ISRO General News and Updates

[Indx TechStyle]

One is In Colour & other one is in Black & white .May i know why ?

It's the way of submission plus both are low resolution images, at least against what this satellite can do.​

 

[lcafanboy]

India can develop space station, says ISRO chief

ISRO Chairman AS Kiran Kumar in Indore. (TOI Photo)
HIGHLIGHTS

• ISRO chairman A S Kiran Kumar said the country has the capability to develop a space station
• His comment follows ISRO display of technological prowess last week by launching 104 satellites in one go
• A long-term thinking was needed for setting up a space station, he said, adding "the sooner the better."

INDORE: Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) chairman A S Kiran Kumar on Monday said the country has the capability to develop a space station, but it needed a long-term approach and an ambitious planning.

His comment follows ISRO display of technological prowess last week byIndia 'key player' in global space race, says foreign media after Isro's record 104 satellites launch



Many more satellites were needed to keep a tab on the land and weather conditions and to enhance the communication network, he said.

This would be possible with increase in the number of satellite launches, for which the country needed to enhance the basic infrastructure and reduce the cost of equipment, he added.

The number of companies manufacturing small satellites has gone up across the world, but these companies could not launch them, therefore this area had immense commercial potential and India could tap it by enhancing the launch facilities, the ISRO chief said.
http://m.timesofindia.com/home/scie...tion-says-isro-chief/articleshow/57258224.cms

 

[bose]

Commercially they don't need LEO market as they have enough cash for the big ones, but they might as well get into to it just to spoil our party. Thankfully ISRO is not a commercial organisation, i.e not entirely dependant on external revenues.

we will know if chinese are planning such a thing within a year or two.

anyways, our eyes should be on the moon mission planned for this december, the one that is sending the INDUS moon rover.

Indian space agency ISRO is more economical that Chinese space agency, they have achieved much with 1/4 the budget of the Chinese ~ 6 billion dollars.

Using ISRO launcher PSLV [ I read somewhere] is cheaper than the Chinese...moreover with the operationalizing of GSLV III [upto 4 Tonnes in Geo] will put lot of pressure on Chinese.

Very Important:

Most of the satellites are made by the European & American companies starting from Nano to bigger ones... there is a restriction imposed upon Chinese space agency on lunching these satellites... so Indian space agency ISRO will have clear advantage here... So I see ISRO will gain commercial satellite lunching market in future...

 

[Trinetra]

Indian space agency ISRO is more economical that Chinese space agency, they have achieved much with 1/4 the budget of the Chinese ~ 6 billion dollars.

Using ISRO launcher PSLV [ I read somewhere] is cheaper than the Chinese...moreover with the operationalizing of GSLV III [upto 4 Tonnes in Geo] will put lot of pressure on Chinese.

Very Important:

Most of the satellites are made by the European & American companies starting from Nano to bigger ones... there is a restriction imposed upon Chinese space agency on lunching these satellites... so Indian space agency ISRO will have clear advantage here... So I see ISRO will gain commercial satellite lunching market in future...

I think by 2020 GSLV 3 rocket will have its reliability.. and will come cheaper too compared other ferrying rocket.. so after 2021 there will tremendous pressure on Chinese.. not even Chinese, even french space agency and NASA will feel the pressure.. and that time the RLV will be fully developed and will give a tough competition to private space industry too..

 

[bose]

I think by 2020 GSLV 3 rocket will have its reliability.. and will come cheaper too compared other ferrying rocket.. so after 2021 there will tremendous pressure on Chinese.. not even Chinese, even french space agency and NASA will feel the pressure.. and that time the RLV will be fully developed and will give a tough competition to private space industry too..

ISRO will under cut all of them in most important aspect that is "price", they knows it very well.

ISRO needs to increase its lunching capability substantially and here it should work with the private companies... ISRO has planned for one lunch per month and that is a good beginning but ISRO need to scale up its lunching capacity substantially in next 2 /3 years...

