INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

[Blue Water Navy]

Yes, we will be operating 4 SSBNs by 2022, so SSN are badly needed.

INS Arighat and the third ship of that class will be ready. But I don't think that the fourth sub-marine will be ready by 2022.

 

[captscooby81]

4th SSBN is already in construction so it will be ready before 2024 for sure . Next will be the S5 class of bigger SSBNs from current Arihant class jugaad SSBN

INS Arighat and the third ship of that class will be ready. But I don't think that the fourth sub-marine will be ready by 2022.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

4th SSBN is already in construction so it will be ready before 2024 for sure . Next will be the S5 class of bigger SSBNs from current Arihant class jugaad SSBN

America has the ohio class. And to counter that Chinese has the Jin class and another 6 under construction. Now India will be building its own SSBN to counter that. So, India will need atleast 6 ships of that class.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Lagta H CDS sabh ko line m laye ga :biggrin2::bounce:

 

[Atcjurvin]

Lagta H CDS sabh ko line m laye ga :biggrin2::bounce:

Haha that's why navy and air force were not supporting post of CDS till now.

 

[Shashwat]

It was a dead meat from the beginning. Why was the Navy so hell bent on a lavish AC? What was the end result? Kickbacks?

It was fishy and unheard off, they were willing to sacrifice other units just for this AC. Moreover such a big ship doesn't justify any propulsion other than nuclear.

They were wishing to cut down the 200 ship target to 175 but they are hell bent on this design, wonder why?. A design of IAC1 is more genuine and economically, practically more viable.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

It was a dead meat from the beginning. Why was the Navy so hell bent on a lavish AC? What was the end result? Kickbacks?

It was fishy and unheard off, they were willing to sacrifice other units just for this AC. Moreover such a big ship doesn't justify any propulsion other than nuclear.

They were wishing to cut down the 200 ship target to 175 but they are hell bent on this design, wonder why?. A design of IAC1 is more genuine and economically, practically more viable.

Is it because indian Navy follows customs and war fighting ideology of Royal navy? Coz i guess royal navy also focuses on having bigger ships and aircraft carrier type stuff?. Just my guess.

 

[Bleh]

I predicted this quite a while ago... It was very likely, but also really bad news for TEDBF. Navy may not need it now.

For now, TEDBF is a concept presented in meeting... that was apparently not rejected. Most pro-desi of all forces, Navy itself doesn't seem averse of the idea. But its future is totally uncertain because the 65000t carrier may reduced to another 50kt one due to cash crunch (just a hunch).

 

[Atcjurvin]

I predicted this quite a while ago... It was very likely, but also really bad news for TEDBF. Navy may not need it now.

TEDBF will replace mig29...............

 

[WolfPack86]

JUST IN: Chief of Defence Staff confirms Livefist report on Indian Navy’s planned 3rd aircraft carrier — says submarines are priority, not third aircraft carrier.

 

[varun9509]

Lagta H CDS sabh ko line m laye ga :biggrin2::bounce:

I hope TEDBF doesn't go off the table as well.

 

[Craigs]

I hope TEDBF doesn't go off the table as well.

I hope it does. No point wasting money on a non-starter.

 

[varun9509]

I hope it does. No point wasting money on a non-starter.

But we need it to replace existing Mig29s?

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[Deathstar]

I hope TEDBF doesn't go off the table as well.

I wish it goes down the priority list

 

[varun9509]

I wish it goes down the priority list

To that, I agree. AMCA and subs are need of the hour.

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[Akula]

Lagta H CDS sabh ko line m laye ga :biggrin2::bounce:

As chances of 65,000ton carrier is almost nil, now Navy will ask for second Vikrant class carrier. They will not leave their dream of acquiring third carrier so fast.

 

[fire starter]

As chances of 65,000ton carrier is almost nil, now Navy will ask for second Vikrant class carrier. They will not leave their dream of acquiring third carrier so fast.

that's what most of fanboys want........

 

[Assassin 2.0]

As chances of 65,000ton carrier is almost nil, now Navy will ask for second Vikrant class carrier. They will not leave their dream of acquiring third carrier so fast.

Second vikrant class carrier is a good deal because it will support our existing infrastructure and skilled labour will be put to use again.
And it will be cheaper too this time we can go with 70-80K tons aircraft carrier.

 

[Knowitall]

It was a dead meat from the beginning. Why was the Navy so hell bent on a lavish AC? What was the end result? Kickbacks?

It was fishy and unheard off, they were willing to sacrifice other units just for this AC. Moreover such a big ship doesn't justify any propulsion other than nuclear.

They were wishing to cut down the 200 ship target to 175 but they are hell bent on this design, wonder why?. A design of IAC1 is more genuine and economically, practically more viable.

Kickbacks.. ??

In case you didn't know it has been almost a decade since navy has been floating this concept.

Is it wrong of them not at all he has said it multiple times but you do realise that carriers go into refits.

The doctrine is 2 in deployment and 1 in refit.

The reason navy is not going for a Vikrant class is because it wants to move over the ski class carrier's and wants to move over to emals as they have a much higher sortie rate and more payload capacity.

It's obvious at one point they will move from the ski design that's why they won't to spend any more money into it.

Of course the Airforce and navy don't want a army CDS.

He talks about utilisation of money while the army fucks up all indigenous projects.

He is yet to talk about the biggest sham that is the 464 t-90s deal.

The army has been successfully delaying lch luh while they keep running after Apache.

The do the same thing with artillery they have been delaying ATAGS.

Atleast with navy one can be confident of having a proper plan and idea behind it.

It's army that needs it budget trimmed.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Navy isn't going to drop the idea of a third AC. So, all go for a second Vikrant.