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I think you are aware that peoples from other states cant buy the properties in the J&K
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not sure if this would be a reliable source, but:
Indian Army Flee's After Attempt to Slaughter Sikhs in Kashmir
Sikhs raising slogans of Azaadi and against Indian army, hundreds of Sikhs blocked Khanabal-Pahalgham road at Hutmurah. While protesting, they expressed their full support to Geelani.
In breaking news from Kashmir, the Sikh and Muslim communities have botched what appears to be the second attempt by the Indian Army to massacre Sikhs in hopes of leveling blame on Kashmiri Militants.
Some time yesterday, in the Islamabad district of Indian occupied Kashmir, panic struck the Hutmaraha village when gunmen targeted Sikh homes, knocking on their doors and demanding that they come out. But, instead the gunmen faced a surprise reaction. When word spread quickly, Sikh and Muslim neighbours created an uproar chasing the gunmen out of the village.
According to a report on Greater Kashmir Daily News,
"panic gripped Hutmurah village of Mattan last night when about a dozen troopers belonging to Army's 3 Rashtriya Rifles (RR) appeared in the village in a Tata Sumo. The Army men, eyewitnesses said, knocked at the doors of the Sikh community members and asked them to come out of their houses. However, the community members refused to obey them and instead raised an alarm.
Within minutes, eyewitnesses said, hundreds of men, women and children of the community carrying swords and Kirpans came out on the Khanabal-Pahalgam road and chased away the Army men. They informed the Mattan police and the civil administration. "
It is being reported that the quick arrival of the Police on the scene led to the arrest of one man and capture of the Tata Sumo vehicle. An FIR (First Incident Report) has since been filed for investigation into the involvement of the Indian Army.
A local by the name of Satpal Singh has reported that,
"Late in the evening unidentified gun stormed our village and started knocking the doors of Sikh families. All locals in the area started an uproar which disturbed the plans of gunmen who later flew from the spot leaving their vehicle on the spot."
Security in the state had been stepped up since the arrival of President Obama. Kashmiri Sikhs and Muslims alike were on edge after a similar attack targeted Sikhs in 2000, during Bill Clinton's visit to India.
In what has become widely known as the Chattisinghpora Massacre in 2000, Bill Clinton in the first edition of his autobiography leveled blame on Indian operatives for the execution style killing of 35 Sikhs.
It is a commonly held belief amongst many Sikhs and Kashmiris internationally, Indian operatives orchestrated the murder of Sikhs in 2000, in attempt to blame Kashmiri Militants and draw a wedge between Muslims and Sikhs in the region. The attempt has since proven to have backfired on the Indian operatives, as their diabolical scheme was exposed by the two communities that have fostered a close and sympathetic relationship towards one another, under the oppressive Indian system.
Written with files from: RisingKashmir.com and GreaterKashmir.com
Indian Army Flee's After Attempt to Slaughter Sikhs in Kashmir
Sikhs raising slogans of Azaadi and against Indian army, hundreds of Sikhs blocked Khanabal-Pahalgham road at Hutmurah. While protesting, they expressed their full support to Geelani.
In breaking news from Kashmir, the Sikh and Muslim communities have botched what appears to be the second attempt by the Indian Army to massacre Sikhs in hopes of leveling blame on Kashmiri Militants.
Some time yesterday, in the Islamabad district of Indian occupied Kashmir, panic struck the Hutmaraha village when gunmen targeted Sikh homes, knocking on their doors and demanding that they come out. But, instead the gunmen faced a surprise reaction. When word spread quickly, Sikh and Muslim neighbours created an uproar chasing the gunmen out of the village.
According to a report on Greater Kashmir Daily News,
"panic gripped Hutmurah village of Mattan last night when about a dozen troopers belonging to Army's 3 Rashtriya Rifles (RR) appeared in the village in a Tata Sumo. The Army men, eyewitnesses said, knocked at the doors of the Sikh community members and asked them to come out of their houses. However, the community members refused to obey them and instead raised an alarm.
Within minutes, eyewitnesses said, hundreds of men, women and children of the community carrying swords and Kirpans came out on the Khanabal-Pahalgam road and chased away the Army men. They informed the Mattan police and the civil administration. "
It is being reported that the quick arrival of the Police on the scene led to the arrest of one man and capture of the Tata Sumo vehicle. An FIR (First Incident Report) has since been filed for investigation into the involvement of the Indian Army.
A local by the name of Satpal Singh has reported that,
"Late in the evening unidentified gun stormed our village and started knocking the doors of Sikh families. All locals in the area started an uproar which disturbed the plans of gunmen who later flew from the spot leaving their vehicle on the spot."
