Latin America the impact of the Spanish empire in modern times

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Industria de Electrodomésticos S.A.S. INDUSEL S.A.S. from Colombia

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He is claiming this

We are a great power since we have nukes, we are a great power, but he did not prove there is no technology either in Mexico nor Spain.

He also forgets reality, poverty does exist in Mexico, India and China.
Lets accept facts on this Forum .Poverty exists in all countries ,I am Doubtful that there is even a single country wherein there is no poverty of any level at all.
Poverty exists in all countries but the Level of Poverty Differs from Country to Country based on certain Parameters. Even In India there is poverty, in China there is poverty, Even in US there is poverty. The fact is that Poverty is a problem in many countries. Hopefully in the near future, Poverty as a whole will decrease to a considerable Number.
 

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Lets accept facts on this Forum .Poverty exists in all countries ,I am Doubtful that there is even a single country wherein there is no poverty of any level at all.
Poverty exists in all countries but the Level of Poverty Differs from Country to Country based on certain Parameters. Even In India there is poverty, in China there is poverty, Even in US there is poverty. The fact is that Poverty is a problem in many countries. Hopefully in the near future, Poverty as a whole will decrease to a considerable Number.
If we are honest poverty is the real material measure, the other is happiness.

When I started this thread, is not to boast but to learn, in general terms to understand a nation is to see its weaknesses and strengths.

India for example it is obvious can built technology

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I mean for a person in India, she or he will hardly think in Brazil they have their own brands

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What I mean people might know Ford or Samsung, but it does not mean there are not brands in many countries.
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I will put you an example in Mexico 10% of cell phones are taken by Mexican brands such as Lanix;, 90% of the market is taken by foreign brands, in home appliances Mabe has beaten most foreign rivals and is the main brand selling home appliances 46% of the market in Mexico is taken by Mabe

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I mean it is more complex than what people think, since there are really international brands from Latin America and some locals like Abba from Colombia

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Some brands are mostly in Latin America like Dina that is mostly in the Mexican market or central america selling Mexican buses that has 20% of the market in Mexico

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While others are really big brands like Brazil`s Busscar or Marcopolo

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The world is far more complex to think there are big players.

Military Speaking yes China or India are bigger players, even in terms of economic importance in Global trade, but the reality is Latin America is not weak as many think

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Embraer is an example and the fact Brazil, Argentina and Mexico are food top exporters.

But in general there are still too much poverty in China, India, Brazil, Mexico in general Asia and Latin America
 

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If we are honest poverty is the real material measure, the other is happiness.

When I started this thread, is not to boast but to learn, in general terms to understand a nation is to see its weaknesses and strengths.

India for example it is obvious can built technology

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I mean for a person in India, she or he will hardly think in Brazil they have their own brands

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What I mean people might know Ford or Samsung, but it does not mean there are not brands in many countries.
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I will put you an example in Mexico 10% of cell phones are taken by Mexican brands such as Lanix;, 90% of the market is taken by foreign brands, in home appliances Mabe has beaten most foreign rivals and is the main brand selling home appliances 46% of the market in Mexico is taken by Mabe

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I mean it is more complex than what people think, since there are really international brands from Latin America and some locals like Abba from Colombia

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Some brands are mostly in Latin America like Dina that is mostly in the Mexican market or central america selling Mexican buses that has 20% of the market in Mexico

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While others are really big brands like Brazil`s Busscar or Marcopolo

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The world is far more complex to think there are big players.

Military Speaking yes China or India are bigger players, even in terms of economic importance in Global trade, but the reality is Latin America is not weak as many think

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Embraer is an example and the fact Brazil, Argentina and Mexico are food top exporters.

But in general there are still too much poverty in China, India, Brazil, Mexico in general Asia and Latin America
To be honest, we can't really do much with regards to Poverty, in my personal opinion, all countries like India, china , Russia, America should Keep their Politics aside and work together or in other words Co-operate to try and eradicate poverty. I wish for the best from my side though. I don't have anything else to say here after this though.
 

