Karachi Naval Base under Militant Attack

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I have a nasty feeling this might be followed by a likely attack in india ala Mumbai.Lets hope our Babus take note of the situation and do the needful.We need get the western border seal proof from irregulars and ultras first.This attack totally redefines a lot of assumptions about pakistan.

Thanks to our Chinese Brothers their insistance to action against the Lal masjid operation led to the beginning of the end for pakistan.That was the water shed movement when the downward spiral started .Thanks to the Chinese for seeing the indians well being
 

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BadGuy, Nimo, Yan Lan, can any of our Chinese friends on DFI please confirm if any Chinese were matryed in the Jihadi operation ??

RIP if they were........I hope they are dancing with their 72 virgins in heaven.
Please tell your fellow Chinese citizens that pakistan need more Chinese personnel.
 
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BadGuy, Nimo, Yan Lan, can any of our Chinese friends on DFI please confirm if any Chinese were matryed in the Jihadi operation ??

RIP if they were........I hope they are dancing with their 72 virgins in heaven.
Please tell your fellow Chinese citizens that pakistan need more Chinese personnel.
This can be a good money maker for Pak in the future if US leaves afghanistan, take Chinese hostages and make them payup.
 

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This can be a good money maker for Pak in the future if US leaves afghanistan, take Chinese hostages and make them payup.
True, after all beggars want to find new ways to earn money..:thumb::thumb::thumb:
 
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Taliban dangerously close to nukes?

Vulnerability of Pakistan defence installations has been exposed. There are fears globally over whether Pakistan nukes will get into Taliban's hands.

While the Taliban's 16-hour brazen siege of Pakistan Navy's key Mehran airbase in Karachi came to an end, the attackers killed, captured or warded off the biggest question that Pakistan is facing and the world is aksing it. Is the ease and impunity with which the attackers walked in to one of the vital defence installations of the country. It brings up the question - if reaching Pakistan nukes is also as easy.

While little is known where the nukes are, most of them are believed to be in Punjab province.

Some are expected to be at the Kahuta nuclear weapons laboratory believed to be relatively secure for its proximity to Islamabad.

Also, the Pakistan Army's HQ in Rawalpindi that came under attack in 2009 is another plausible site for the arms, as also the Pakistan Air Force's Sargodha HQ as most of Pakistan's nukes are deliverable by fighter jets.

But the world is not convinced as easily.

Pakistan claims its arsenal is safe under the control of the military's Strategic Plans Division headed by the President and the Prime Minister. Moreover the warheads and their triggers are stored separately so that in case there is an attenmpt to steal them, the entire equipment does not fall in to wrong hands.

But with questions raised even of the Pakistan military and conspiracy theories even suggesting possible compliance of a part of the Army with the hardliners, Pakistan will have to try harder to convince the world of the safety of its nukes.

Taliban's 16-hour brazen siege of Pakistan Navy's key Mehran airbase in Karachi came to an end after the elite commandos backed by hundreds of paramilitary personnel and helicopters shot dead four heavily armed militants after an intense battle, while two escaped.

But before they were silenced, the handful of Taliban militants, wearing suicide vests, destroyed the Pakistan's two front line P3C Orion US acquired maritime spy planes and killed 10 security men including an officer and some firemen.

Three weeks after the killing of al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack which they described as "suicide operation" to avenge his death.

Taliban dangerously close to nukes?- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos
 

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Taliban dangerously close to nukes?

Vulnerability of Pakistan defence installations has been exposed. There are fears globally over whether Pakistan nukes will get into Taliban's hands.

While the Taliban's 16-hour brazen siege of Pakistan Navy's key Mehran airbase in Karachi came to an end, the attackers killed, captured or warded off the biggest question that Pakistan is facing and the world is aksing it. Is the ease and impunity with which the attackers walked in to one of the vital defence installations of the country. It brings up the question - if reaching Pakistan nukes is also as easy.

While little is known where the nukes are, most of them are believed to be in Punjab province.

Some are expected to be at the Kahuta nuclear weapons laboratory believed to be relatively secure for its proximity to Islamabad.

Also, the Pakistan Army's HQ in Rawalpindi that came under attack in 2009 is another plausible site for the arms, as also the Pakistan Air Force's Sargodha HQ as most of Pakistan's nukes are deliverable by fighter jets.

