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If Reliance goes bankrupt then tell good bye to Rafale fighter jet. Recently Reliance ship yard lost contract to build four LHD due to financial in stability. Now latest news is that fight going on between Reliance ship yard and Larsen turbo ltd. Now favourism charge levelled against top Indian Navy officer by Reliance ship yard.
Do you have any idea how big of an impact Reliance going belly up would have on the Indian economy? It is too big to fail. Rafale International would buy whatever percent stake in its JV it needs to keep operating so Reliance going under has no impact on its operations.
 

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If Reliance goes bankrupt then tell good bye to Rafale fighter jet. Recently Reliance ship yard lost contract to build four LHD due to financial in stability. Now latest news is that fight going on between Reliance ship yard and Larsen turbo ltd. Now favourism charge levelled against top Indian Navy officer by Reliance ship yard.
Dassault is a very well advised investissor.
Don't worry. If Reliance collapse i'm sure there is a B plan. Probably a financial structure already on track so as to prevent the co enterprise from the main brother death.

The financial shape of Reliance was perfectly known in France, so all the warranty were taken, be sure of that.
 

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Rafale F4 Standard

As part of a spiral development, the MoD and Dassault Aviation recently announced the launch of Standard F4, the next major step for the Rafale programme. The Rafale was conceived from the outset with ‘evolutivity’ in mind, and its weapon system is designed in such a way as to facilitate upgrades. The Standard F4 development strategy is based on four pillars that cover interconnectivity, combat engagement/sensors, armament upgrades, and support/availability. Formal development of the new Standard F4 will begin in 2018, but risk-reduction studies will be launched this year.

“Standard F4 will be even more ambitious than F3R,” explained the programme director. “While F3R is mainly restricted to software upgrades, new hardware will be required for the far-reaching F4, even though the airframe will remain unchanged. In practice, F4 will be split into F4.1, for older, in-service aircraft, and F4.2, for new-build airframes. F4.1 will be limited to a number of improvements only in order to avoid complex hardware changes, but F4.1 will accept the new Rafale weapons now being developed. F4.2 will include the whole package of upgrades for the radar, the electronic warfare suite, the Front Sector Optronics and the cockpit.

“All Tranche 4 aircraft – the 28 airframes to be delivered in 2021-23, and all Tranche 5 Rafales will be delivered as F4.2 aircraft. Standard F4 development will take about six years, with service entry due in 2025, but some systems will find their way into the inventory earlier, as soon as they are ready, using a building-block approach thanks to software upgrades.”

Communications advances

With the advent of the F4 Standard, the Rafale will be equipped with the new Thales Contact software radios that will be widely fielded across the French Armed Forces in the next couple of years. These new-generation radios will remain fully compatible with legacy radio waves and should be tested on the Rafale as early as 2020.

The Rafale will also be fitted with a new point-to-point, directional, discreet, high-speed fighter data link to be used exclusively for communications and data exchange within a Rafale patrol. This will use a new three-dimensional waveform (FO3D, or Forme d’Onde 3 Dimensions) generated by digital signal processing using dedicated antennas for the required bandwidths and the expected data flow. This new fighter data link will supplement – and not replace – the current Link 16. Accordingly, the Rafale’s core avionics system will have to be modified to accommodate the two data link systems that will operate alongside each other (although they will not be linked).

The architecture of the internal network will have to be modified for it to become even more resistant to cyber attack. The CAPOEIRA (Connectivité Améliorée Pour les Evolutions du Rafale, or improved connectivity for the Rafale’s future variants) research programme has recently been launched to help determine what sort of architecture will be required for a future, totally secure navigation and attack system. In 2015, as part of an urgent operational requirement, the French Air Warfare Centre integrated a satellite communication (satcom) system into the Rafale. “This system will not be kept on the Rafale,” the programme director added. “The future military satcom will be encrypted, fully secure and impossible to intercept thanks to a military-grade antenna and a hardened modem. It will enable the Rafale to activate a communication relay mode between fighters and troops on the ground on one side, and higher echelons on the other.”