Security in the state had been stepped up since the arrival of President Obama. Kashmiri Sikhs and Muslims alike were on edge after a similar attack targeted Sikhs in 2000, during Bill Clinton's visit to India.
In what has become widely known as the Chattisinghpora Massacre in 2000, Bill Clinton in the first edition of his autobiography leveled blame on Indian operatives for the execution style killing of 35 Sikhs.
It is a commonly held belief amongst many Sikhs and Kashmiris internationally, Indian operatives orchestrated the murder of Sikhs in 2000, in attempt to blame Kashmiri Militants and draw a wedge between Muslims and Sikhs in the region. The attempt has since proven to have backfired on the Indian operatives, as their diabolical scheme was exposed by the two communities that have fostered a close and sympathetic relationship towards one another, under the oppressive Indian system.
Written with files from: RisingKashmir.com and GreaterKashmir.com
Sikhs & Muslims Protest & Launch Citizen Patrol Units in Kashmir
In the second day of protests, thousands from the Muslim and Sikh communities have participated in demonstrations against the Indian Army. Further, separatist leader Geelani, has instructed the Muslim community in Sikh regions to help patrol neighbourhoods and protect the Kashmiri minority from the diabolical plans of New Delhi by stating,
"I appeal the Kashmiri Muslims to undertake patrolling of the Sikh dominated areas along with the members of the minority community till US president Obama stays in India to thwart conspiracy against them,"
It is also being reported that Sikh protesters have begun chants including "We want freedom," "Go India Go Back," and "Kaun karega tarjumani, Syed Ali Shah Geelani" endorsing the Free Kashmir movement and its Separatist Leader.
With a renewed sense of community, Muslim and Sikh protesters have also demanded that the identity of the Army men involved be revealed and punishment be handed out.
In response, sources are now reporting that an FIR (First Incident Report) No 400/2010 under section 427,407, 507 under RPC has been filed against the Army in the Mattan police station.
Written with files and sources from: KashmirDispatch.com and GreaterKashmir.com
In the second day of protests, thousands from the Muslim and Sikh communities have participated in demonstrations against the Indian Army. Further, separatist leader Geelani, has instructed the Muslim community in Sikh regions to help patrol neighbourhoods and protect the Kashmiri minority from the diabolical plans of New Delhi by stating,
"I appeal the Kashmiri Muslims to undertake patrolling of the Sikh dominated areas along with the members of the minority community till US president Obama stays in India to thwart conspiracy against them,"
It is also being reported that Sikh protesters have begun chants including "We want freedom," "Go India Go Back," and "Kaun karega tarjumani, Syed Ali Shah Geelani" endorsing the Free Kashmir movement and its Separatist Leader.
With a renewed sense of community, Muslim and Sikh protesters have also demanded that the identity of the Army men involved be revealed and punishment be handed out.
In response, sources are now reporting that an FIR (First Incident Report) No 400/2010 under section 427,407, 507 under RPC has been filed against the Army in the Mattan police station.
Written with files and sources from: KashmirDispatch.com and GreaterKashmir.com
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mehwish, think straight.mehwish92 said:
The article says the Sikhs came out to see 'gunmen' knocking on their doors. It then proceeds to quote an article from Kashmir Dispatch, saying that "a dozen troopers belonging to the Indian Army's 3 Rashtriya Rifles (RR) appeared in the village in a Tata Sumo" and make the correlation that the gunmen were the Army troopers? What sort a bullshit is that?
And then, the "quick arrival of the Police on the scene led to the capture of one man"? You'd think that if the Army wanted to massacre Sikhs, they wouldn't have the police in cahoots with them?
Furthermore, it quotes as its sole witness one Satpal Singh who said, 'Late in the evening unidentified gun stormed our village and started knocking the doors of Sikhs' , presuming from its correlation that those gunmen were Indian army personnel? What logic does that prove?
You'd think the Indian Army, if they wanted to massacre Sikhs, would come in their uniforms, knock on peoples' doors, wait for the police to arrive <whom they uninformed> and then flee leaving their vehicles behind? What sorta nonsense is that? And how do you buy in to it?
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what do u expect form KashmirDispatch.com and GreaterKashmir.com can u really believe in this sources
Srinagar vendors defy Geelani's 'civil curfew'
SRINAGAR: Hundreds of roadside vendors today defied hardline Hurriyat Conference leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani's announcement to observe 'civil curfew' as they displayed their merchandise in the popular flea market in the city.
Geelani had announced a three-day 'civil curfew' to be observed, beginning with arrival of US President Barack Obama to India yesterday, but the roadside vendors decided to defy the diktat.