ISRO can also gain by making satellites for other countries and lunching them... a very bright future ahead...

Govt must increase in fund allocated to ISRO substantially and ISRO is the very few that is performing very well..

 

[Indx TechStyle]

ISRO will under cut all of them in most important aspect that is "price", they knows it very well.

ISRO needs to increase its lunching capability substantially and here it should work with the private companies... ISRO has planned for one lunch per month and that is a good beginning but ISRO need to scale up its lunching capacity substantially in next 2 /3 years...

ISRO can also gain by making satellites for other countries and lunching them... a very bright future ahead...

Govt must increase in fund allocated to ISRO substantially and ISRO is the very few that is performing very well..

It's not "lunching", its launching.

Launch Capacity:
Two be doubled this year and again doubled in 2018 to make HLV (class of Delta 4 heavy & Ariane 5).

Launch Frequency:
7 last years, 12 launches (7 PSLV, 3 GSLV, 2 GSLV Mk3) scheduled this year.
ISRO has plans to bring frequency to 12-24 launches every year.

 

[mayfair]

Indian space agency ISRO is more economical that Chinese space agency, they have achieved much with 1/4 the budget of the Chinese ~ 6 billion dollars.

Using ISRO launcher PSLV [ I read somewhere] is cheaper than the Chinese...moreover with the operationalizing of GSLV III [upto 4 Tonnes in Geo] will put lot of pressure on Chinese.

Very Important:

Most of the satellites are made by the European & American companies starting from Nano to bigger ones... there is a restriction imposed upon Chinese space agency on lunching these satellites... so Indian space agency ISRO will have clear advantage here... So I see ISRO will gain commercial satellite lunching market in future...

To add to this, let me reiterate my earlier post

Chinese have consistently downplayed the fact that their benefactor Bill Clinton as the Massa president was highly generous in signing wavers that allowed critical space related technology to be transferred to China between 1996-1999, despite the reservations of the intel and security agencies.

The cap on technology transfer was lifted after the first of the Long March rockets exploded in 1996.

This link has all the details

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/how-china-conquered-america746/

February 15, 1996. A Chinese Long March 3B carrying a $200 million Loral satellite explodes 22 seconds after lilftoff.

March 14, 1996. President Clinton shifts control over regulating the export of communications satellites from the State Dept. which was primarily concerned with national security aspects of such exports, to the Commerce Dept., which is concerned with the economic benefits.

May 10, 1996. The Loral-led review commission investigating the February rocket explosion completes and passes on to Chinese officials its report, which according to the April 13, 1998 New York Times, discusses “sensitive aspects of the rocket’s guidance and control systems, which is an area of weakness in China’s missile programs.” The New York Times says that a Pentagon report concludes that, as a result of this technology transfer, “United States national security has been harmed”.

May 23, 1996. President Clinton calls for renewal of MFN for China, saying that renewal would not be “a referendum on all China’s policies,” but “a vote for America’s interests.”

June 8, 1996. China conducts an underground nuclear test.

July 21, 1996. Johnny Chung, according to the New York Times, brings Liu Chao-ying to two DNC fundraisers, including a $25,000 per couple dinner. Liu Chao-ying is a Lieutenant Colonel in the People’s Liberation Army and an executive at China Aerospace, which owns the Great Wall Industry Corp. that makes Long March rockets. Her father is the top commander of Chinese military forces. The New York Times says that Chung has told the Justice Dept. that Liu gave him the better part of $100,000 he contributed to the DNC in the latter part of 1996, and that the source of the money was the PLA.

July 29, 1996. China declares a moratorium on nuclear testing after conducting another nuclear test.

August 8, 1996. According to AP, Clinton meets again with Long Beach officials to advocate turning over the naval base to COSCO.

September 24, 1996. At the UN, President Clinton joins with the foreign ministers of China, France, Russia and Great Britain in signing the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty forbidding all testing of nuclear weapons.