Radar and Spectra upgrades

The current Thales RBE2 AESA radar will be further improved. It will benefit from the introduction of two new air-tosurface modes: a ground moving target indicator (GMTI), to detect and track moving targets over land, and a UHR (ultra high resolution) mode, to replace the current HR functionality for synthetic aperture radar (SAR) imagery, offering superior radar image quality at very long distances. The ability to interleave radar modes will be enhanced, thus helping provide aircrews with even better situational awareness.

The Spectra electronic warfare/selfprotection suite produced by Thales and MBDA is fully integrated. It is composed of a wide range of systems: a Détecteur d’Alerte Radar (DAR, or radar warning receiver), a Détecteur d’Alerte Laser (DAL, or laser warner), a Détecteur de Départ Missile (DDM or DDM NG, or missile launch detector), a high-power radar jammer, and decoy dispensers that can launch a range of flares and chaff.

Over the coming months, Spectra will be improved, with bandwidth extensions for the detectors and jammers to cover lower and higher frequency bands, thus providing an instantaneous reaction against any type of pop-up threat. “Our objective here is to obtain extremely accurate RF emitter geolocation and 3D tracking, including of airborne radars,” said the programme director. “The capabilities of a single Rafale to locate and track a threat without resorting to traditional, but timeconsuming, methods of triangulation or of bearing measurements along the aircraft’s flight path will be significantly improved. It is a very important step forward, and the recent progresses made by Spectra will boost the capabilities of the Rafale in that field.”

Advanced weaponry

New variants of current weapons will be modernised for the updated Rafale, including the Scalp cruise missile, the Mica air-toair missile and the Hammer (Highly Agile Modular Munition Extended Range) precision weapon. The new weapons will be introduced incrementally, through software upgrades. In February 2017 it was announced that the British and the French defence ministries had signed contracts with MBDA to upgrade the remaining Scalp/Storm Shadow stealth cruise missiles in service on both sides of the Channel.

Under the deal, MBDA will refurbish the missiles and carry out a limited upgrade to sustain the weapon until its planned out-of-service date in the early 2030s. The first refurbished Scalp missile is due to be delivered back to the French Armed Forces in 2020. Scalp cruise missiles were first fired in combat from Rafales during the conflict in Libya, in 2011. The missile has also been successfully used operationally in Iraq and Syria. The Mica family of AAMs, which includes the infrared-guided Mica IR and the radarguided Mica EM, will be updated to Mica NG (New Generation) standard with, among other undisclosed systems, new seekers.

The MBDA Mica, which equips the Mirage 2000-5, the Mirage 2000-9, the Rafale and upgraded Mirage F1s, has met with considerable success. Moreover, a surface-to-air version, the Vertical Launch Mica (VL Mica), has been ordered by several foreign nations. Expanded Hammer family The Hammer family will be expanded, minimising the need to procure Paveway II/ III and Enhanced Paveway precision-guided bombs from the United States.

Three variants of the Safran Electronics & Defense Hammer precision weapon are in service: the SBU-38, with inertial/GPS guidance; the SBU-64, with a dual-mode inertial/GPS and infrared seeker; and the SBU-54, with laser guidance as well as the inertial/GPS kit. “We need to increase our stocks of precision weapons and we are committed to helping promote and support a national weapons industry,” the programme director stated. “A new, simplified Hammer variant is already being developed. This Block 4 variant will be fitted with a revised rear kit, without the rocket motor. The wings will be retained, and its aerodynamic shape and its weight and balance will remain unchanged to ease aeromechanical integration onto the Rafale.

Recent operational experience has proved that the rocket motor is not always required, and not always switched on in combat by French aircrews, especially for short-range engagements during close air support missions. In any case, we will retain the capability to produce both variants of the Hammer, the powered variant remaining available for stand-off attacks in high-threat environments. “Other improvements are high on the agenda, including a data link between the weapon and the Rafale, and new seekers to engage other types of targets, including fastmoving, highly mobile vehicles.