"We have seen enough of strikes and curfews for the past four months and now we want to feed our families. We cannot go on forever like this," a vendor, who identified himself only as Khalid, said.
Khalid said he also wanted resolution of Kashmir issue but not by forcing his family to starvation. "There has to be a strategy... any movement that forces the poor into further poverty cannot sustain for too long," the graduate from S P College said.
The sentiments were echoed by many of Khalid's fellow traders at the Sunday market, but would not speak on record for the fear of reprisal from separatist elements.
"We do not want to indulge into politics. We are trying to fulfill our basic needs... the separatist have not cared and the Government at best has been absent," Nazir Ahmad (name changed) said.
Asked about the impact of breaking the strike when Obama is in India, both Khalid and Nazir were of the opinion that the "Kashmiri nation" should stop looking at foreign powers for resolution of the issue.
"The US, China, UK and UN have been there for so many decades but what have they done so far?" they asked.
The defiance by vendors comes a week after an unknown group, Jammu and Kashmir Ittehadi Islami, circulated posters in the city asking the Hurriyat Conference to review its strike calendar as it was only harming economy of the valley.
Although an estimated 5000 roadside vendors set up their shop from TRC Crossing to Batamaloo every Sunday to earn a livelihood, only 20 per cent of them have decided to defy the separatist diktat.
Meanwhile, normal life remained disrupted in the Valley as most of the shops, private offices and commercial establishments remained closed on account of strike.
A police spokesman said the situation across the Valley so far was peaceful. "There is no curfew or restrictions in place anywhere in the Kashmir Valley," he said.
Kashmir Valley has been in the grip of protests, strikes and curfew since June when a 17-year-old boy was killed by a tear smoke shell allegedly fired by police at Rajouri Kadal area of the city.
SRINAGAR: Hundreds of roadside vendors today defied hardline Hurriyat Conference leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani's announcement to observe 'civil curfew' as they displayed their merchandise in the popular flea market in the city.
Geelani had announced a three-day 'civil curfew' to be observed, beginning with arrival of US President Barack Obama to India yesterday, but the roadside vendors decided to defy the diktat.
"We have seen enough of strikes and curfews for the past four months and now we want to feed our families. We cannot go on forever like this," a vendor, who identified himself only as Khalid, said.
Khalid said he also wanted resolution of Kashmir issue but not by forcing his family to starvation. "There has to be a strategy... any movement that forces the poor into further poverty cannot sustain for too long," the graduate from S P College said.
The sentiments were echoed by many of Khalid's fellow traders at the Sunday market, but would not speak on record for the fear of reprisal from separatist elements.
"We do not want to indulge into politics. We are trying to fulfill our basic needs... the separatist have not cared and the Government at best has been absent," Nazir Ahmad (name changed) said.
Asked about the impact of breaking the strike when Obama is in India, both Khalid and Nazir were of the opinion that the "Kashmiri nation" should stop looking at foreign powers for resolution of the issue.
"The US, China, UK and UN have been there for so many decades but what have they done so far?" they asked.
The defiance by vendors comes a week after an unknown group, Jammu and Kashmir Ittehadi Islami, circulated posters in the city asking the Hurriyat Conference to review its strike calendar as it was only harming economy of the valley.
Although an estimated 5000 roadside vendors set up their shop from TRC Crossing to Batamaloo every Sunday to earn a livelihood, only 20 per cent of them have decided to defy the separatist diktat.
Meanwhile, normal life remained disrupted in the Valley as most of the shops, private offices and commercial establishments remained closed on account of strike.
A police spokesman said the situation across the Valley so far was peaceful. "There is no curfew or restrictions in place anywhere in the Kashmir Valley," he said.
Kashmir Valley has been in the grip of protests, strikes and curfew since June when a 17-year-old boy was killed by a tear smoke shell allegedly fired by police at Rajouri Kadal area of the city.
Stone pelting is NOT peaceful protests!
Stone-pelting claims two lives dailykashmirimages.com
Srinagar, Nov 06: At least two persons died and three others were injured at Nagbal-Zainapora in district Shopian Saturday afternoon when some stone-pelters in a bid to enforce strike pelted stones on civil vehicles in the area.
According to sources, a group of people traveling in a load-carrier bearing chassis number-065773, were on way to Shopian when the vehicle was heavily pelted upon by some youth at Nagbal. In the mille the driver lost control over the steering and the vehicle turned turtle, which resulted in on-spot death of Mohammad Ramzan Malik, son of Ghulam Ahmad, and Javaid Ahmad Bhat, son of Mohammad Ismail, residents of Chitragam-Kalan, Zainapora.
