JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[gslv markIII]

One more point to be noted is assembled.

Google 'List of ISO 9001:2008 Certified Aerospace Suppliers by nation'

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Google 'List of ISO 9001:2008 Certified Aerospace Suppliers by nation'

Damn, pakis are nowhere.

 

[Neo]

Bandar ke haath nariyal.

 

[gslv markIII]

Bandar ke haath nariyal.

Was that remark abut Chinese ToT in the hands of Pakistan ?

 

[Neo]

Was that remark abut Chinese ToT in the hands of Pakistan ?

Jo ek international show kar ke bandar ki tarha tamasha kar rahe hain unke liye

 

[gslv markIII]

Jo ek international show kar ke bandar ki tarha tamasha kar rahe hain unke liye

You mean the one who fled due to the fear of competition....JF 17 Bandar ?

 

[HariPrasad-1]

@Dazzler @Neo
Sorry for replying late. I was slightly busy.
@Dazzler gave some selected facts.

Agree,
these parts are imported
MMR - Israeli
Engine - USA
BVR - Israeli (Derby)
(India is developing Astra)
WVR- Israeli (Python 5)
misc. items imported
Ejection Kit - UKUK
(India is developing an Indigenous one)
Quartz nose - UK (Cobham)
Retracting Ariel fuel nozzle - UK (Cobham)
ASPJ - EL/L-8222/ ELT-568 Virgilus - Israeli/
EADS Cassadian
MILDS F - EADS/Cassadian - laser warning
receiver-cum-missile approach warning system

and these parts are Indian in our LCA

Airframe build - indian
Air Intake - Indian
CFC structure - TAML (tata advance material ltd)
The open-architecture integrated defensive aids
suite (IDAS) Mayavi
Operational Data link (ODL) - Indian (DARE)
Mission Computer - Indian (HAL)
EW Suite - Indian (IDAS)
RAM-1701AS radio altimeter
TACAN-2901AJ and DME-2950A tactical air
navigation system combined with the ANS-1100A
VOL/ILS marker
CIT-4000A Mk12 IFF transponder CABS
COM-1150A UHF standby comms radio
HADF - Siva Pod
SDR-2010 SoftNET four-channel VHF/UHF and L-
band radio
Bheem-EU brake control/engine/electrical
monitoring system INDIAN
Sigma-95N ring laser gyro-based inertial
navigation system coupled to a GPS receiver -
SAGEM
RWR - Indian Tarang MK 2/3 DARE
Glass Cockpit - Indian
Training Software - Indian
On board oxygen generator - Indian (L&T)
Pilot G-Suit - Indian
FBW - Indian
Landing Gear - Indian
Tyre - Indian

Now, tell me what you guys contributed in JFT.

MMR Is indian with israeli part as per CAG report.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

poor range? it will detect your MKI at around 140kms mate, and then it will turn it into fried chicken. your MKI will not see it before 120km due to its smaller RCS. MKI has the RCS of a mammoth you know and it blinks bright and shiny on RWR and radar.

wrong, many parts are pakistani, including front fuselage, rudder, canopy, VHF/ UHF comm, data link, weapons and mission management computer, light management system, global altitude and heading reference system, back up mission computer among others.

absolutely wrong, go and do some search on radar ranges of different fighters and come back to eat your words.

Tell this to your Pakistanis. They will trust. You guys pissed in pant when you heard that Tejas is going to participate. Forget about loosing you could not face off. You have a habit of lying. Your plane is cmparable to Sitara only and inferior in many aspect. 8.5 g limit etc are only paper figures. Your blunder can not pull more than 17* AOA. It is a joke on fighter plane. Still you guys keepranting that it is a 4th generation plane.

 

[Dazzler]

Substantiate your point please.

INS is made in India,but with an imported Sagem Sigma-95N RLG .Anyway,the RLG is another item slated for replacement by an indigenous one.

as i said, half knowledge is more dangerous than being illeterate..now READ this

www.sagem.com/file/download/d1439e_sigma_95n.pdf

 

[Neelkanth]

poor range? it will detect your MKI at around 140kms mate, and then it will turn it into fried chicken. your MKI will not see it before 120km due to its smaller RCS. MKI has the RCS of a mammoth you know and it blinks bright and shiny on RWR and radar.