We have launched preliminary studies to develop heavier variants of the Hammer to eventually replace the current inventory of 500kg-class GBU-16 Paveway II and 1,000kg-class GBU- 24 Paveway III laser-guided bombs. “Priority is likely to be given to the 1,000kg variant. A new rear kit will probably have to be designed, but every effort will be made to keep changes to an absolute minimum, most current components being reused, including the seekers and guidance systems.” A new, dual-mode seeker was exhibited by Safran at the Paris Air Show in June 2015.

GaN technology

Thales and the DGA are actively preparing the future radar developments that will be introduced on Standard F4.2, incorporating cutting-edge Gallium Nitride (GaN) technology for the radar and jammer antennas. Thanks to additional radar apertures, detection capabilities will be unmatched and electronic attack capabilities will become a reality. The programme director explained: “Even though we are entirely satisfied with the current RBE2 AESA radar, we are already working on the next generation scheduled to appear on new-build aircraft in 2025. “For the same volume, GaN technology will offer an expanded bandwidth, more radiated power and an even easier ability to switch from one mode to another, or from one functionality to another.

With the same antenna, we will be capable of generating combined, interleaved radar, jamming and electronic warfare modes as part of an electronic attack mission. “GaN emitters will not be restricted to the radar and they will also equip the Spectra suite. For example, for the antennas in the wing apexes, ahead of the canard foreplanes, we could obtain a very quick emission/reception cycle, either saving some volume or augmenting radiated power. On Tranche 5 Rafales, we will have at our disposal twice the amount of transmitted power for the radar and jamming antennas. Thales has already produced and tested in laboratories a series of GaN module prototypes for the new radar and initial testing results look extremely promising. “Following the entry into service of the AESA in 2013, the deliveries of the Meteor in 2018 will push the Rafale into a class of its own – we will be the only ones in the world operating a fighter equipped with an AESA and a ramjet-propelled missile – but we have to keep investing to maintain our leadership.

This is the reason why this GaN technological path is so important, especially for the development of additional emitting panels and apertures that will offer extended radar angular coverage. “It is not just an improvement; it is a real technological breakthrough in the field of detection. Jamming modes will not be left untouched and will push the Rafale’s electronic warfare capabilities to unprecedented levels thanks to the introduction of what we call ‘smart jamming’, with a wider band coverage and GaN emitters from 2025. These capabilities will be further expanded thanks to the adoption of MFAs [Multi-Function Arrays].” The Rafale’s Front Sector Optronics (FSO) will be fitted with a new-generation infrared search and track (IRST) sensor optimised for the tracking of air targets, either alone, or in conjunction with the RBE2 radar.

Changes in the cockpit

Although the Rafale’s man-machine interface is lauded by pilots, its cockpit will not be left untouched, with new, larger, lateral touchscreens to be adopted. Because the existing working environment is well balanced, with ergonomics that have proved to be highly successful, the DGA and the industry will introduce only minor adjustments in the cockpit’s design, as part of an evolutionary process.

Long-term future

Safran Military Engines constantly innovates and further develops the M88 turbofan. The programme director admitted: “Contrary to popular views, we are not going to create a new M88 variant rated at 9 tonnes/20,000lb of thrust, nor a new high-pressure core. Nevertheless, modifications to the engine calculator will help further improve component durability and engine availability. M88 technology will gradually evolve in order to propel UCAVs [unmanned combat aerial vehicles], and the Rafale will eventually benefit from these technological advances, but not until the advent of the MLU [midlife upgrade] variant.” Future Rafale variants will benefit from the multiple research programmes launched by the DGA.

These include the extremely secretive DEDIRA (Démonstrateur de Discrétion du Rafale, Rafale discretion demonstrator), which focuses on new and innovative processes to improve the airframe’s lowobservable qualities against air-defence radars and fighter air-intercept radars. “We are currently having discussions with the Armée de l’Air and the Marine Nationale regarding their future operational needs and requirements,” the programme director confirmed. “Many options are being scrutinised, from the development of a UCAV to an increase in the number of Rafales.

Nothing has been decided yet. What I can tell you is that we will not alter the Rafale’s airframe if we do not need to and that we will keep its proven aerodynamic shape. “The Rafale retains a huge growth potential, especially regarding the size of the radar antennas and the dimensions and weighs of its weapons. We might adopt radar cross-section reduction kits, but without radically modifying the airframe. We will keep all options open.

