LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[BON PLAN]

Lca mk1a render by halView attachment 238738

Heavy config !

 

[Satish Sharma]

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[HariPrasad-1]

Israel bars AESA radar export to India

The Israeli defence ministry has blocked the potential export sale of Israel Aerospace Industries' EL/M-2052 active electronically scanned array radar to a number of countries, with its action having an immediate impact on the Indian market. The restrictions were imposed following pressure...

defenceforumindia.com

Great news. That will help us to Indigenize the AESA technology though it may take a little time.

 

[NutCracker]

Great news. That will help us to Indigenize the AESA technology though it may take a little time.

That thread is from 2011.

 

[Satish Sharma]

Great news. That will help us to Indigenize the AESA technology though it may take a little time.

At that time aesa was very big thing definetely usa must be pressuring Israel for that.. as they did when india asked BMD system.. anyways must thanks them.it must have propelled uttam even faster at that time..

 

[HariPrasad-1]

That thread is from 2011.

Sorry.

 

[Satish Sharma]

 

[MirageBlue]

Lca mk1a render by halView attachment 238738

The image been reversed.. the IFR probe was on the starboard side, but is now on the port side in the image.

Good catch regarding the possibility of the IRST pod just above the LDP attachment point. But not sure if this is meant to be on the LCA Mk1A or HAL is just plain lazy in using Kuntal's image without even bothering to check if it's accurate or not.

 

[MirageBlue]

Was the inclusion of the pylon mounted IRST ever mentioned by HAL or any other agency?

I don't think I've ever heard or read about it earlier. My guess is- Kuntal Biswas who created the render used his artistic imagination to do a "what if" and HAL just used his render without even checking what it featured.

 

[TopWatcher]

Itne confusion hai.

Can anybody tell how much tejas deliver to IAF and which variant ?

 

[Satish Sharma]

Itne confusion hai.

Can anybody tell how much tejas deliver to IAF and which variant ?

As of now only mk1 Variant is delivered total of of 33 Tejas mk1 are delivered 32 single seat and 1 dual seat total were 40 were ordered 8 were dual seat..
83 and 97 mk1a are ordered, 1st mk1a will be delivered in feb-march.

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

As of now only mk1 Variant is delivered total of of 33 Tejas mk1 are delivered 32 single seat and 1 dual seat total were 40 were ordered 8 were dual seat..
83 and 97 mk1a are ordered, 1st mk1a will be delivered in feb-march.

97 not ordered yet, IAF always delays order by at least 2 years

 

[NutCracker]

97 not ordered yet, IAF always delays order by at least 2 years

Its better that way , they should wait for 1-2 years and observe the progress of Mk2 , and then take decision about order-size.
We got fresh Mirage2000 spares , Darin3 Jags, AESA program for mig29 , plenty of buffer for MK2 to evolve into proper 4,5++ F16-70 level future fighter jet.

 

[Blademaster]

Its better that way , they should wait for 1-2 years and observe the progress of Mk2 , and then take decision about order-size.
We got fresh Mirage2000 spares , Darin3 Jags, AESA program for mig29 , plenty of buffer for MK2 to evolve into proper 4,5++ F16-70 level future fighter jet.

I disagree. We need to stabilize the production line and ensure the viability of suppliers. It is all about building that military industrial complex and sustaining it. Dump all the old foreign fighters. MK1A can basically do the job of the upgraded Mirage 2000, Darin 3 Jags and upgraded MiG-29s well. It means no longer depending on foreign vendors for spares and keeping the planes flying. Let Mk2 evolve while we build up Mk1A in numbers and solidify our MIC base. That's more important than waiting to get the latest uber fantasy brochure specs

 

[shade]

97 not ordered yet, IAF always delays order by at least 2 years

Its better that way , they should wait for 1-2 years and observe the progress of Mk2 , and then take decision about order-size.
We got fresh Mirage2000 spares , Darin3 Jags, AESA program for mig29 , plenty of buffer for MK2 to evolve into proper 4,5++ F16-70 level future fighter jet.

Is Tejas fit to replace those Jaguar jets? there are 160 of them in inventory .

 

[Satish Sharma]

I disagree. We need to stabilize the production line and ensure the viability of suppliers. It is all about building that military industrial complex and sustaining it. Dump all the old foreign fighters. MK1A can basically do the job of the upgraded Mirage 2000, Darin 3 Jags and upgraded MiG-29s well. It means no longer depending on foreign vendors for spares and keeping the planes flying. Let Mk2 evolve while we build up Mk1A in numbers and solidify our MIC base. That's more important than waiting to get the latest uber fantasy brochure specs

I think Tejas mk1a is perfect replacement for mig21s, jaguars it felt short for mirages & mig29s although we should still retired them with Tejas mk1A. They are taking alot of budget for maintainance it's logistical nightmare we're keeping 4 jet flying...
Tejas mk1A will save alot of costs once it replaces this 2 platforms
Tejas mk2 is really necessity for iaf it will surpass mig 29, mirages in all parameters very capable GaN radar, passive search & track, good a2g capabilities, low maintainance compared to mig29, ifnthis 2 jet would have came on time I think iaf would have been in very great position Tejas mk1a & mk2 can alone tackle western front...
Our mc dale dalals did not gave funds for mk2 till 2013( project was initiated in 2009) just because the engine question wasn't answered yet.. usa & dalals working together to hinder our progress..
Those almost 5 years were wasted at that time..
And even after that we are not sure will we get the engine with tot. There was no need to choose f414 the dalals choose it and fked mk2.

 

[NutCracker]

Is Tejas fit to replace those Jaguar jets? there are 160 of them in inventory .

MK2 will outperform Jags and M2K. And these jets can very well serve upto 2035.

 

[shade]

MK2 will outperform Jags and M2K. And these jets can very well serve upto 2035.

Mk1a that is currently on order can't?
Does it have lesser weapons payload than the jaguar because it is a smaller plane that's why then?

 

[NutCracker]

Mk1a that is currently on order can't?
Does it have lesser weapons payload than the jaguar because it is a smaller plane that's why then?

Mk1A is good mini omnirole aircraft.

But for dedicated ground attack role,
Jag > mk1A.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Mk1a that is currently on order can't?
Does it have lesser weapons payload than the jaguar because it is a smaller plane that's why then?

Even the baseline Tejas Mk1 proved that it can carry out A2G duties better than the Jaguar during Op Gaganshakti 2018.