November 5, 1996. President Clinton wins reelection. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the single largest Democratic donor during the election cycle was Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz, who gave $632,000 in ‘soft money’ to the Democratic Party between 1995 and 1996. The State Dept. issues regulations shifting responsibility for satellite launching licenses to the Commerce Dept.

January 1997. The Panamanian government awards the contract to operate the Atlantic and Pacific ports of the Panama Canal to a Hong Kong company, Hutchison Whampoa. China takes control of Hong Kong six months later. The United States, which is set to relinquish control of the canal next year, does not protest.

March 25, 1997. While in Beijing for a meeting with Premier Li Peng and President Jiang Zemin, Vice President Gore attends signing ceremonies for Boeing’s $685 million sale of five jetliners to China’s state-owned Civil Aviation Administration as well as a $1.3 billion joint venture between General Motors and China’s state-owned Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp.

May 1997. According to the April 13, 1998 New York Times, a classified Pentagon report reveals that Hughes and Loral scientists “had turned over expertise that significantly improved the reliability of China’s nuclear missiles” following the February 1996 rocket explosion. Hughes and Loral deny the New York Times report when it is published in 1998.

May 19, 1997. President Clinton announces that he will authorize MFN renewal for China.

October 1997. Chinese President Jiang Zemin makes a state visit to the United States. During the trip, he stops at a Hughes site to discuss satellites.

January 15, 1998. After China promises that it will no longer aid Iran’s nuclear program, President Clinton certifies that China is a reliable partner for nuclear technology exchange.

February 19, 1998. Despite opposition from the Justice Dept, President Clinton signs a waiver approving the launch of a Loral satellite from a Chinese rocket and reportedly authorizing the transfer of the same type of technology that the Pentagon said had “harmed” US security and that the Justice Dept. was investigation Loral and Hughes for their illegally transferring in 1996.

Basically, Cheen bought out/honey trapped Bill Clinton and he generously gave away sensitive technology to them at will.

At the same time, he hand his lackeys such as Robin Raphael were hankering us and trying to intimidate us into signing NPT/CTBT, capping missile and space programmes, denying us the cryogenic technology and orchestrating fake scandals to sabotage our efforts.

I am pretty certain that US was fully aware of Begum Bhutto transferring the nuke knowhow to NK on behalf of China and US. This gives them a perfect justification to stay on in the peninsula. This was the time when NK was going through the arduous march and Suryeong (Kim Il Sung) was dead and Kim Jong Il was trying to establish his legitimacy and authority.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

A shot in arm for HPVP
Contribution to successful launch of satellites by ISRO

Heavy Plate and Vessels Plant, the 17th unit of BHEL has made its contribution to the successful launching of record number satellites by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO). HPVP (erstwhile Bharat Heavy Plates and Vessels) is promised of a bright future ahead with its order book improving. It is now executing an order for supply of nine titanium domes for PSLV launching. HPVP for the first time undertook machining of titanium domes reducing the thickness from 20 mm to 14 mm by developing suitable jigs and fixtures.

BHEL Executive Director J. Govindaswamy in his Republic Day address, said: “By seeing our performance, Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre has given order for nine numbers of titanium domes with machining. These are successfully pressed in our 1600 tonne press and after machining, we have supplied to the customer.”

The titanium domes are used in the prestigious PSLV launches of ISRO, which is a milestone for HPVP. The Visakhapatnam-based plant was acquired by BHEL following a movement by the employees after BHPV turned sick for want of orders. More than three years since erstwhile BHPV was merged with BHEL forming HPVP, it has started making a mark. “The past year has seen a lot of positive developments and vigorous activity in our company. We have reinforced our position in the legacy products by bagging two very important orders for fired heaters valued at around Rs. 50 crore. Our Marketing Department is continuously pursuing with various customers and sister units for further orders to boost our turnover,” Mr. Govindaswamy said.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

achieved much with 1/4 the budget of the Chinese.

1/5th.............................................

 

[bose]

1/5th.............................................

that's better !!

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[HariPrasad-1]

that's better !!