For example, we are considering the possibility of increasing the number of decoys carried by the fighter. In this respect, a DIRCM [directional infrared countermeasures] turret used to generate a laser jamming signal to defeat an incoming missile could well find its way onto the Rafale.”

With such a clear roadmap ahead and with the recent successes on the export market, the Rafale’s long-term future is assured. Dassault Aviation and its partners are constantly investing to make sure their fighter remains at the forefront of technology. The future upgrades to be implemented on the Rafale are ambitious and far-reaching. They represent a clear technological breakthrough in several fields, utilising a fully mature, combatproven airframe that offers a considerable growth potential.


Good bye Eurofighter.....
 

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DASSAULT AVIATION COMPLETES F3-R STANDARD BEFORE ENTERING THE FORCES


Early 2014, the French Ministry of Defense, the Directorate General of Armament (DGA) and Dassault Aviation officially announce the launch of work for the development of the standard F3-R on Rafale M of the Navy and the Rafale Air (C / B) of the Air Force. Four years later, this work is about to end and the standard is about to join the French armed forces.

Indeed, according to our information, all the work done by the companies involved in this new version of the Rafale have been completed and are validated by the end of May 2018, as planned when the contract was signed. , notably between Dassault Aviation, THALES, SAFRAN, MBDA and the DGA.

But the end of the development and testing of the F3-R standard does not mean its direct integration into the armed forces. The modernization of the Rafale M / C / B currently being delivered and operating with the F3-4 + standard will not be done until the third quarter of this year, around September 2018, according to our information.

In addition, the Rafale EM / DM of the Egyptian Air Force and Qatari Air Force EQ / DQ who have come out of the Dassault Aviation factories will also have to be brought to this new standard. However, it would only take a few hours to integrate the F3-R into the aircraft system.

In addition, the validation of all the F3-R standard tests by manufacturers has yet to go through the experimentation stage.Indeed, in a few months, the Air Force Air Force Expertise Center (CEAM) at Mont-de-Marsan, and the Naval Aeronautics Practical Experiments and Reception Center (CEPA / 10S) at the Naval Air Station Hyères will have to define the instructions for use of these systems.




What exactly is this experimentation?

Flight crews and ground staff will be responsible for designing the user manual for all new equipment that make up this F3-R standard. When signing contracts, manufacturers are responsible only for the design of the system and their equipment, their integration on Rafale and test them in all possible flight configurations to see if they work well, or not (all altitudes, speeds, configurations, aircraft-armament separation, with failures, etc ...).

For CEAM and CEPA, the objective is therefore to test this same material in an environment representative of an operational context. Whether it is a flight aid system, an offensive or defensive armament, the two centers will conduct experiments in flight taking into account new issues. For example, they will verify that everything works normally even in the presence of jamming, in the absence of GPS, with adverse threats, in which situations such weaponry is more suitable and what are its capabilities, etc ...

It is necessary that the function that is tested does not take the hand without the pilot wanting it, but also and above all, that it is analyzed with all the types of missions, the configurations and capacities that the crews are brought to meet on the theaters of operations. The work is immense because it must take into account absolutely everything: load factors, speed, wind, altitude, aircraft mass and armament, tilt, attack profile, maneuvers, etc ...

All these tests carried out, user manuals established, always with the support of industry, the operational commissioning of the standard F3-R can then be pronounced. It should be, according to our information, in the course of 2019.



What is included in the F3-R standard?

Above all, one of the major changes with the arrival of this new standard is the METEOR long-range air-to-air missile.Announced exclusively in April 2017 on Defens'Aero and recently confirmed by Dassault Aviation, the integration was effective on April 06, 2017, when firing a fourth and last METEOR missile since the Rafale B301.

This integration campaign was conducted by the Directorate General of Armament (DGA), in cooperation with Dassault Aviation, the missile MBDA and the industrial Thales. Designed for the mission of defense and air superiority to very long range, it is equipped with a ramjet and equipped with the mode "draws and forgets".