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To be honest, we can't really do much with regards to Poverty, in my personal opinion, all countries like India, china , Russia, America should Keep their Politics aside and work together or in other words Co-operate to try and eradicate poverty. I wish for the best from my side though. I don't have anything else to say here after this though.
I totally agree with you, poverty is the main problem, and in reality is not difficult to eradicate, but politicians as well business owners are to blame for keeping wealth idle and in few hands.


I think all nations will develop technology, and local industries will build up each nation economy, but many foreign companies will participate too, at the end the big capital is international and each nation has its industries intertwined with other nations industries.

In Latin america poverty is the result of low salaries and low contributions in taxes by the big industry.


Politicians only steal the national resources while national industries lack enough technological investment


Chile has Sindelen that builds some products
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Sindelen heating system
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Sindelen blender


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Sindelen Mixer

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Sindelen electric oven

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Sindelen bread maker
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Sindelen mixer with bowl

 

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I totally agree with you, poverty is the main problem, and in reality is not difficult to eradicate, but politicians as well business owners are to blame for keeping wealth idle and in few hands.


I think all nations will develop technology, and local industries will build up each nation economy, but many foreign companies will participate too, at the end the big capital is international and each nation has its industries intertwined with other nations industries.

In Latin america poverty is the result of low salaries and low contributions in taxes by the big industry.


Politicians only steal the national resources while national industries lack enough technological investment


Chile has Sindelen that builds some products
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Sindelen heating system
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Sindelen blender


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Sindelen Mixer

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Sindelen electric oven

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Sindelen bread maker
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Sindelen mixer with bowl

Exactly! Agreed with you have just Written up here. In India too there is a lot of reasons for poverty.
Some reasons for poverty in India are:
(i) Heavy pressure of population(this happens when there is a increase in birth rate and decrease in death rate leading to relatively low per capita income)
(ii) Unemployment and under employment:
(iii) Capital Deficiency(Lack of capital Base
Required for Infrastructure development etc)
(iv) Under-developed economy
(v) Increase in Price
(vi) Net National Income
(vii) Rural Economy
(viii) Lack of Specialised and Skilled Labour especially in the Rural areas due to low technical Attainment.
And these are just a couple of reasons for poverty in India wherein there are many causes. Don't have anything else to say here though except I can just wish for the best of our future and may one day poverty be eradicated from this planet.
Good day mate!
 
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Exactly! Agreed with you have just Written up here. In India too there is a lot of reasons for poverty.
Some reasons for poverty in India are:
(i) Heavy pressure of population(this happens when there is a increase in birth rate and decrease in death rate leading to relatively low per capita income)
(ii) Unemployment and under employment:
(iii) Capital Deficiency(Lack of capital Base
Required for Infrastructure development etc)
(iv) Under-developed economy
(v) Increase in Price
(vi) Net National Income
(vii) Rural Economy
(viii) Lack of Specialised and Skilled Labour especially in the Rural areas due to low technical Attainment.
And these are just a couple of reasons for poverty in India wherein there are many causes. Don't have anything else to say here though except I can just wish for the best of our future and may one day poverty be eradicated from this planet.
Good day mate!
As a Latin American I see things similar but also different.

The USA, while it is called a western nation, it is less European than Argentina or Uruguay and at this moment is almost only 18% more European than Brazil.

Why then the USA is much more developed than Argentina or Brazil?

The answer is religion, you will say but the USA also has a lot of Catholics?

Well the answer is in the Bible there are some factors you can explain the USA wealth.

In the bible, it is said work is wealth, and laziness is poverty. it is written in the book of proverbs.

All humans are equal to God, you can read that in Galatians and Genesis or Acts

All material things are creation not Gods this is written in Exodus

God is love; 1 letter of John.

