LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[Gandaberunda]

The deal only gets finished when they're "delivered". One may take 1000 pics of in flight SPs but unless they are delivered to IAF, no job is completed my friend.
Imagine buying a car and getting pics of it performing at peoduction site rather than getting the car delivered itself.

Okay...the deal only gets finished when they're "Delivered". So if IAF doesn't take delivery then the deal isn't finished according to you?
There were 16 dhruv Helicopters cleared to deliver lying idol in HAL complex for more than 6 months because IAF didn't have hangers to park them in its base. So here deal isn't finished as copters are in HAL complex ?

 

[FalconZero]

So .. that makes it 6 FOC Tejas to have completed first flight..

Acc to Idranil 7th is going to be in the air soon enough, which means despite the pandemic HAL is well within on track. Yes they can speed up from here and deliver the remaining FOC ones by Mar'22. (8/9 of them) which is good enough.

After that twin seaters 8 in first order and 10 from the new mk1a deal so a total of 18 will need to be delivered in I guess 1 year + (depending on which line they are using they can parallel produce twin-seater and mk1a).

 

[Whitecollar]

Okay...the deal only gets finished when they're "Delivered". So if IAF doesn't take delivery then the deal isn't finished according to you?
There were 16 dhruv Helicopters cleared to deliver lying idol in HAL complex for more than 6 months because IAF didn't have hangers to park them in its base. So here deal isn't finished as copters are in HAL complex ?

Chill dude. I had already said that this is my opinion in my previous posts. Anyways, if IAF gives HAL additional brownie points for storing finished consignments, then I guess it's a win win for both of them. There may be lots of other issues as to why those helis were not picked up when enemies are at the gate and probably classified.
Same issue will not be with Tejas as Mig 21s are still falling off the skies causing heavy casualties of our honoured skilled pilots, plane themselves and crash area. Both have different priority is what I'm trying to tell.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Chill dude. I had already said that this is my opinion in my previous posts. Anyways, if IAF gives HAL additional brownie points for storing finished consignments, then I guess it's a win win for both of them. There may be lots of other issues as to why those helis were not picked up when enemies are at the gate and probably classified.
Same issue will not be with Tejas as Mig 21s are still falling off the skies causing heavy casualties of our honoured skilled pilots, plane themselves and crash area. Both have different priority is what I'm trying to tell.

I don't think IAF is on a emergency mode to fill it's inventory with Tejas though the squadrons are dwindling. Yes Tejas is Mig21 replacement and so the order is placed to fill in numbers and manufacturing schedule is fixed. If HAL sticks to its promised schedule then IAF will be more than happy for schedule to be met and that schedule may include delivery of jets in a bunch or single jet (HAL IAF closely involved in manufacturing).
We ain't in war footing to just go desperate one jet is flown today and Inducted Tomorrow. Also with Tejas old squadrons are resurrected based on Tejas Induction schedule like flying daggers and flying bullets all these things takes time and going as per plan. Even Rafales are coming in batches and new squadrons ( old names) being raised when jets are about to received .

 

[Aman kumar]

Acc to Idranil 7th is going to be in the air soon enough, which means despite the pandemic HAL is well within on track. Yes they can speed up from here and deliver the remaining FOC ones by Mar'22. (8/9 of them) which is good enough.

After that twin seaters 8 in first order and 10 from the new mk1a deal so a total of 18 will need to be delivered in I guess 1 year + (depending on which line they are using they can parallel produce twin-seater and mk1a).

I don’t think Hal can produce 10 lca in year 21-22... after that they will need another 1.5 to 2 years to produce 16 twin seater... so they have atleast 3.5 years before mk1a starts delivery... hope they don’t screw this up...

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

I don't think IAF is on a emergency mode to fill it's inventory with Tejas though the squadrons are dwindling. Yes Tejas is Mig21 replacement and so the order is placed to fill in numbers and manufacturing schedule is fixed. If HAL sticks to its promised schedule then IAF will be more than happy for schedule to be met and that schedule may include delivery of jets in a bunch or single jet (HAL IAF closely involved in manufacturing).
We ain't in war footing to just go desperate one jet is flown today and Inducted Tomorrow. Also with Tejas old squadrons are resurrected based on Tejas Induction schedule like flying daggers and flying bullets all these things takes time and going as per plan. Even Rafales are coming in batches and new squadrons ( old names) being raised when jets are about to received .

Can you do a comparison of Uttam Aesa with others

 

[Lost user]

Acc to Idranil 7th is going to be in the air soon enough, which means despite the pandemic HAL is well within on track. Yes they can speed up from here and deliver the remaining FOC ones by Mar'22. (8/9 of them) which is good enough.

After that twin seaters 8 in first order and 10 from the new mk1a deal so a total of 18 will need to be delivered in I guess 1 year + (depending on which line they are using they can parallel produce twin-seater and mk1a).

So, only the 10 twin seaters from mk1a deal to have AESA.. etc.. the first 8 twin seaters will be foc .. right?