Three others injured in the incident were identified as Ismail, son of Ali Mohammad, Abdul Rashid Naikoo, son of Ismail, residents of D K Pora Zainapora and Khalid Amin Bhat, son of Mohammad Amin, resident of Babapora Zainapora Shopian.
Injured persons have been hospitalized while police has registered a case in this regard.
In a similar incident, a 12-year-old boy received severe head injury when the car he was travelling in with his father, mother and grand-father came under attack from stone-pelters at Kralpora market on Srinagar-Charar-e-Sharief Road Saturday evening.
Eyewitnesses said that a Maruti car was pelted with stones by a group of stone-pelters near the Doodh Ganga Water Treatment Plant crossing at Kralpora at around 6 pm.
One of the stones hit a window of the car and thence in the head of the boy, identified as Atif Maqbool (12), resulting in profuse bleeding and abrupt unconsciousness.
People traveling in some other vehicles at the time helped the highly nervous and worried parents of the boy to take him to hospital, police said.
Obviously those witnesses to the incident expressed deep shock and resentment about the act. There was no latest word about the condition of the boy.
Stone-pelting claims two lives dailykashmirimages.com
Srinagar, Nov 06: At least two persons died and three others were injured at Nagbal-Zainapora in district Shopian Saturday afternoon when some stone-pelters in a bid to enforce strike pelted stones on civil vehicles in the area.
According to sources, a group of people traveling in a load-carrier bearing chassis number-065773, were on way to Shopian when the vehicle was heavily pelted upon by some youth at Nagbal. In the mille the driver lost control over the steering and the vehicle turned turtle, which resulted in on-spot death of Mohammad Ramzan Malik, son of Ghulam Ahmad, and Javaid Ahmad Bhat, son of Mohammad Ismail, residents of Chitragam-Kalan, Zainapora.
Three others injured in the incident were identified as Ismail, son of Ali Mohammad, Abdul Rashid Naikoo, son of Ismail, residents of D K Pora Zainapora and Khalid Amin Bhat, son of Mohammad Amin, resident of Babapora Zainapora Shopian.
Injured persons have been hospitalized while police has registered a case in this regard.
In a similar incident, a 12-year-old boy received severe head injury when the car he was travelling in with his father, mother and grand-father came under attack from stone-pelters at Kralpora market on Srinagar-Charar-e-Sharief Road Saturday evening.
Eyewitnesses said that a Maruti car was pelted with stones by a group of stone-pelters near the Doodh Ganga Water Treatment Plant crossing at Kralpora at around 6 pm.
One of the stones hit a window of the car and thence in the head of the boy, identified as Atif Maqbool (12), resulting in profuse bleeding and abrupt unconsciousness.
People traveling in some other vehicles at the time helped the highly nervous and worried parents of the boy to take him to hospital, police said.
Obviously those witnesses to the incident expressed deep shock and resentment about the act. There was no latest word about the condition of the boy.
Education falls victim to Kashmir violence GulfTimes - Qatar's top-selling daily
Thousands of teenagers in Jammu and Kashmir have been involved in violent, often deadly, pro-independence protests for months - and Ali Raza's friends expected him to be in the middle of the mob.
But instead of throwing stones at security forces, Raza, 17, and his three cousins slipped away in September at the height of the unrest that engulfed Kashmir for much of the summer.
"My parents booked our air tickets to New Delhi, arranged for our stay and instructed us to apply to a college for the next academic year," said Raza, who is now in the Indian capital studying for the college's entrance exam.
Raza says he topped his class in Srinagar, the summer capital of Jammu and Kashmir, and he is keen to pursue a career in banking.
"The recent violence made it clear that if I want to do something meaningful with my life then I needed to get out of Kashmir and maybe never return," he said.
"My old school friends back there now call me 'an infidel living in the enemy state of India'."
Young men wearing masks and chanting slogans against India have been at the forefront of furious separatist rallies in Kashmir, pelting police and paramilitary troops with stones and rocks.
The security forces often opened fire in return, and 111 civilians were shot dead between June and October, most of them teenage students.
The rallies have declined in recent weeks after New Delhi released 50 jailed protesters, removed some security bunkers in Srinagar, and pledged to seek justice for families of victims.
Reflecting the climate of fear in the state, Raza and his cousins declined to be photographed in case their families still living in Kashmir were targeted by hardline separatists who disapprove of people leaving.
Life has often been at a standstill in Kashmir as groups campaigning for independence from India called repeated strikes and as the state government imposed curfews that trapped people indoors for days or even weeks at a time.