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We can hardly expect anything better from these Congress clone BJP. They do not have any difference in policy of congress. Had any visionary leadership been there, ISRO can outclass every other organization in space.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Hey Everyone, I have decided to quit this forum. I have consistently noticed the overbearing attitude of the folks running this forum. They encourage folks who subscribe to their very narrow worldview - even if it comes with falsehoods, intimidation and insults; while at the same time they suppress facts, science and any view that maybe even narrowly different from their own. I am not very comfortable with authoritarian regimes.
It was fun interacting with several of you on very interesting topics. Most of you have a healthy curiosity and a thirst for learning - glad to be part of that mix!

Do not leave. I do not know what shall happen to you if you go to Pakistan defense forum. Be thick skinned and enjoy.

 

[bose]

We can hardly expect anything better from these Congress clone BJP. They do not have any difference in policy of congress. Had any visionary leadership been there, ISRO can outclass every other organization in space.

My reply was on different context, how ISRO performs exceedingly well even with 1/5 of what Chinese are spending.

I will not bring BJP & Congress here. Let us enjoy the success of ISRO.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

China needs to learn from India on space commerce, says its state-run media after ISRO’s record launch

Is India beating China in its own game — building a low-price, efficient and increasingly reliable model in the space sector?

The Chinese government is possibly asking its space scientists this question.

Days after saying China was way ahead of India in space technology, a grudgingly complimentary state media piece on Monday said the Communist country could learn a “number of lessons” from its neighbour’s low-price and efficiency-driven advantages in the sector.

Last week, India launched 104 satellites, breaking the earlier Russian record of 37 satellites being placed in orbit at one go.

Well done India, but we are ahead in the space race, was the crux of the nationalistic tabloid Global Times’s opinion piece that was published as a response to the launch.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit.”
On Monday, the same newspaper asked a seemingly rhetorical question: “Over the past few days, some people have keenly followed the debate on whether China has lagged behind India in its space race.”

“India’s successful launch of a record-breaking 104 satellites into orbit could serve as a wake-up call for China’s commercial space industry and there are a number of lessons for the country to learn,” the article published in the section “Eye on the Economy” said.

The Chinese commercial space sector has lagged behind the global market and now the country has to learn from the experiences acquired by other countries, India included, on how to commercialise rocket launches.

The focus of the article was on the commercial aspects of India’s space forays.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit,” it said.

“China’s space sector, developing rapidly as an important part of the country’s defence industry, has focused less on cost-control in the past few decades. The country should make a fundamental transformation to allow some institutions in its space sector to run like a business instead of as government-backed research bodies,” the article said.

Restrictions on exporting technology from US

It said part of the reason why China’s space sector is not as commercially viable is because of US restrictions on exporting required technology to the US.

People watch as a rocket from ISRO takes off successfully to launch a record 104 satellites. (PTI Photo)

“Although China is developing rapidly into a major player in the space industry, the country’s commercial space sector is still in its infancy. Many of the world’s satellites are made in or use parts from the US. However, satellites and components made in the US are prohibited from being exported to China, making it very difficult for China to get contracts for commercial satellite launches with other countries,” it said.

But China is likely to put the wherewithal in place quickly.

ChinaRocket Co was established last year to ramp up the commercialization of China’s space sector. The firm has pledged a reduction in the cost of rocket launches by at least 30% through various measures including business model innovation.”

The cost-efficiency race in space is likely to pick up pace soon.

Surprisingly, no chinese troll came to discuss this topic on the article posted on PDF.

I wrote following on PDF in hope that they this may provoke them to discuss but they prefere to ramain absent.