 

[Gandaberunda]

Can you do a comparison of Uttam Aesa with others

Let the iterations come out. As of now various tests of TR module is going on for different aircrafts. Once it's operational then we can do it comparing to similar category aircrafts AESA. As of now Uttam is better than Chinese and Russies AESA.

 

[FalconZero]

So, only the 10 twin seaters from mk1a deal to have AESA.. etc.. the first 8 twin seaters will be foc .. right?

IIRC all of the twin seaters will be of mk1 type (FOC?). So i guess no AESA in any of them.

 

[Bleh]

 

[ketaki]

i dont have a twitter account (4/5 suspended already)...can somebody please ask the good person tweeted above to correct the info in his infographics...and if possible provide KH-XXXX, TD-XXXX, LA-XXXX numbers also in the same?

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(SP/LA-50XX) 01 to 16= 1st Squadron of LCA tejas all single seater(IOC II standard)
(SP/LA-50XX) 17, 18 onwards till 32= 2nd Squadron of LCA tejas all single seater (FOC standard)

SP-17 was referred as SP-21 earlier (i dont know why, may be they were hoping SP-17 to 20 to be 1st Squadron trainers but that was cancelled)

so SP-21,22,23,24,25,26... are now (SP/LA-50XX) 17,18,19,20,21,22...

total 8 MK1 tejas trainers are planned namely LA-5201 to LA-5208


dont know about 83 MK1A sr. numbers
MK1A tejas trainers will be LA-5209 onwards(probably)
"

 

[Bleh]

i dont have a twitter account (4/5 suspended already)...can somebody please ask the good person tweeted above to correct the info in his infographics...and if possible provide KH-XXXX, TD-XXXX, LA-XXXX numbers also in the same?

"
(SP/LA-50XX) 01 to 16= 1st Squadron of LCA tejas all single seater(IOC II standard)
(SP/LA-50XX) 17, 18 onwards till 32= 2nd Squadron of LCA tejas all single seater (FOC standard)

SP-17 was referred as SP-21 earlier (i dont know why, may be they were hoping SP-17 to 20 to be 1st Squadron trainers but that was cancelled)

so SP-21,22,23,24,25,26... are now (SP/LA-50XX) 17,18,19,20,21,22...

total 8 MK1 tejas trainers are planned namely LA-5201 to LA-5208


dont know about 83 MK1A sr. numbers
MK1A tejas trainers will be LA-5209 onwards(probably)
"

No the info graphics is correct. Sp-17, 18,19,20 are to be trainers of 45th Sq...

 

[Ghost hale]

Let the iterations come out. As of now various tests of TR module is going on for different aircrafts. Once it's operational then we can do it comparing to similar category aircrafts AESA. As of now Uttam is better than Chinese and Russies AESA.

Include israel aesa also in the list

 

[Ghost hale]

No the info graphics is correct. Sp-17, 18,19,20 are to be trainers of 45th Sq...

No. Sp 32 will be last single seat for current lot. Next 8 trainers.

 

[Bleh]

No. Sp 32 will be last single seat for current lot. Next 8 trainers.

Are you sure? Because I checked... 17-20 got renamed to 21-24. The 25-26 that flew yesterday were supposed to be 21-22 originally.

This thing needs a bit more clarification

 

[Ghost hale]

Are you sure? Because I checked... 17-20 got renamed to 21-24. The 25-26 that flew yesterday were supposed to be 21-22 originally.

This thing needs a bit more clarification

Sure. Naming is 1-32. After that trainers.

 

[ketaki]

No the info graphics is correct. Sp-17, 18,19,20 are to be of 45th Sq...

You are wrong...search please hvt sirs tweet about 1st foc jet or images of same

 

[Deadtrap]

i dont have a twitter account (4/5 suspended already)...can somebody please ask the good person tweeted above to correct the info in his infographics...and if possible provide KH-XXXX, TD-XXXX, LA-XXXX numbers also in the same?

"
(SP/LA-50XX) 01 to 16= 1st Squadron of LCA tejas all single seater(IOC II standard)
(SP/LA-50XX) 17, 18 onwards till 32= 2nd Squadron of LCA tejas all single seater (FOC standard)

SP-17 was referred as SP-21 earlier (i dont know why, may be they were hoping SP-17 to 20 to be 1st Squadron trainers but that was cancelled)

so SP-21,22,23,24,25,26... are now (SP/LA-50XX) 17,18,19,20,21,22...

total 8 MK1 tejas trainers are planned namely LA-5201 to LA-5208


dont know about 83 MK1A sr. numbers
MK1A tejas trainers will be LA-5209 onwards(probably)
"

what’s up with 16 Aircraft of TD, PV, LSP etc? Are those still with HAL?

 

[Killbot]

what’s up with 16 Aircraft of TD, PV, LSP etc? Are those still with HAL?

Yeah. HAL is looking to offload the LSPs. And the rest too, I reckon. Thay need only a few units for testing. Some members have said that SL would be a good customer for the LSPs.

 

[Vinod DX9]

So SP 25 and SP 26 made to the sky!