Know Your 'Rafale'

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What you're talking about has nothing to do with your earlier allegation that F-35s have to open their internal weapons bay doors every 10 minutes due to heat build up. I pointed out to you that 1) there is no such report or issue; 2) the F-35 has built in internal cooling system around the engine from air scopes under both wings that direct cold air inside the fuselage around the engine; and 3) If there is such problem then the first fighter that should suffer from it is the F-22 as it has 2 engines and thus should produce more heat inside its fuselage. But F-22s has no such problem.

So this claim is balloony.
I don't agree.
There is no evidence that the flaws during developpment are not affecting the inside temperature control systems.
F22 dev was smooth, well best mastered than F35 which is too complicated with 3 models. It's not without reason that F35 is only politically IOC near 14 years after first flight of preserial one.
 

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Maharashtra govt ordered Eurocopter h 145 helicopter for Maharastra police for anti-naxal operation. Did helicopter arrived in Maharashtra.
Why are you asking him? I already told you months ago that it did.
 

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Well the Mig-21 shot off it's R-73 within the range of the missile, if the same tactics were employed in the Rafale, even the Rafale would have been shot down since the Aim was also launched at ranges well within NEZ.
But with meteor , Rafale wouldnt have come in NEZ of Amraam as NEZ of meteor > Amraam
 

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Rafale RB 001 in it's full glory.. such a marvelous looking aircraft...one thing i wonder... What's with that unique black SPECTRA antenna on vertical stabilizer ?? Testing variant?? Or some thing else.....
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But with meteor , Rafale wouldnt have come in NEZ of Amraam as NEZ of meteor > Amraam
Not really, contrary to popular belief radar can't penetrate mountains. Mig21 was not detected even by Saab awacs until it was too late. So flying low or flying through mountains will always work. But Rafale also has good dogfighting capabilities, so it depends on the pilots.
 

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Not really, contrary to popular belief radar can't penetrate mountains. Mig21 was not detected even by Saab awacs until it was too late. So flying low or flying through mountains will always work. But Rafale also has good dogfighting capabilities, so it depends on the pilots.
Also mig21 didn't had their Fire control radar on.. & where flying on guidance provided by ground controller.. perfect passive ambush..

Rafale with it's FSO IRST, SPECTRA..& mica IR, METEOR will be very deadly.. as it can launch passive attacks without alerting enemy at BVR ranges..
 

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Good aircraft but overpriced. 5 th gen is everywhere now, enough to counter f16 though.
The sole problem is : what is a 5th gen aircraft ?
There was a LM def in the F22 age : supercruising, F16 like agile, with sensor fusion. F35 in this case is not 5th gen.
So ?
 

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The sole problem is : what is a 5th gen aircraft ?
There was a LM def in the F22 age : supercruising, F16 like agile, with sensor fusion. F35 in this case is not 5th gen.
So ?
How dare you forgot to mention the most important feature of 5 th gen fighter, must be on purpose, ah? Dont defend Rafale in this case, f35 is world recognized 5 th gen with lowest rcs, you don’t need super cruise for ground attack, plz don’t embarrass yourself. Btw, if India can get F35, they won’t even consider Rafale.
 

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That will be absurd to have a VLO jet but which VLO quality is compromised by weapons bay doors that opens every 10 minutes. Remember that this is not the first time Lockheed Martin has developed VLO jets with weapons bay doors. First is F-117 which as far as I know do not suffer from the malaise you mentioned, and the F-22 which also do not have suffer this kind of problem.
Could be the case with early development of the F 35B after VTOL. The 3BSM central fan is around 180 KN thrust. Comprable to the 191 KN thrust of the main F135 engine.
 

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Could be the case with early development of the F 35B after VTOL. The 3BSM central fan is around 180 KN thrust. Comprable to the 191 KN thrust of the main F135 engine.
Just to put things into perspective.

Chief objective of F35B was to replace and append the capabilities of Sea Harrier.
Increased abilities are as follows -
Sea Harrier to F35B
1) RCS - 5m² to 0.001m²
2) Combat Radius - 550 km to 833 km
3) Armament - 3500 to 6500 kg(1500kg in stealth)
4) Top Speed - 0.95 to 1.6 Mach
5) Cruising Speed - 0.68 to 1 Mach
 

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