Christianity shaped idea all humans are equal, wealth is product of work and work is a commandment, all things are creation thus they can be explained scientifically and they may be used for the benefit of man, God is love and justice thus can not be natural phenomena or creation like animals or weather or the sun or moon.

Americans tend to dislike communism and this is to do to the fact personality worship, Americans tend to think we are all equal, science can get along with religion, in the USA creationism is popular even among scientists,

Why then Spain did not advance so much? the answer is simple, Catholicism has all those traits but considers wealth creation unnecessary, I mean spiritual richness is more sought.


Another problem Catholicism has become less puritan than Protestantism, more pagan ideas have gotten into it.


while modern USA, Brazil or Mexico are secular, the Christian base has mixed with the Roman right code, Ideas of democracy and science.

The USA has become a very vibrant nation thanks to its balance between material wealth and spiritual wealth, Latin America has sought more only spiritual wealth and has a more idiolectic culture.

Today secular politics have poisoned the American society perverting its morals and allowing materialism thus unbalancing the search for Spiritual and material goals.

Latin America also has a caste system where racism has kept millions of humans without privileges among them the native Americans and Africans

This is malverde worship, of Narco culture mexican cultural trait that promotes violence and drug dealing

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Native Americans are poorer in Mexico than Whites due to racism

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Mexican paganism has promoted ignorance and a revisionist history that claims cannibalism, human sacrifice or slavery never existed in the pre-Columbian nations like the Mayans or Aztec
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Exactly! Agreed with you have just Written up here. In India too there is a lot of reasons for poverty.
Some reasons for poverty in India are:
(i) Heavy pressure of population(this happens when there is a increase in birth rate and decrease in death rate leading to relatively low per capita income)
(ii) Unemployment and under employment:
(iii) Capital Deficiency(Lack of capital Base
Required for Infrastructure development etc)
(iv) Under-developed economy
(v) Increase in Price
(vi) Net National Income
(vii) Rural Economy
(viii) Lack of Specialised and Skilled Labour especially in the Rural areas due to low technical Attainment.
And these are just a couple of reasons for poverty in India wherein there are many causes. Don't have anything else to say here though except I can just wish for the best of our future and may one day poverty be eradicated from this planet.
Good day mate!
to exemplify we have to see the Mexican Mennonite communities are wealthy and many semi-pagan catholic communities in Mexico are poor.

These are Mennonites in Mexico, a protestant christian religion, its wealth only can be explained to a work ethic that has made wealth even without creation of high tech
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Racism does not explain their wealth since they are isolated from other whites in Mexico

This can explain part of the difference between catholic Latin America and protestant Anglo-Saxon America
 

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As a Latin American I see things similar but also different.

The USA, while it is called a western nation, it is less European than Argentina or Uruguay and at this moment is almost only 18% more European than Brazil.

Why then the USA is much more developed than Argentina or Brazil?

The answer is religion, you will say but the USA also has a lot of Catholics?

Well the answer is in the Bible there are some factors you can explain the USA wealth.

In the bible, it is said work is wealth, and laziness is poverty. it is written in the book of proverbs.

All humans are equal to God, you can read that in Galatians and Genesis or Acts

All material things are creation not Gods this is written in Exodus

God is love; 1 letter of John.

Christianity shaped idea all humans are equal, wealth is product of work and work is a commandment, all things are creation thus they can be explained scientifically and they may be used for the benefit of man, God is love and justice thus can not be natural phenomena or creation like animals or weather or the sun or moon.

Americans tend to dislike communism and this is to do to the fact personality worship, Americans tend to think we are all equal, science can get along with religion, in the USA creationism is popular even among scientists,

Why then Spain did not advance so much? the answer is simple, Catholicism has all those traits but considers wealth creation unnecessary, I mean spiritual richness is more sought.


Another problem Catholicism has become less puritan than Protestantism, more pagan ideas have gotten into it.


while modern USA, Brazil or Mexico are secular, the Christian base has mixed with the Roman right code, Ideas of democracy and science.

