we are going to sign new export contracts," said Irkut President Alexey Fedorov.

No information was provided as to which countries are involved in the discussions.

 

[Ray]

When the aircraft takes to the air, we shall know how the issue stands.

 

[p2prada]

This would be in the same class as the C-130J. I think we need to find replacements for 100 odd An-32s, 17 IL-76 and some 50 odd HS-748s.

Therefore we have plans for 10(+6) C-17s, 6+6(+9?) C-130Js and 45 IL-214s as of today.

If the design works out, maybe more will be ordered.

Max Payload

IL-76 = 92 tons
C-17 = 77 tons
C-130J = 19 tons
IL-214 = 15-20 tons(?)
An-32 = 6 to 7 tons
HS-748 = 5 tons

 

[Bhadra]

When the aircraft takes to the air, we shall know how the issue stands.

Hmm..... the taste of pudding is in eating.... is not it?

 

[blueblood]

This would be in the same class as the C-130J. I think we need to find replacements for 100 odd An-32s, 17 IL-76 and some 50 odd HS-748s.

Therefore we have plans for 10(+6) C-17s, 6+6(+9?) C-130Js and 45 IL-214s as of today.

If the design works out, maybe more will be ordered.

Max Payload

IL-76 = 92 tons
C-17 = 77 tons
C-130J = 19 tons
IL-214 = 15-20 tons(?)
An-32 = 6 to 7 tons
HS-748 = 5 tons

Payload for Il-76 is 47 tonnes not 92. Also they are not likely to be replaced in this decade.

RFP for Avro replacement is out.

 

[Archer]

Tuesday, May 29, 2012

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HAL Statement: Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has signed a tripartite General Contract with United Aircraft Corporation -Transport Aircraft (UAC-TA), their Russian partner and their JV, Multirole Transport Aircraft Ltd (MTAL) for the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) project.

The million dollar question. What is HAL learning from this and what is India's contribution? I sure hope this is not one more way for HAL to keep its order books full and invest in more capex whereas it does just build to UACs design.

 

[p2prada]

Payload for Il-76 is 47 tonnes not 92. Also they are not likely to be replaced in this decade.

You are right about the IAF IL-76, it is a 47 ton variant. I included fuel load as well.

Yeah, they will add to the C-17s for now. But they need to be replaced someday and that day is coming faster than we can make an indigenous replacement. They were delivered in 1985.

RFP for Avro replacement is out.

It will take a sweet six years before we see them, that is unless MoF does not decide to shoot it down on a whim. Luckily they are being upgraded now.

The million dollar question. What is HAL learning from this and what is India's contribution? I sure hope this is not one more way for HAL to keep its order books full and invest in more capex whereas it does just build to UACs design.

Maybe Venkat can find out.

 

[blueblood]

You are right about the IAF IL-76, it is a 47 ton variant. I included fuel load as well.

Yeah, they will add to the C-17s for now. But they need to be replaced someday and that day is coming faster than we can make an indigenous replacement. They were delivered in 1985.

C-17s are fine but it is hard to predict that whether MOD will order more to completely replace the iL-76s or will try something new. As for the indigenous replacement, forget it. Saras is as useless as they come and the 9 ton RTA is not even out of it's design phase and even if it does, it's military variant will be killed by the Avro replacement.

 

[p2prada]

C-17s are fine but it is hard to predict that whether MOD will order more to completely replace the iL-76s or will try something new. As for the indigenous replacement, forget it. Saras is as useless as they come and the 9 ton RTA is not even out of it's design phase and even if it does, it's military variant will be killed by the Avro replacement.

We will know about C-17s after they come here. 2013 I suppose.

Completely indigenous is useless and will never happen. I was talking about something like the MRTA JV, maybe with Russia again. But it looks like they want to start IL-76 production again. It is a good aircraft.

 

[rahulrds1]

I took few photographs of MTA in DefExpo-2012

(Date: 29-03-12)

 

[Archer]

The exterior design looks pretty much done, I do hope India will at least work on the FBW as was the plan earlier with ADE supposed to lead this from the Indian side.