As a part of their ongoing "Quit Kashmir Campaign," separatist leaders have issued calendars every ten days declaring when strikes would be held.
"Nobody looks at the regular calendar, we check the strike calendar to see whether it is another day in the house," Muslim Jan, a lecturer in mass communication at the state-owned Kashmir University, said by telephone.
"The violence has meant that the few students who can afford to, leave. Education is a major casualty of the violence."
All schools and colleges, government offices, banks, businesses and shops have remained closed for much of the last four months due to strikes and curfews.
Residents confined inside their homes become increasingly angry and frustrated.
"There is a huge sense of disillusionment. During my lectures, students shout and urge me to stop promoting peace or equality," said Mirza Rangrej, a teacher of sociology.
"My school was open just ten days out of 90 this summer. Some schools e-mail their pupils but there are many students who do not have computers at home.
"They just sit idle, watch television all day and listen about the violence and bloodshed from their parents."
Exam timetables have also been wrecked, with no testing to decide who has graduated.
Syed Ali Geelani, a hardline separatist politician who has been organising the strikes and protests, justifies the disruption "as a petty sacrifice in the war of freedom waged against India."
"We want freedom and in this battle people of Kashmir will have to sacrifice education, property and even life," he said.
Kashmir was the first Indian state to declare free and compulsory education in 1951 but the damage to education today threatens further problems for the state in the future.
"The government thinks unemployment is the biggest problem but they cannot tell us how youths will get jobs if they do not study and get qualifications," said a senior staff member at the Jammu and Kashmir state-run bank in Srinagar.
"My two teenage boys are not being allowed to study today, no one will give them a job tomorrow."
Thousands of teenagers in Jammu and Kashmir have been involved in violent, often deadly, pro-independence protests for months - and Ali Raza's friends expected him to be in the middle of the mob.
But instead of throwing stones at security forces, Raza, 17, and his three cousins slipped away in September at the height of the unrest that engulfed Kashmir for much of the summer.
"My parents booked our air tickets to New Delhi, arranged for our stay and instructed us to apply to a college for the next academic year," said Raza, who is now in the Indian capital studying for the college's entrance exam.
Raza says he topped his class in Srinagar, the summer capital of Jammu and Kashmir, and he is keen to pursue a career in banking.
"The recent violence made it clear that if I want to do something meaningful with my life then I needed to get out of Kashmir and maybe never return," he said.
"My old school friends back there now call me 'an infidel living in the enemy state of India'."
Young men wearing masks and chanting slogans against India have been at the forefront of furious separatist rallies in Kashmir, pelting police and paramilitary troops with stones and rocks.
The security forces often opened fire in return, and 111 civilians were shot dead between June and October, most of them teenage students.
The rallies have declined in recent weeks after New Delhi released 50 jailed protesters, removed some security bunkers in Srinagar, and pledged to seek justice for families of victims.
Reflecting the climate of fear in the state, Raza and his cousins declined to be photographed in case their families still living in Kashmir were targeted by hardline separatists who disapprove of people leaving.
Life has often been at a standstill in Kashmir as groups campaigning for independence from India called repeated strikes and as the state government imposed curfews that trapped people indoors for days or even weeks at a time.
As a part of their ongoing "Quit Kashmir Campaign," separatist leaders have issued calendars every ten days declaring when strikes would be held.
"Nobody looks at the regular calendar, we check the strike calendar to see whether it is another day in the house," Muslim Jan, a lecturer in mass communication at the state-owned Kashmir University, said by telephone.
"The violence has meant that the few students who can afford to, leave. Education is a major casualty of the violence."
All schools and colleges, government offices, banks, businesses and shops have remained closed for much of the last four months due to strikes and curfews.
Residents confined inside their homes become increasingly angry and frustrated.
"There is a huge sense of disillusionment. During my lectures, students shout and urge me to stop promoting peace or equality," said Mirza Rangrej, a teacher of sociology.
"My school was open just ten days out of 90 this summer. Some schools e-mail their pupils but there are many students who do not have computers at home.
"They just sit idle, watch television all day and listen about the violence and bloodshed from their parents."
Exam timetables have also been wrecked, with no testing to decide who has graduated.
Syed Ali Geelani, a hardline separatist politician who has been organising the strikes and protests, justifies the disruption "as a petty sacrifice in the war of freedom waged against India."
"We want freedom and in this battle people of Kashmir will have to sacrifice education, property and even life," he said.
Kashmir was the first Indian state to declare free and compulsory education in 1951 but the damage to education today threatens further problems for the state in the future.
