INS Chakra/Akula II

[nrj]

when are the kilos with the Brahmos fitting going to arrive????

I am not sure if any test launches have been carried out yet for Brahmos SL. But if they have already, then we should expect it soon but not that sooner IMO.

 

[nrj]

Can any gyan guru enlighten that how many more subs are india funding for the rest of K-152 Class Nuke Subs

Yes the 1+2 news seems to be true. But I feel reason it might take time is because of non readiness of K-X final config to be incorporated into these subs. Damn we need land based tests soon to make the submerged babes ride with pride while holding deadly K-X. However, these testing will take hell lot of time with trial & check procedure.

 

[neo29]

The news of Chakra handed over to India sailors and onward home is out. But if u notice the news in hush hush and not getting the media attention it deserves. Wonder why is that ???

 

[bhramos]

The news of Chakra handed over to India sailors and onward home is out. But if u notice the news in hush hush and not getting the media attention it deserves. Wonder why is that ???

It takes 40-50 Days for arrival in India, and may be political reasons, If it was Inducted in Grand way, its like pinching and showing, so it may be only grand ceremony at arrival, but this will attract the World nations and ask for lease of N-subs for their countries too.....

 

[bhramos]

Russian Akula N-sub handed over to India, homeward bound

NEW DELHI: With India all set to get the K-152 Nerpa submarine from Russia on a 10-year lease towards end of this year, Indian sailors have begun training on the nuclear-powered attack submarine.

Nerpa quietly left its base on Russia's Pacific coast earlier this week, with over 50 Indian sailors on board, on what will be an extensive and complex process of training, testing and acceptance trials spread over several weeks before the Akula-II class submarine is commissioned into Indian Navy as INS Chakra.

The 'Charlie-I' class nuclear submarine India had leased from Russia from 1988 to 1991 was also named INS Chakra but the expertise gained on it was steadily lost since Indian Navy did not operate any other nuclear submarine thereafter.

Nerpa's lease flows from an agreement inked between New Delhi and Moscow in January 2004, with India funding part of Nerpa's construction with an initial sum of $650 million. The final lease and training agreements were finalized during Russian PM Putin's visit.

Read more: Russian Akula N-sub handed over to India, homeward bound - India - The Times of India Russian Akula N-sub handed over to India, homeward bound - India - The Times of India

 

[bhramos]

Nerpa nuclear submarine sets sail from Russia for India

MOSCOW (PTI): Russia has handed over a new nuclear powered submarine armed with torpedos and cruise missiles to India and the vessel has set sail for home with a mixed crew of Indian and Russian sailors.

The Akula class nuclear attack submarine on a ten year lease to the Indian Navy left its base on the Pacific coast earlier this week, bound for India, RIA Novosti and Interfax news agencies reported.

With the expected induction of Nerpa by year-end, it will be after 19 years that the Indian Navy would have a nuclear submarine in its fleet.

India's indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant is presently undergoing sea test trials.

However, an official of the shipyard said that the submarine was still undergoing final sea trials. The Russian Navy's Pacific Command refused to comment.

Reports said that the Nerpa submarine which has been re-christened INS Chakra leased at a cost of USD 650 million is accompanied by Russian instructors, who will help Indian naval crew to bring it to the new port of deployment.

"The Nerpa has not been yet handed over to the Indian Navy," an official of the Amur Shipyard in Russia's far eastern Khabarovsk region said over phone.

"Presently the joint Indian-Russian naval crew is completing the combat training on the high seas," the shipyard official added.

But experts here do not rule out that the Russian Navy wants to formally hand over Nerpa to the Indian Navy on the Indian coast and the so-called training mission could be a cover for security reasons.

The submarine has been handed over two years after an accident onboard during testing killed 20 people. The Amur shipyard, the builders of the sub said the vessel was now completely retrofitted after the November 2008 accident

Russia's Akula-II class submarine is considered to be the quietest nuclear submarine and during its trials by the Russian Navy since January its acoustic noises have been further reduced by the Amur Shipyard, which was initially to deliver the submarine in 2007.

Nerpa nuclear submarine sets sail from Russia for India :: Brahmand.com

 

[sayareakd]

The news of Chakra handed over to India sailors and onward home is out. But if u notice the news in hush hush and not getting the media attention it deserves. Wonder why is that ???

neo why you want media attention, those who know nuke subs know what it really means for Indian navy and its future.

Our advisories, friends and neutrals knows what kind of capabilities it provide to India.

 

[Tshering22]

I was curious to know guys, what would have been the prospects of leasing a Typhoon class submarine from Russia? They're HUGE and a really huge weapons capability.

 

[Param]

I was curious to know guys, what would have been the prospects of leasing a Typhoon class submarine from Russia? They're HUGE and a really huge weapons capability.

They can launch SLBMs, maybe that's why we can't lease them. BTW when i first saw this picture I only noticed the people on the Beach and not the Submarine.