Thanks to the performance of the RBE2 radar with active antenna equipped with the Rafale (the only European combat aircraft equipped with this type of radar), it will be able to intercept very long-range targets, in addition to the current missiles MICA IR or EM (InfraRed or ElectroMagnetic), also used for combat and self-defense but at closer distances.

With a top speed of Mach 4, the METEOR has a range of more than 100 kilometers. However, for obvious operational reasons, the actual range of the missile was never disclosed. It can be fired with a Rafale equipped with PESA or AESA radar.

This new standard will also allow the integration of the new laser designation nacelle, the TALIOS, to replace the DAMOCLES nacelles, which are suffering from a technological delay against its American competitors, including the SNIPER, which has been selected by Qatar . All the tests are now completed, after a flight test campaign which opened at the end of April 2016.

According to our information, the delivery of the first TALIOS series nacelles must occur at the beginning of the year 2019 in order to be able to start the experiments by the CEAM and the CEPA / 10S. However, even if the gondola is now integrated on Rafale, that does not mean that its development is stopped. Indeed, at the manufacturer Thales, development and testing are continuing to make the pod even more efficient.

In terms of air-to-ground capability, the pilot will be able to select the impact mode of the guided laser / GPS AASM bomb.In addition, the Rafale will also be able to fire the GBU-16 Paveway II guided laser bomb, whose guide kit is mounted on a bomb body Mk 83. Weighing 500 kg, the explosive charge is 200kg. it is now used by M2000D only. Its integration will allow the Rafale to hit hard targets with a small to medium size.

In the cockpit and in a less visible manner, the Rafale will have a new IFF mode 5 / S, the SPECTRA system will be reinforced with better electronic warfare capabilities and the NATO encrypted communication system, the L16 Link, will be improved. In addition, the radar RBE2-AESA (active antenna or Active Electronically Scanned Array) will be modernized and the Rafale has an AGCAS system (Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System) which allows to recover the aircraft in case of a loss of control.

We will also find the system SAASM (Selective availability anti-spoofing module). The latter makes it possible, among other things, to avoid electronic jamming of the GPS data by the adversary. Finally, for the Rafale Marine only, buddy-buddy refueling will be carried out with the NARANG nacelle (New Generation Refueling Cradle). Its skills must allow it to have a higher kerosene flow than the one in service.
 

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Do you have any idea how big of an impact Reliance going belly up would have on the Indian economy? It is too big to fail. Rafale International would buy whatever percent stake in its JV it needs to keep operating so Reliance going under has no impact on its operations.
Fist of Reliance is not = Reliance, secondly Dassault CEO Trappier even stated doubts about the future with DRAL partnership. But overall it shows what kind of disaster Dassault created in India, by teaming up with the wrong Ambani, instead of taking the present they got for an order of 126+ fighters. That's what happens when you are too greedy!
 

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3.Using the IAF’s Rafale deal one can see exactly how fighter deals are structured and that here there were $5bn in additional costs excluding the actual jets.If you added these costs to the unit costs of the jets and divided by 36 this would provide you a very misleading picture

https://twitter.com/strategic_front
 

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3.Using the IAF’s Rafale deal one can see exactly how fighter deals are structured and that here there were $5bn in additional costs excluding the actual jets.If you added these costs to the unit costs of the jets and divided by 36 this would provide you a very misleading picture

https://twitter.com/strategic_front
Yes !

We, the french Rafale fans, always said the unit price of the plane was 90 to 95 € million. => 105 $ million in your pic.

It's not an affordable fighter versus Gripen C, (too early to speak about gripen E, sold one time at a very discount price), old F16 or Mig 29/35. But it is more efficient : more range, far more weapon load, high survivability, totally versatile, non aligned support (F16 can and was blocked by USA in UAE and Egypt for exemple), strong road map for the 20+ next years.

A real swiss knife.
 

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Although a good report, it is 1 year old, but still funny to see Rafale F4 advertising, although F3R is not out.
As already said and proved : F3R is finished.
As always with Dassault : on time, on budget, on spec ! (some have some lessons to receive).