"The government thinks unemployment is the biggest problem but they cannot tell us how youths will get jobs if they do not study and get qualifications," said a senior staff member at the Jammu and Kashmir state-run bank in Srinagar.
"My two teenage boys are not being allowed to study today, no one will give them a job tomorrow."
Do you entertain the possibility that it could possibly be true?
I think it is propganda in the absence of credible media reporting it.
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What rubbish propaganda and desperate misuse of photography!!? LOL! Sikhs alongside Pandits and Buddhists have been the worst sufferers of massacres perpetrated by Kashmiri Muslim fundamentalists. Then how are they supporting "Azadi"? :emot15:Sikhs & Muslims Protest & Launch Citizen Patrol Units in Kashmir
In the second day of protests, thousands from the Muslim and Sikh communities have participated in demonstrations against the Indian Army. Further, separatist leader Geelani, has instructed the Muslim community in Sikh regions to help patrol neighbourhoods and protect the Kashmiri minority from the diabolical plans of New Delhi by stating,
"I appeal the Kashmiri Muslims to undertake patrolling of the Sikh dominated areas along with the members of the minority community till US president Obama stays in India to thwart conspiracy against them,"
It is also being reported that Sikh protesters have begun chants including "We want freedom," "Go India Go Back," and "Kaun karega tarjumani, Syed Ali Shah Geelani" endorsing the Free Kashmir movement and its Separatist Leader.
With a renewed sense of community, Muslim and Sikh protesters have also demanded that the identity of the Army men involved be revealed and punishment be handed out.
In response, sources are now reporting that an FIR (First Incident Report) No 400/2010 under section 427,407, 507 under RPC has been filed against the Army in the Mattan police station.
Written with files and sources from: KashmirDispatch.com and GreaterKashmir.com
Shireen doesn't seemingly realize the difference between IA patrol and "gunmen" knocking at the doors of Sikhs.
pic is from pro khalistani site in canada.not sure if this would be a reliable source, but:
Indian Army Flee's After Attempt to Slaughter Sikhs in Kashmir
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Here's another piece from this cock-a-block newspaper Rising Kashmir:
Unknown persons knock at doctor's house; panic in Rajpora
Knocks still haunting Sikhs
Ishfaq Ahmad Shah
Srinagar, Nov 07: Fear gripped another Sikh neighborhood in Tral area of South Kashmir's Pulwama district Saturday night after unidentified men in uniform appeared in the area and banged at the door of one of the residents repeatedly
The incident follows similar "acts of intimidation" in Sikh dominated localities of Upalna in Baramulla and Hutmura in Islamabad district in the past few days.
At around 8:15 Saturday evening, a group of men in uniform knocked at the back gate of local resident Dr Vikramjeet Singh's house.
"We initially thought there may be a patient at the gate, but then they started banging it which made us skeptical," said Vikramjeet's father, Khaen Singh. He said the knocking continued for at least 15 minutes.
"We switched off all the lights and assembled in one room in the first floor of the house. We also raised alarm before a police party led by local SHO reached our house," Khaen said.
He added that at the time of the incident elderly, children and women of the family were in the house while his son was in Jammu.
"We were fear stricken as we were reminded of incidents like Chattisinghpora. We thought that they failed in Upalna and Hutmura few days back and now they will make up for it here in Rajpora," Khaen said.
He said that the unidentified men came in a Maruti 800 car and a Tata Sumo. "As police and our neighbors came out of their houses the men fled the spot in the vehicles. Later, they decamped with a coffer of the nearby Gurudwara. The coffer was found empty in a nearby Nallah today," Khaen added.
When contacted, Superintendent of Police Awantipora, S A Panu contested the claims saying some patients had visited the house of Dr Vikramjeet.
"The patients had knocked at the door of the doctor who was not home. When we reached the place, everything was safe," he said.
Asked about alleged theft of Gurudwara coffer, the police officer said, "The matter is under investigation."
Refuting the claims of police, Dr Paramjeet Singh, member JK Gurudwara Board and cousin of Dr Vikramjeet said, "Patients knock the door humbly. They don't kick and bang the gate. If it was a patient then why they fled from the spot after police reached here."
"We, the Sikhs of the valley, are having sleepless nights these days. We hope that Obama visit ends soon and we get relief from this fear psychosis," he added.
http://www.risingkashmir.com/news/unknown-persons-knock-at-doctor’s-house-panic-in-rajpora-3316.aspx
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Now, you tell me, the Army, i.e. the Rashtriya Rifles, comes in uniform, knocks on the doors of Sikh houses in Hutmurah village of Mattan aggressively, then waits for the police to arrive, flee and leave incriminating evidence in the form of a Tata Sumo vehicle, which is civilian, behind. Why would the Army come in full uniform, brandishing their lapels and use a civilian Tata Sumo vehicle? Why would they wait for the police to arrive, which doesn't respond 'immediately' anywhere in Kashmir? Why would they flee on foot? having come in a vehicle, So that they could be hunted down by the cops in theirs?