For Bars PESA RADAR, that is mounted on Sukhoi 30 MKI, the maximum air-to-air detection range is over 400 km when used as an airborne early warning role, and when used for intercepting role, the range against a typical fighter sized target is 140 km against a head-on, and 65 km tail-on. Add networked warfare capabilities with full situation awareness, thanks to AFNet, with this; which has been war gamed and put into operation.

 

[Dazzler]

Tell this to your Pakistanis. They will trust. You guys pissed in pant when you heard that Tejas is going to participate. Forget about loosing you could not face off. You have a habit of lying. Your plane is cmparable to Sitara only and inferior in many aspect. 8.5 g limit etc are only paper figures. Your blunder can not pull more than 17* AOA. It is a joke on fighter plane. Still you guys keepranting that it is a 4th generation plane.

We "Guys" have participated in many international shows and impressed the world, this is your first and you are jumping like you conquered a the universe. That is sheer stupidity.

Funnily, so far, no reputable international media has given coverage to your might little plane.

 

[Dazzler]

For Bars PESA RADAR, that is mounted on Sukhoi 30 MKI, the maximum air-to-air detection range is over 400 km when used as an airborne early warning role, and when used for intercepting role, the range against a typical fighter sized target is 140 km against a head-on, and 65 km tail-on. Add networked warfare capabilities with full situation awareness, thanks to AFNet, with this; which has been war gamed and put into operation.

nobody gives two hoot to maximum range. the real deal is the tracking range where the aircraft actually starts tracking a target. the N011M bars can track a mig-29 sized target (4.5-5.0 RCS) at around 140 km. You do the math.

 

[Neelkanth]

many of your listed items are not indian. Sagem and Thales are french right? So is Sigma.

He has listed those are made in India, in licensed production.

 

[Dazzler]

Damn, pakis are nowhere.

its time to eat your words, see the list..


www.qmsiso.com/UserFiles/File/Client%20List.pdf

www.pac.org.pk/mrf

 

[Dazzler]

He has listed those are made in India, in licensed production.

not made, but assembled under Sagem's supervision. the original technology belongs to them.

 

[gslv markIII]

as i said, half knowledge is more dangerous than being illeterate..now READ this

www.sagem.com/file/download/d1439e_sigma_95n.pdf

My bad,DRDO's version is a work in progress.This one will use an Indian (RCI) designed RLG.

 

[gslv markIII]

not made, but assembled u

proof please ?

its time to eat your words, see the list..


www.qmsiso.com/UserFiles/File/Client%20List.pdf

www.pac.org.pk/mrf

Hello....aerospace vendors only.You had only only 5 certified suppliers

 

[Dazzler]

proof please ?



Hello....aerospace vendors only.You had only only 5 certified suppliers

you said we had none right? how about taking your words back for a change? Boeing parts also made


http://www.pac.org.pk/non-destructive

 

[gslv markIII]

you said we had none right? how about taking your words back for a change? Boeing parts also made

No one said that.

I said Google 'List of ISO 9001:2008 Certified Aerospace Suppliers by nation'.Check the results please

Boeing parts also made

Google Tata Advanced Systems Limited.

 

[Neelkanth]

nobody gives two hoot to maximum range. the real deal is the tracking range where the aircraft actually starts tracking a target. the N011M bars can track a mig-29 sized target (4.5-5.0 RCS) at around 140 km. You do the math.

Bars N011M has a search range of 400 km and a tracking range of 200 km, with 60 km in the rear in the air-to-air mode. Detection range fighter type MIG-29 in area of review of over 300 sq. deg: - on towards course - up to 140 km; - in pursuit of - up to 60 km. This is when, Peak Power Out Put is 4-5kW, with Average of about 1.2 kW, a diameter of 960 mm.

On JF 17 the radar is KLJ-7, also referred to as the Type 1478, with an avg power of 550-600 watts, where as Antennae Diameter is around 680 mm. and it is claimed : Range is : >75 km (for RCS of 3 m2) (V1) or 130 km for RCS of 5 m2 (V1), or 110 km (for RCS of 3 m2) (V2), or 140-150 km for RCS of 5 m2 (V2).

Pray, You Do the Math in the Power density of the Radar Emission, and If you are claiming that with such specs it can detect an AC at 140 Kilometers, you need to Just to plot an extrapolation graph for Bars N011M. Try going to a college where they teach electronics and Communication Engineering, Might help, and do Make sure there aren't any Talibs around. .