1. China has lagged so much behind India that now they can not catch up. Simple reasons being,
   
   1) India has developed a capabilty to launch satellite in multiple orbit which china can not do.
   2) India has proven that it can virtually launch any numbers of satellies subject to the weight carrying limit of vehicle.
   3) India is working on reusable rocket technology and it is not known whether china is wroking on it or not.
   4) India is all set to use reusable space shuttle and planning to operationalize it in next few years. Do not knnow any such plan of china.
   5) India has successfully tested Scremject technology demonstrator which will reduce the weight of vehicle and improve the thrust a lot. This will make vehicle very small, light weight and will carry a lot more weight in space at a very low cost.
   6) India has an objective to reduce launch cost to just 10% of current cost which china will not match in any foreseeable future.
   7) Currently India has a rocket of modest capability but India is all set to rise it to 4.5 tons in few day and above 6 ton in couple years to come. It is good for all practical purposes.
   8) Mmdhvan nair (Ex ISRO) chief said that ISRO can launch 300 or 400 satellite in one go also which no other country can ever dream of.
   
   Had my article been read by chinese trolls instead of bragging, they would have got all these answers but they choose to troll as usual.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

My reply was on different context, how ISRO performs exceedingly well even with 1/5 of what Chinese are spending.

I will not bring BJP & Congress here. Let us enjoy the success of ISRO.

Ya I know that but I am sad that our government has not realized the potential of ISRO and they are unable to think anything of global scale which ISRO can deliver provided they are funded.

 

[bose]

Ya I know that but I am sad that our government has not realized the potential of ISRO and they are unable to think anything of global scale which ISRO can deliver provided they are funded.

Yes you are right, I also feel the same way... please be patient with present govt, we have given 60 years to congress lets give 5 years to this govt...

 

[Kshatriya87]

Surprisingly, no chinese troll came to discuss this topic on the article posted on PDF.

I wrote following on PDF in hope that they this may provoke them to discuss but they prefere to ramain absent.

1. China has lagged so much behind India that now they can not catch up. Simple reasons being,
   
   1) India has developed a capabilty to launch satellite in multiple orbit which china can not do.
   2) India has proven that it can virtually launch any numbers of satellies subject to the weight carrying limit of vehicle.
   3) India is working on reusable rocket technology and it is not known whether china is wroking on it or not.
   4) India is all set to use reusable space shuttle and planning to operationalize it in next few years. Do not knnow any such plan of china.
   5) India has successfully tested Scremject technology demonstrator which will reduce the weight of vehicle and improve the thrust a lot. This will make vehicle very small, light weight and will carry a lot more weight in space at a very low cost.
   6) India has an objective to reduce launch cost to just 10% of current cost which china will not match in any foreseeable future.
   7) Currently India has a rocket of modest capability but India is all set to rise it to 4.5 tons in few day and above 6 ton in couple years to come. It is good for all practical purposes.
   8) Mmdhvan nair (Ex ISRO) chief said that ISRO can launch 300 or 400 satellite in one go also which no other country can ever dream of.
   
   Had my article been read by chinese trolls instead of bragging, they would have got all these answers but they choose to troll as usual.

Their only argument is that they can carry heavy payloads. This capability is not far from ISRO's hands.


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[Indx TechStyle]

We can hardly expect anything better from these Congress clone BJP. They do not have any difference in policy of congress. Had any visionary leadership been there, ISRO can outclass every other organization in space.

Pretty sure about that?
Do you know that human spaceflight program was about to die under Congress?

As far as budget is concerned, BJP is famous for attempts to make project cost efficient by making it self financing unlike congis who close the entire project.

Under INC, defence budget was brought down because economy was under crisis, under BJP, it's being brought down because share of indigenous inventory has doubled which slashes the cost.

 

[wuzetian]

Commercially they don't need LEO market as they have enough cash for the big ones, but they might as well get into to it just to spoil our party. Thankfully ISRO is not a commercial organisation, i.e not entirely dependant on external revenues.

we will know if chinese are planning such a thing within a year or two.

anyways, our eyes should be on the moon mission planned for this december, the one that is sending the INDUS moon rover.

Other countries don't trust China enough to send their satellites using their launchers.

 

[bose]

Other countries don't trust China enough to send their satellites using their launchers.

I read somewhere the American made satellites can not be launched from China...