Then, having discovered the negative flurry of propaganda these have unleashed, the 'Army' comes a second day, and proceeds to knock on the doors of Sikhs again? What sorta crap is that? The Rashtriya Rifles live in a base camp, of which the closest to Anantnag district is the one at Beeru, 40 kms. from Srinagar. Every serviceperson that enter or leaves the base, is noted. You think, if the acts of yesterday caused such strife, the officers would have let their soldiers out again? The same soldiers, and what then? Rinse, dry and repeat?
Now, if you were to investigate this closely, you'd see there's a pattern to the incidents. A 'civilian' Tata Sumo is not hard to come by, and the correlation between the alleged 'gunmen' that knocked on the door and uniform bearing Rashtriya Rifles seems to be spurious. If there is an attempt to knock and aggravate people, it is by elements who want to turn one community against another. And specifically, one community to the sectarian side. Sikhs, who have suffered extremely heavily at the hands of militants, against the Hindus of Anantnag district, with whom they have had panegyrizing relations for centuries, and against the Indian Army, of which they have been traditional patrons for years.
If what ajtr says is true, that Shireen Mazari is the source of this story; then the answer is not far. Shireen Mazari is a crook, one that has written scandalous articles before, based on nothing but a whim and a fancy. Here are some of her more controversial 'exploits':
Unknown persons knock at doctor's house; panic in Rajpora
Knocks still haunting Sikhs
Ishfaq Ahmad Shah
Srinagar, Nov 07: Fear gripped another Sikh neighborhood in Tral area of South Kashmir's Pulwama district Saturday night after unidentified men in uniform appeared in the area and banged at the door of one of the residents repeatedly
The incident follows similar "acts of intimidation" in Sikh dominated localities of Upalna in Baramulla and Hutmura in Islamabad district in the past few days.
At around 8:15 Saturday evening, a group of men in uniform knocked at the back gate of local resident Dr Vikramjeet Singh's house.
"We initially thought there may be a patient at the gate, but then they started banging it which made us skeptical," said Vikramjeet's father, Khaen Singh. He said the knocking continued for at least 15 minutes.
"We switched off all the lights and assembled in one room in the first floor of the house. We also raised alarm before a police party led by local SHO reached our house," Khaen said.
He added that at the time of the incident elderly, children and women of the family were in the house while his son was in Jammu.
"We were fear stricken as we were reminded of incidents like Chattisinghpora. We thought that they failed in Upalna and Hutmura few days back and now they will make up for it here in Rajpora," Khaen said.
He said that the unidentified men came in a Maruti 800 car and a Tata Sumo. "As police and our neighbors came out of their houses the men fled the spot in the vehicles. Later, they decamped with a coffer of the nearby Gurudwara. The coffer was found empty in a nearby Nallah today," Khaen added.
When contacted, Superintendent of Police Awantipora, S A Panu contested the claims saying some patients had visited the house of Dr Vikramjeet.
"The patients had knocked at the door of the doctor who was not home. When we reached the place, everything was safe," he said.
Asked about alleged theft of Gurudwara coffer, the police officer said, "The matter is under investigation."
Refuting the claims of police, Dr Paramjeet Singh, member JK Gurudwara Board and cousin of Dr Vikramjeet said, "Patients knock the door humbly. They don't kick and bang the gate. If it was a patient then why they fled from the spot after police reached here."
"We, the Sikhs of the valley, are having sleepless nights these days. We hope that Obama visit ends soon and we get relief from this fear psychosis," he added.
http://www.risingkashmir.com/news/unknown-persons-knock-at-doctor’s-house-panic-in-rajpora-3316.aspx
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Now, you tell me, the Army, i.e. the Rashtriya Rifles, comes in uniform, knocks on the doors of Sikh houses in Hutmurah village of Mattan aggressively, then waits for the police to arrive, flee and leave incriminating evidence in the form of a Tata Sumo vehicle, which is civilian, behind. Why would the Army come in full uniform, brandishing their lapels and use a civilian Tata Sumo vehicle? Why would they wait for the police to arrive, which doesn't respond 'immediately' anywhere in Kashmir? Why would they flee on foot? having come in a vehicle, So that they could be hunted down by the cops in theirs?