But the world is not convinced as easily.

Pakistan claims its arsenal is safe under the control of the military's Strategic Plans Division headed by the President and the Prime Minister. Moreover the warheads and their triggers are stored separately so that in case there is an attenmpt to steal them, the entire equipment does not fall in to wrong hands.

But with questions raised even of the Pakistan military and conspiracy theories even suggesting possible compliance of a part of the Army with the hardliners, Pakistan will have to try harder to convince the world of the safety of its nukes.

Taliban's 16-hour brazen siege of Pakistan Navy's key Mehran airbase in Karachi came to an end after the elite commandos backed by hundreds of paramilitary personnel and helicopters shot dead four heavily armed militants after an intense battle, while two escaped.

But before they were silenced, the handful of Taliban militants, wearing suicide vests, destroyed the Pakistan's two front line P3C Orion US acquired maritime spy planes and killed 10 security men including an officer and some firemen.

Three weeks after the killing of al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack which they described as "suicide operation" to avenge his death.

Taliban dangerously close to nukes?- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos
loo, Gayi pak ki bhans paani me....
 

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Taliban attacks Pak naval base, destroys anti-India spy planes<<< LOOK AT THE HEADLINE!


Taliban's 16-hour siege of Pakistan Navy's key Mehran airbase here came to an end after the elite commandos backed by hundreds of paramilitary personnel and helicopters shot dead four heavily armed militants after an intense battle.



Two of the militants managed to escape in the general confusion.



But before they were silenced, the handful of Taliban gunmen, wearing suicide vests, destroyed Pakistan's two front line P3C Orion US acquired maritime spy planes and killed 10 security men including an officer and some firemen.

Three weeks after the killing of al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack which they described as "suicide operation" to avenge his death.

"They do not want to come out alive. They have gone there to embrace martyrdom," Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told foreign agencies from an undisclosed location in northwest Pakistan.

The 17 foreigners, including 11 Chinese and six Americans, who were trapped during the night and day long gun battle, were also safely rescued.

A sombre, but quite loud, Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik rushed to the area and was the one to announce to waiting newsmen here that the "the siege has been brought to an end."

Malik said those killed included four firemen, three Special Service Group (SSG) personnel and two rangers while another 15 officials were injured.

"Reports that the militants had taken foreigners as hostages were all incorrect," he said.

Initial reports had said that a group of 15-20 militants had stormed into the sprawling naval complex last night in the worst assault on a military base since the Army Headquarters was besieged in October 2009 in Rawalpindi.

Taliban attacks Pak naval base, destroys anti-India spy planes - Indian Express
 

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No more glory, izzat da tukkar please!

The Pakistani mind – a house of conspiracy theories – has gone overboard in creating a new version of Arabian Nights.

Pakistan's only viable and efficient institution has been attacked. Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has accepted the responsibility for intruding into well guarded naval and air force bases; and managed to destroy state of the art equipment – two PC3 Orion aircraft costing millions of dollars – in a long drawn out operation.

The nightmare is over now. At least 10 security officials have been martyred in line of their duty and according to the Interior Minister Rehman Malik, four terrorists have been killed. The facts are unclear and true to the non-transparent culture we are used to. However, Pakistan has been shaken once again at this huge security lapse. Thus far the naval leadership is not willing to accept that this is a security failure.

However, the public at large after the May 2 strike is not willing to accept the usual tale of intelligence failures and lapses. Given that no answers are being given on the nature, motive and details of these events the Pakistani mind – an indoctrinated house of conspiracy theories – has gone overboard in creating a new version of Arabian Nights.

As the shocking news flashed on TV screens and the Internet, the conspiracies started to flow as it comes naturally to us. Let's face it we are a resilient and dynamic society and there is no reason why to belittle the indomitable will of Pakistanis. We survive and carry on with our lives. At another level, we happen to be a bit psychotic as well.

Minutes after the attack took place, Twitter-friendly Pakistanis at home and abroad started to express their bewilderment. There were many – the usual 'liberal' lot – who bemoaned the rise of extremism and the way al Qaeda wants to damage the Pakistani state. However, one wizard was convinced that the Karachi attacks are the handiwork of a 'pro-US militant' group. Thank God he did not tell us that the terrorists at work were definitely not circumcised, as was the case with the Taliban fighting in the northwest.