 

[Akim]

The exterior design looks pretty much done, I do hope India will at least work on the FBW as was the plan earlier with ADE supposed to lead this from the Indian side.

To you with Russians nowhere putting money? In Kyiv in May began to collect the fuselage of Аn- 178. With identical characteristics. By year's end he will go out on flying tests.

 

[Daredevil]

Russia, India close to signing pact for $600-m aircraft deal

The joint venture partners for the $600-million multi-role transport aircraft (MTA) project, Russia and India, are set to sign a contract for freezing the preliminary design for the aircraft later this week.

The new development will give the project a much-needed shot in the arm.

Union Defence Minister A.K. Antony had earlier raised concern over the delay in project implementation.

Any further delays could turn out to be advantageous for aircraft makers such as Embraer which is developing a similar aircraft called KC 390 and is expected to be fly in 2014, sources in the industry said.

Both the partners, who hold 50 per cent each in the joint venture through HAL and United Aircraft Corporation respectively, signed a contract in May to develop and produce 205 multi-role transport aircraft.

These aircraft will be used for emergency and rescue operations, cargo, etc. The new contract is follow up of the agreement signed between the governments of India and Russia in September 2010.

N.C. Agarwal, Chief Executive Officer of the joint venture company, Multi-role Transport Aircraft Ltd, told Business Line that this new development was a definite step forward towards completion of the project.

The Russian Air Force expects to place orders for 100 of these aircraft while the Indian Air Force is likely to take 45 of them. The rest will be taken by a third party.

Incidentally, the $600-million project is based on 2006 price levels when the project was first conceived. The new multi-role transport aircraft will replace the An24 and An12s.

The MTAs are in the 15 tonne to 20 tonne category and have a range of 2,500 km and can fly at 800 km per hour.

The joint venture is learnt to have been given a specific time-frame for freezing specifications like engine and also the systems and the basic layout apart from vendors.

Priority will be given for carrying out the work in the specified time frame and also to get the right technology and work within the cost.

 

[rahulrds1]

Indian aerospace major Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd today signed here a preliminary design phase contract with its Russian partner United Aircraft Corporation for development of a multi-role transport aircraft.

HAL Director(Design and Development) T Suvarnaraju and S Velmozhkin, General Director UAC-TA signed the contract which would give HAL self-reliance in design, development and production of an aircraft in the 15-20 tonne class.

"With this HAL and UAC-TA will start the preliminary design work immediately at Moscow. HAL design team consisting of 30 designers will be positioned at UAC-TA," R K Tyagi, Chairman of HAL who was present on the occasion, said.

The primary objective of the project was to achieve self- reliance in design, development and production of aircraft of this size and also to manage the programme with international collaboration and large number of global suppliers, Tyagi said.

India and Russia had signed an inter-governmental agreement in November 2007 to design, develop and produce the multi-role transport aircraft (MTA) in the 15-20 tonne class.

India's HAL and Russia's UAC-TA were to produce 205 such aircraft to meet the requirements of 100 aircraft for the Russian Air Force, 45 for the IAF and 60 for other countries.

After completion of the agreed work share of the PDP Contract in 10 months, Detail Design Phase (DDP) Contract would be signed to complete the design and development of MTA, a HAL spokesperson said.

The MTA would be designed for cargo or transportation, para-drop or air drop of supplies including 'low altitude parachute extraction system' and is to be co-developed by HAL, UAC, and Rosoboronexport of Russia, through MTAL.

HAL would be carrying out the design and development of MTA at the Aircraft R&D Centre at Bangalore while its Transport Aircraft Division at Kanpur would manufacture the prototypes and subsequently produce the aircraft where dedicated facilities were being set up.

HAL's other research and development centres and manufacturing divisions would develop systems and LRUs and manufacture of components, sub-assemblies and composite structure

[business-standard]
/www_business-standard.com/india/news/hal-signs-design-phase-contractrussia-firm/191038/on

 

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