Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

If Tanks have to evolve, which path they should follow?

  • Light Vehicles-Best for mobility

    Votes: 25 7.3%
  • Heavy Armour-Can take heavy punishment.

    Votes: 57 16.7%
  • Modular Design-Allowing dynamic adaptions.

    Votes: 198 58.1%
  • Universal Platform-Best for logistics.

    Votes: 61 17.9%

  • Total voters
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Vinod DX9

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You just said 3BM42 clones can max achieve 460 mm RHAe while the truth is almost every clone of it crosses 500+ mm ....when yourself live in fantasy why should I need to provide proof? I said d what is truth and said what pur official data fpr old ammo shows and what it can be now. And yes, you will take word of mouth if there is logic in it.
 

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Still if you want, yes , we can give you too, including third party neutral source
 

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Find me one Indian round that achieves 600mm and is in service, there is none. The bm42 clone made by OFB barely reaches 460mm at zero degrees.

The latest Arjun also does at 500mm, that to with no pics of stats and just word of mouth.
FSAPDS Mk-II has penetration of 500mm in 230mm RHA plate, range beyond 2km. T-90 has around 800mm RHA frontal armor against 125mm APFSDS. Arjun mk-2 will use HNS steel produced by Jingal/DRDO, not much info yet.

Now be specific and tell penetration of Nazia-2? or VT-4 ammo in how much RHA steel armor. And about armour of VT-4 or other MBT in service by pak.
 

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FSAPDS Mk-II has penetration of 500mm in 230mm RHA plate, range beyond 2km. T-90 has around 800mm RHA frontal armor against 125mm APFSDS. Arjun mk-2 will use HNS steel produced by Jingal/DRDO, not much info yet.

Now be specific and tell penetration of Nazia-2? or VT-4 ammo in how much RHA steel armor. And about armour of VT-4 or other MBT in service by pak.
T-90S has less than 700mm RHA equivalent frontal armour against kinetic apfsds, not exceeding that without ERA.

Naiza 1 is close to 600mm @ 2km, 580mm is certified.

NAiza 2 is prett much classified, but is estimated to do somewhere between 630-660mm RHA @ 2,5km.

VT-4 brought with it a new round, an improvement over type2m, is claimed to reach 680mm RHA @ 2km.

There is ARDE P12 roun that was tested and certified last year, estimated RHA penetration value @2km is 670-690mm

About armour, its always classified stuff. At best,, you will get estimated RHA value.
 

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You just said 3BM42 clones can max achieve 460 mm RHAe while the truth is almost every clone of it crosses 500+ mm ....when yourself live in fantasy why should I need to provide proof? I said d what is truth and said what pur official data fpr old ammo shows and what it can be now. And yes, you will take word of mouth if there is logic in it.
do some search, you will find some valuable data on bm-42 clone in this very thread.
 

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T-90S has less than 700mm RHA equivalent frontal armour against kinetic apfsds, not exceeding that without ERA.

Naiza 1 is close to 600mm @ 2km, 580mm is certified.

NAiza 2 is prett much classified, but is estimated to do somewhere between 630-660mm RHA @ 2,5km.

VT-4 brought with it a new round, an improvement over type2m, is claimed to reach 680mm RHA @ 2km.

There is ARDE P12 roun that was tested and certified last year, estimated RHA penetration value @2km is 670-690mm

About armour, its always classified stuff. At best,, you will get estimated RHA value.
Lets forget the tank had composite armor then its basically 500mm+230mm penetration for FSAPDS Mk-II . Similarly, at what type of steel they were tested?? T-90S has above 750+mm for sure, looks to me Naiza-2 or others can't penetrate T-90 beyond 2km let alone talking about Arjun mk-2.
 
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Lets forget the tank had composite armor then its basically 500mm+230mm penetration for FSAPDS Mk-II . Similarly, at what type of steel they were tested?? T-90S has above 750+mm for sure, looks to me Naiza-2 or others can't penetrate T-90 beyond 2km let alone talking about Arjun mk-2.
Tested against high hardened steel (HHS), the t-90S turret is made from medium hardness steel at best. This will give it less protection against high speed incoming apfsds rounds reaching over 1700m/s velocity. Also, the frontal turret protection of t-90 does not go more than 650mm at any part unless equipped with Kontakt 5 or better ERA plates.

Frontal armor or Arjun is not much different and has been discussed in this very thread. All you need to do is to scroll back to relevant pages.
 

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Iraq: the American Abrams and the Russian T-90 in one combat formation

The Iraqi Armed Forces have a unique situation. In one combat formation are now military vehicles produced in the Soviet era, manufactured in modern Russia and sold by a recent ally of Iraq - the United States.





http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-24506.htm
 

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CGI Animation demonstration of the capablities of the T-14 Armata main battle tank.

 

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From the spot, they report and show that the second batch (2 regimental kit of 52 tanks) T-90S / SK arrives on trailers to Baghdad.

Beautiful clean tanks on beautiful clean trailers drive along a beautiful clean road.

The effectiveness of the application and the best qualities of these tanks will be shown only by a quality crew, as practice has shown: there are no bad tanks, there are bad crews that can not squeeze out of their car all of its capabilities.




 

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From the spot, they report and show that the second batch (2 regimental kit of 52 tanks) T-90S / SK arrives on trailers to Baghdad.

Beautiful clean tanks on beautiful clean trailers drive along a beautiful clean road.

The effectiveness of the application and the best qualities of these tanks will be shown only by a quality crew, as practice has shown: there are no bad tanks, there are bad crews that can not squeeze out of their car all of its capabilities.




Next Abrams, Leo 2 and Leclerc meal.... :pound:
 

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