The USA has become a very vibrant nation thanks to its balance between material wealth and spiritual wealth, Latin America has sought more only spiritual wealth and has a more idiolectic culture.

Today secular politics have poisoned the American society perverting its morals and allowing materialism thus unbalancing the search for Spiritual and material goals.

Latin America also has a caste system where racism has kept millions of humans without privileges among them the native Americans and Africans

This is malverde worship, of Narco culture mexican cultural trait that promotes violence and drug dealing

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Native Americans are poorer in Mexico than Whites due to racism

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Mexican paganism has promoted ignorance and a revisionist history that claims cannibalism, human sacrifice or slavery never existed in the pre-Columbian nations like the Mayans or Aztec
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sorry I should have said all humans are equal before God instead of all humans are equal to God, since for God all humans are equal in rights and responsibilities in Christianity.
 

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As a Latin American I see things similar but also different.

The USA, while it is called a western nation, it is less European than Argentina or Uruguay and at this moment is almost only 18% more European than Brazil.

Why then the USA is much more developed than Argentina or Brazil?

The answer is religion, you will say but the USA also has a lot of Catholics?

Well the answer is in the Bible there are some factors you can explain the USA wealth.

In the bible, it is said work is wealth, and laziness is poverty. it is written in the book of proverbs.

All humans are equal to God, you can read that in Galatians and Genesis or Acts

All material things are creation not Gods this is written in Exodus

God is love; 1 letter of John.

Christianity shaped idea all humans are equal, wealth is product of work and work is a commandment, all things are creation thus they can be explained scientifically and they may be used for the benefit of man, God is love and justice thus can not be natural phenomena or creation like animals or weather or the sun or moon.

Americans tend to dislike communism and this is to do to the fact personality worship, Americans tend to think we are all equal, science can get along with religion, in the USA creationism is popular even among scientists,

Why then Spain did not advance so much? the answer is simple, Catholicism has all those traits but considers wealth creation unnecessary, I mean spiritual richness is more sought.


Another problem Catholicism has become less puritan than Protestantism, more pagan ideas have gotten into it.


while modern USA, Brazil or Mexico are secular, the Christian base has mixed with the Roman right code, Ideas of democracy and science.

The USA has become a very vibrant nation thanks to its balance between material wealth and spiritual wealth, Latin America has sought more only spiritual wealth and has a more idiolectic culture.

Today secular politics have poisoned the American society perverting its morals and allowing materialism thus unbalancing the search for Spiritual and material goals.

Latin America also has a caste system where racism has kept millions of humans without privileges among them the native Americans and Africans

This is malverde worship, of Narco culture mexican cultural trait that promotes violence and drug dealing

View attachment 126899
Native Americans are poorer in Mexico than Whites due to racism

View attachment 126900
Mexican paganism has promoted ignorance and a revisionist history that claims cannibalism, human sacrifice or slavery never existed in the pre-Columbian nations like the Mayans or Aztec
View attachment 126901
to exemplify we have to see the Mexican Mennonite communities are wealthy and many semi-pagan catholic communities in Mexico are poor.

These are Mennonites in Mexico, a protestant christian religion, its wealth only can be explained to a work ethic that has made wealth even without creation of high tech
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Racism does not explain their wealth since they are isolated from other whites in Mexico

This can explain part of the difference between catholic Latin America and protestant Anglo-Saxon America
Oh! Wow! Never knew that even Religion also was a factor here! It's quite Surprising to me!

Anyways I know one thing about Society and that is no Society is absolutely perfect, many Countries maybe secular but still Religious discrimination takes place in such countries which is a sad thing to say the least in my opinion.

Anyways I end this Conversation here itself! Thank you very mate! Good day!
 

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Oh! Wow! Never knew that even Religion also was a factor here! It's quite Surprising to me!