And as already said, Rafale has a strong road map for the future. F4 is the near future. MLU the next step.
 

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The Typhoon just dropped its first bomb on Daesh today, how long has Rafale been doing that? That should tell you how far behind it is.
Lol of course in your fantasy world (where AASM was also not used with dummy warheads, to counter the shortfalls of Rafale), but the reality is very different =>

Aug 11, 2017

An RAF Spokesman says Typhoon has proved itself at the heart of the international coalition fighting against DAESH.

The aircraft has now flown in excess of 900 missions over Iraq and Syria since December 2015, providing daily support to international coalition forces in the fight against DAESH on Operation SHADER.

Each mission consists of a pair of Typhoons and all told the operational activity equates to over 10,000 flying hours, during which the aircraft has delivered more than 850 Paveway IV weapons.
https://www.eurofighter.com/news-and-events/2017/08/typhoon-proves-itself-in-fight-against-daesh

And as I have shown you before, the French Airforce primarily used Mirage 2000 in Syria =>

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...ce-marks-3-years-of-operations-in-jordan.html

So when it comes to operations against Daesh, the RAF uses Typhoon more than the French Air Force uses Rafale. And that only will increase with the arrival of Brimstone next year.
 

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Egypt is set to acquire additional Rafale multirole fighter aircraft from Dassault by the end of this year, the French newspaper La Tribune reported on 4 July.

According to the newspaper, Egypt’s government is looking to sign a new agreement with France to supply the new 24 Rafale multirole fighter aircraft by the end of 2018.

Under the previous contracts, France had concluded several major military agreements with Egypt, including the sale of 24 Rafales, at a cost of € 5.2 billion. To date, the French company has delivered 14 of Egypt’s Rafale aircraft.
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Egypt is set to acquire additional Rafale multirole fighter aircraft from Dassault by the end of this year, the French newspaper La Tribune reported on 4 July.

According to the newspaper, Egypt’s government is looking to sign a new agreement with France to supply the new 24 Rafale multirole fighter aircraft by the end of 2018.

Under the previous contracts, France had concluded several major military agreements with Egypt, including the sale of 24 Rafales, at a cost of € 5.2 billion. To date, the French company has delivered 14 of Egypt’s Rafale aircraft.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TejasMrca/photos/?ref=page_internal
Indeed.
It's a hot affair.

President Macron seemed to obtain from Trump the possibility to sell SCALP (with ITAR components) to Egypt....
But in the same time MBDA is working hard to study and produce a ITAR free SCALP. It's just a question of some months (and it's probably why USA finally say OK, because all was in the pipe to avoid that)
 

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BON PLAN will Reliance defence limited build Rafale fighter jets under Make in India if selected.
 

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BON PLAN will Reliance defence limited build Rafale fighter jets under Make in India if selected.
I think it's YES at 100%.

The real question is what will be the final indian contents ?

Assembly : 100%
Machining parts : 95% ? (diffusion yielding pieces? Forging parts needed very big press like undercarriage? I don't know.)
Composite : 50% to 100% dépending of price and level of automatism.
Electronic cards : 90% ? (I doubt wou will have access to the very internal cards and core software of FBW, radar, Spectra.)
Engine : 80% ? (you probably don't have the metalurgical process for M88 gen of dawn).
 

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Engine : 80% ? (you probably don't have the metalurgical process for M88 gen of dawn).
India has been avoiding usage of Rhenium based alloys andusing other efficient technology like 2nd generation DS. However, even if India has the ability to make the 2nd generation SCB with 3% Rhenium, the exact composition to the 2 decimal place of weight of metals in alloy and the exact processing technology is needed to have the right balance of engine. So, even if India is capable of making engines of M88 generation, the exact M88 engine is unlikely to be made.

Electronic cards : 90% ? (I doubt wou will have access to the very internal cards and core software of FBW, radar, Spectra.)
No one gives software codes to other countries. Mechanical technology of hardware may be given as ToT but software is almost guaranteed to be rejected.

However, in general, the amount of Indian components you gave is surprising. How much is Indian manufacturing? What you say amounts to massive Indian components
 

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