Then, having discovered the negative flurry of propaganda these have unleashed, the 'Army' comes a second day, and proceeds to knock on the doors of Sikhs again? What sorta crap is that? The Rashtriya Rifles live in a base camp, of which the closest to Anantnag district is the one at Beeru, 40 kms. from Srinagar. Every serviceperson that enter or leaves the base, is noted. You think, if the acts of yesterday caused such strife, the officers would have let their soldiers out again? The same soldiers, and what then? Rinse, dry and repeat?
Now, if you were to investigate this closely, you'd see there's a pattern to the incidents. A 'civilian' Tata Sumo is not hard to come by, and the correlation between the alleged 'gunmen' that knocked on the door and uniform bearing Rashtriya Rifles seems to be spurious. If there is an attempt to knock and aggravate people, it is by elements who want to turn one community against another. And specifically, one community to the sectarian side. Sikhs, who have suffered extremely heavily at the hands of militants, against the Hindus of Anantnag district, with whom they have had panegyrizing relations for centuries, and against the Indian Army, of which they have been traditional patrons for years.
If what ajtr says is true, that Shireen Mazari is the source of this story; then the answer is not far. Shireen Mazari is a crook, one that has written scandalous articles before, based on nothing but a whim and a fancy. Here are some of her more controversial 'exploits':
- The Nation published a front page article ("Journalists as spies in FATA?"[5]) on November 5, 2009, accusing the South Asian correspondent of "The Wall Street Journal", Matthew Rosenberg, of working for the CIA, Israeli intelligence, and the U.S. military contractor Blackwater.
- Wall Street Journal Managing Editor Robert Thomson wrote to Mazari soon after the Rosenberg article appeared. Wall Street Journal's Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and killed in 2002, was labelled a Jewish spy in a similar manner by some sections of the Pakistani media.
- Twenty-one international news editors from Islamabad's foreign correspondent community also signed a letter of protest, criticizing the unsubstantiated article for compromising Matt Rosenberg's security. In a television interviewregarding the incident, Shireen Mazari strongly defended her story.
- On November 20, 2009, "The Nation" published yet another front page story with a photograph of what it described as "Mysterious US nationals". "According to a source in another investigation agency, the foreigners seemingly belonged to the US spy agency CIA. It was evident from the fact that two police commandos were escorting them, the source added."
- However, it turned out that this "Mysterious US National" was in fact the award-winning Australian photojournalist Daniel Berehulak, who works for Getty Images. Hugh Pinney, Getty's senior director of photography, wrote to Shireen Mazari on November 21, 2009 about this fact.
- Both Rosenberg and Berahulak have left Pakistan.
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The only solution to Kashmir is to blackout media, ban press, ban the sold-out HRC sponsored by middle east and Pakistan.. and start massive combing operations. Without any official mentions, start killing these so-called Hurriyat leaders and their stooges. One by one start doing the same what PLA did with Uyighur terrorist leaders, what Russian SPETSNAZ did with Chechn terrorists. Both these countries have crushed jihad down to dust.
The problem is only because separatists have access to media. Killing it and going in gung ho mode is the only way out.
The problem is only because separatists have access to media. Killing it and going in gung ho mode is the only way out.
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The other solution to Kashmir problem is, let it be like this for another 4,5 years till people lose all hope in getting a new country etc. This will make them focus on more practical stuff.
another picture from www.greaterkashmir.com: picture of jammu sikhs protesting against harassments of sikhs in kashmir.
The fear-mongering among the sikh community is just an example of how rumours become larger than life in a conflict zone. The story has been inflated by sepratists elements and now the govt. instead of moving in quickly to counter the propaganda seems to be nowhere. What it seems like it was a routine patrol and some vested groups have blown the incident out of proportion.
It seems that there have been protests by sikh members though as reported by outlookindia and The Hindu to name a few.
Sikh villagers stage protest in Kashmir
Sikhs Block Jammu-Pathankot Highway During Protest
And now Geelani is using this to express his newfound "solidarity with sikhs"
Give justice to (1984) anti-Sikh riot victims: Geelani
It seems that there have been protests by sikh members though as reported by outlookindia and The Hindu to name a few.
Sikh villagers stage protest in Kashmir
Sikhs Block Jammu-Pathankot Highway During Protest
And now Geelani is using this to express his newfound "solidarity with sikhs"
Give justice to (1984) anti-Sikh riot victims: Geelani
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I want to quote something from this website called: Panthic.org, which seems to be a Sikh Nationalist website with Pakistanie sympathies <the use of the term 'occupied Kashmir'>
Take this, at your own discretion.
Take this, at your own discretion.
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