As hours passed by, the venerated nukes entered into the discussion. Here is the conspiracy: the Americans are perpetrating these attacks to prove that we are incapable of guarding our nukes. The attacks on PNS Mehran were therefore a far-fetched scheme through which we will lose our nuclear assets.

It appears that many Pakistanis are yet again convinced that it is anti-Pakistan foreign enemies who can do it. Muslims cannot be the enemies of Pakistanis so it has to be non-Muslims. These simplistic and dangerous narratives are now being reinforced by a handful of TV anchors and their security savvy guests who are also casting wild aspersions on everybody and their Uncle except the militants.

Even the Pakistanis who are not given to conspiracy theories suggest that this is a civilian failure as if Zardari and Rehman Malik hold the keys to military installations. Worse, many of them also fail to recognize that Pakistan is faced with a formidable enemy – the Al-Qaeda now bolstered by and operating through its local partners such as TTP and several other sectarian outfits. "Army is short of budget and resources" is another refrain. A self-styled 'defence expert', also infamous for hosting a rude show, (which extolled rapists earlier) fired the best shot: 'The alliance between Israel, India & USA is trying to malign Pakistan'. A celebrated anchor at DAWN News alluded to the civilian failure.

How can we ever move towards a democratic society if the media continues to reinforce the conspiratorial mindset and deepen the collective psychosis?

May has been a cruel month for Pakistan. Since the assassination of bin Laden, terror attacks have intensified and their target is the security installations and debilitating the state. I want to support our Armed Forces as only they have the capability to fight the menace of terrorism. Pakistanis will stand behind their Army if it resolves to take a single-minded approach to terrorism and review the security doctrine that has brought us to this pass. However, media persons spinning orphaned theories and misleading the country will serve no one's purpose.

About time the country's political parties stand united on this issue and enter into a dialogue with the security establishment. If this resolve and consensus is not going to emerge then there may come a time, not too distant, when it would be simply too late.

Pakistanis outside the domains of power and pelf echo what had Faiz said in one his rare Punjabi poems:

Mainu shahi nai chahidi

o rab sohniya

Min ta izzat da tukkar mandga haan

(I do not want glory, dear God, I want a decent meal)

Raza Rumi is a policy adviser, writer and editor based in Lahore. His writings are archived at www.razarumi.com



No more glory, izzat da tukkar please! | | DAWN.COM
 

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Pakistanis in general are full of bluster and the avenues to show that are closing rapidly.Pakistanis ,Izzat , auqat and glory do not fit in the same sentence.
 

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Pak army will find a distraction quickly enough to save its own skin and raise its image and reputation among the poor citizens of pakistan. the two episods of OBL and naval base attack has downgraded its image in average pakistani!

a diversionary terrorist attack on india might put more pressure on pak, so this time the pak army may catch some big fish to hand it over to uncle sam!
 

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Latest is freedom fighters destroyed one helis also and partially damaged few other planes with bullet holes.

Freedom fighters were having pak army riffles and ammunition. RAW is very efficient these days..
 

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The other day we had the ISI chief,while deposing before the select parliamentarians over the Abbottabad incident,remark that ISI had already selected certian targets in India for possible military retaliation and even carried out rehearsals carried out for the same.If i were a member of the Pakistani parliament, it would really pique my curiosity to know from the ISI chief,if amidst all these India specific rehearsals,they could spare some quality time for such mundane things like protecting Pakistan's key military bases and nuclear facility from rag militia's.......
 

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The other day we had the ISI chief,while deposing before the select parliamentarians over the Abbottabad incident,remark that ISI had already selected certian targets in India for possible military retaliation and even carried out rehearsals carried out for the same.If i were a member of the Pakistani parliament, it would really pique my curiosity to know from the ISI chief,if amidst all these India specific rehearsals,they could spare some quality time for such mundane things like protecting Pakistan's key military bases and nuclear facility from rag militia's.......
no no They actually did practice how to attack Indian installation on there own base.. wow how serious are they to attack India they actually practice in reality on there own base
 

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Pakistan is a confused state.

They encourage Jihadis, orchestrate and pay for their evil deeds and then the jihadis bite the hand that feeds!
 

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