Anyways I know one thing about Society and that is no Society is absolutely perfect, many Countries maybe secular but still Religious discrimination takes place in such countries which is a sad thing to say the least in my opinion.

Anyways I end this Conversation here itself! Thank you very mate! Good day!
Take it as a historian.

Societies in the Americas are secular, however religion plays also a part since Christianity molds a way of thinking in the Americas.
Here we have pictures from the 1920s of the Cristero war in Mexico between the Mexican government and the catholic church due to the repression of Christian rights
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And modern defiling of Churches by feminists in modern Mexico that promote abortion in 2020
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Societies are very complex to study

 

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Take it as a historian.

Societies in the Americas are secular, however religion plays also a part since Christianity molds a way of thinking in the Americas.
Here we have pictures from the 1920s of the Cristero war in Mexico
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And modern defiling of Churches by feminists in modern Mexico that promote abortion in 2020
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Societies are very complex to study

Yeah for sure!😀
 

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Challenger a home appliance manufacturer from Colombia
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Despite the fact that Colombia is not a powerhouse in the production of household appliances, the white goods (kitchen, refrigeration, washing) have known how to make their way and compete with the large multinationals. That is the case of Haceb and Challenger, local companies that lead a market that, according to Euromonitor, moved $ 3.6 billion in 2019.

According to the market research base, last year Haceb, which was founded in 1940 in Antioquia, had the largest share of sales in the segment with 31.8%. Meanwhile, Challenger, which was born in 1966, has 9.5%. In this way, two local companies are side by side with giants such as Samsung, Mabe and Whirpool.

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Ibis aircraft from Colombia starts exports of aircraft to Argentina
Ibis GS-700 aircraft
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Dane's figures on Colombian exports in 2011 yielded a curious fact: last year Colombia sold "aircraft and spacecraft" abroad for 507 million dollars.

But it is not that the country is a manufacturer of devices to reach space or commercial aircraft. In reality, they are ultra-light, assembled by companies such as Ibis Aircraft S.A., Aeroandina S.A. and Aerodynos de Colombia S.A., for sports and recreational aviation.

Argemiro Castañeda, from Ibis Aircraft, assures that the company sells especially to the United States, Europe and Latin America. The average price of these two-seat aircraft is around $ 72,000



 

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Quetzal V3, Mexican solar car
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Mexico City (November 01, 2021) .-
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The future of sustainable mobility in the country is brewing in the State of Mexico, where a group of young people seek to get a quetzal to take flight with the impulse of the Sun.
Or, in other words, where students from the Autonomous University of the State of Mexico (UAEMex) work on the design and manufacture of the first solar racing vehicle in Mexico, and the second in the country: the Quetzal V3.

Under the motto of "the Sun knows no borders, neither do we", the members of the Hyadi Solar Racing Team, in which more than 50 students and alumni of different races of the aforementioned house of studies have participated, have managed to move forward what will start in 2017 as a project to put their knowledge into practice.

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Solight from Mexico
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Aerodynos de Colombia S.A from Colombia

Aircraft manufacturer


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AERODYNOS DE COLOMBIA S.A., is a leading designer and manufacturer of certified ULM aircrafts, headquartered in Buga, Valle Colombia. Ct. Diego Torres, founded the company in 2003 with the dream to design and build affordable airplanes that deliver greater control, super comfort and most of all, unprecedented level of safety.

Aerodynos de Colombia plays an important role in the ultralight aviation sector by designing and building affordable personal aircrafts that are safe, comfortable and easy to operate.

The products offered are the JA177 Evolution II™ aircraft, manufactured by the company and the A600 Talon® helicopter from RotorWay International, the world's oldest and largest kit helicopter manufacturer, which are leading innovators with the Rotax piston power engines, RotorWay 162 engines and T60 T32 Solar turbines.

Aerodynos de Colombia has a team of over 25 talented individuals dedicated to deliver aircrafts that fly beyond customers’ expectations.

The company's main export markets are Spain, France and the Middle East.


 

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