LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[Satish Sharma]

Still no super sonic drop tanka for tejas ....

It has got supersonic ext. Tanks way back. It came with FOC.

Finally, IOC for Tejas

Till date, over 2,450 sorties have been flown to achieve initial operational clearance which coincidentally is timed with the retirement of the MiG-21 FL fleet.

www.sps-aviation.com

 

[Azaad]

Jaguars are also used for Maritime strike. They have harpoons iirc. Lca still lacks an anti-ship missile plus double engine of jaguars provide reliability over sea.

Yes I'm aware of it . However with the MiG-29K now being the first choice for maritime strike , I'm not sure if the Jaguars will play the same role as before ,rather it'd play second fiddle to the MiG-29K.

 

[IndianHawk]

Yes I'm aware of it . However with the MiG-29K now being the first choice for maritime strike , I'm not sure if the Jaguars will play the same role as before ,rather it'd play second fiddle to the MiG-29K.

Mig 29k are carrier based. Jags are shore based. Different operational posture.

Jag based at naliya can attack ships in gwadar port with harpoons .
Besides mig29k are too few compared to jaguars.

 

[NutCracker]

It has got supersonic ext. Tanks way back. It came with FOC.

Finally, IOC for Tejas

Till date, over 2,450 sorties have been flown to achieve initial operational clearance which coincidentally is timed with the retirement of the MiG-21 FL fleet.

www.sps-aviation.com

Read that 2014's article properly. It's says that FOC will contain SS drop tanks , but when LCA recieved FOC in 2019 it lacked that. It's among few compromises IAF made that we read news about.

 

[Satish Sharma]

Read that 2014's article properly. It's says that FOC will contain SS drop tanks , but when LCA recieved FOC in 2019 it lacked that. It's among few compromises IAF made that we read news about.

it did mention FOC will have at the end of article so I thought I must have gotten it.. I never heard that iaf did not receive ss tanks with FOC..
May be mk1a will get it..

 

[NutCracker]

it did mention FOC will have at the end of article so I thought I must have gotten it

So ?? Is it the first time you are hearing that planned deliverables were not delivered by DPSUs?

I never heard that iaf did not receive ss tanks with FOC..

We have 1 sqdrn of FOC flying , not a single picture of SS drop tanks.

 

[Narasimh]

So ?? Is it the first time you are hearing that planned deliverables were not delivered?


We have 1 sqdrn of FOC flying , not a single picture of SS drop tanks.

Hold up.. i can't recall whether it was DDR or indranil Roy who settled this sometime back that Tejas flight regimes do not need a supersonic drop tank.. does anybody recall?

 

[patriots]

So ?? Is it the first time you are hearing that planned deliverables were not delivered by DPSUs?


We have 1 sqdrn of FOC flying , not a single picture of SS drop tanks.

Still now tejas didn't have ss drop tanks , for now ss drop tanks is relaxed ,can be achieved later ,
Bvr capability, gun trial is being prioritised

 

[NutCracker]

Still now tejas didn't have ss drop tanks , for now ss drop tanks is relaxed ,can be achieved later ,
Bvr capability, gun trial is being prioritised

SS tank should've been prioritised above gun. Guns are literally useless in 2020s and beyond.
Even F22 didn't chose to shoot down chinese balloon using gun.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

the same AD that didnt even register as a Brahmos came screaming in through their densest corps and division HQs?

Herbivores tend to not fuck with alpha predators. Cut the poor chinese AD complex some slack, he's long way from home.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Mk1A is good mini omnirole aircraft.

But for dedicated ground attack role,
Jag > mk1A.

Jaguars are phasing engine issues. They are not good enough for most of the roles except bombing in nearby areas. If we can get good engines for them, we can use them for one more decades,

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I still don't understand how people can even consider jaguars as jets in 2024, it's better to replace them completely with combat drones.
With multirole aircrafts already in the fleet why do we even need jaguars

For one simple reason. Number.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Hold up.. i can't recall whether it was DDR or indranil Roy who settled this sometime back that Tejas flight regimes do not need a supersonic drop tank.. does anybody recall?

I do not know that but drop tank designed for Tejas are supersonic drop tank which creates minimum drag. Drag upto 2 counts only. There were extensive studies on Improvement of aerodynamic performance of Tejas including redesigning of cockpit (External design) and other small changes in body which will improve trans-sonic acceleration by 20% and highest speed by 2% and fuel capacity by 60 k.g., improvement in AOA and STR.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[NutCracker]

I do not know that but drop tank designed for Tejas are supersonic drop tank which creates minimum drag. Drag upto 2 counts only. There were extensive studies on Improvement of aerodynamic performance of Tejas including redesigning of cockpit (External design) and other small changes in body which will improve trans-sonic acceleration by 20% and highest speed by 2% and fuel capacity by 60 k.g., improvement in AOA and STR.

But we have yet to see Supersonic drop tanks installed in LCA. it's been a decade since IOC and Supersonic droptanks were supposed to feature in FOC, but we don't even know at what stage of fabrication those tanks are currently .

 

[Bleh]

SS tanks aren't of any use unless the flight envelope is expanded. It was meant for Mark 1A.
Maybe we'll see it in near future.

There was also lower drag 1360 lt fuel tanks under design. All of those are under backburners rn. Once Mark1A get in service they'll be revived.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

SS tanks aren't of any use unless the flight envelope is expanded. It was meant for Mark 1A.
Maybe we'll see it in near future.

There was also lower drag 1360 lt fuel tanks under design. All of those are under backburners rn. Once Mark1A get in service they'll be revived.

If I remember correctly, it was a Composite material Drop Tank.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I do not know that but drop tank designed for Tejas are supersonic drop tank which creates minimum drag. Drag upto 2 counts only. There were extensive studies on Improvement of aerodynamic performance of Tejas including redesigning of cockpit (External design) and other small changes in body which will improve trans-sonic acceleration by 20% and highest speed by 2% and fuel capacity by 60 k.g., improvement in AOA and STR.

New Electronics are bound to come. I am more interested in Aerodynamic improvement and performance enhancement of platform as it is going to be permanent. A faster and more agile platform can give an edge over enemy in survival and combat.

 

[pankaj nema]

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Mig 29k are carrier based. Jags are shore based. Different operational posture.

Jag based at naliya can attack ships in gwadar port with harpoons .
Besides mig29k are too few compared to jaguars.

In close Combat, Mig-29 are lethal. We have developed very good EW suite for Mig 29 in collaboration with Israel.