 

[bhramos]

I was curious to know guys, what would have been the prospects of leasing a Typhoon class submarine from Russia? They're HUGE and a really huge weapons capability.

Their is only one Typhoon class submarine active, which is used by Russia to test Bulava Missiles, why they lease it to India.???
but under Russian command can we test Brahmos Under water CM and K-15 SLBM in Russia???

 

[sayareakd]

some things are not for sale/lease or even shown to others Typhoon class submarine is one such thing (other is russian pill box super radar) IMHO.

but dont worry we have our own baby boomer class called Arihant with 4 (Agni 3 SL) or 12 (k15) or combination of both.

that gives us great capabilities to survive any nuke attack and retaliate in kind to enemy.

with K15 and its gliding RV it is very unpredictable so much so that it wont give much time to mid course interceptor to react. Unlike the ballistic missiles trajectory of which is predictable and counter defence can be made used BMD systems.

no country with Typhoon class submarine with nukes will allow it to be lease to others unless it is in very very big trouble financially.

 

[bhramos]

India Leases Russian Sub That Had Fatal Accident

MOSCOW - Russia has handed over a new nuclear-powered submarine to India under a 10-year lease, two years after a fire on the vessel during its first sea trials killed 20 Russian seamen and engineers, Russian news agencies reported Aug. 20, citing sources in the defense industry.

"All necessary documents were signed and the submarine led by the Indian crew departed toward one of the Indian naval bases," a source told the official RIA Novosti news agency.

India Leases Russian Sub That Had Fatal Accident - Defense News

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I was curious to know guys, what would have been the prospects of leasing a Typhoon class submarine from Russia? They're HUGE and a really huge weapons capability.

India need a formidable hunter-killer nuclear submarine in Indian Ocean, presently Indian Arihant in test also in war time it will be more a boomer than a hunter-killer..
Think, What kind of a nightmare a Akula can be for PLA small Diesel-electric subs in Indian Oceans, ( Its like a great white hunting for bull sharks.. lol ), Also she is specialized in hunting carrier fleets..

 

[nitesh]

can any body interpret the word "several", and there TWO already contracted

Russia to Lease Shchuka-B Class Submarines to India | India Defence
Russia to Lease Shchuka-B Class Submarines to India

Russia could lease several Shchuka-B class nuclear attack submarines to India in coming years, a top official here said though the delivery of the first of the two nuke subs reportedly contracted by India is far behind schedule.

"Yes, there is a real possibility of leasing for ten years several of our nuclear powered multi-role submarines of Project 971 of 'Shchuka-B'class," the Director of Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) Mikhail Dmitriyev was quoted as saying by ITAR-TASS.

 

[bhramos]

India need a formidable hunter-killer nuclear submarine in Indian Ocean, presently Indian Arihant in test also in war time it will be more a boomer than a hunter-killer..
Think, What kind of a nightmare a Akula can be for PLA small Diesel-electric subs in Indian Oceans, ( Its like a great white hunting for bull sharks.. lol ), Also she is specialized in hunting carrier fleets..

I think these Akula-II / sharks are wit out teeth........
what kind of offensive capabilities could these offer!!!!!!!! other then patrolling

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I think these Akula-II / sharks are wit out teeth........
what kind of offensive capabilities could these offer!!!!!!!! other then patrolling

No my friend, the one which is about to show up here, have:

10 x 533mm Torpedo tubes ( No of torpedo are 28 for 533mm )
4 x 650mm torpedo tubes ( No of torpedo/missiles are 12 for 650mm )

Klub missiles can be launched from 533mm tubes, and bigger missiles can be launch from 650mm tubes..

Akula is extremely stealthy under water, also underwater it runs at speed Over 70km/h ( 35knots ), It is deigned to kil enemy subs also destroy enemy carrier fleets with long range missiles, though we will no field long range missle but can use Klub class missiles..

 

[Sri]

Russia to transfer K-152 Nerpa Submarine to India on Ten Year lease in March 2011

Russia to transfer K-152 Nerpa Submarine to India on Ten Year lease in March 2011

Russia will transfer the K-152 Nerpa attack submarine to India on a 10-year lease in March 2011, the governor of the Far East Khabarovsk region said on Friday. While K-152 Nerpa was undergoing sea trials in the Sea of Japan on 8 November 2008, an accident caused the deaths of some twenty sailors and injury to twenty-one others.

A fire suppression system discharged gas in the bow of the sub, suffocating civilian specialists and navy crew members. The boat is now fully operational following repairs.

"The boat has been handed over [to the fleet] now. According to the agreement, it will be transferred to India in March of the next year," Vyacheslav Shport told journalists.

The $900-million lease contract was drawn up after Moscow and New Delhi sealed a deal in January 2004, in which India agreed to fund part of the Nerpa's construction. The Nerpa was originally scheduled to be introduced into the Indian Navy as INS Chakra by mid-2008.

Russia to transfer K-152 Nerpa Submarine to India on Ten Year lease in March 2011 | India Defence

 

[abirbec04]

:emot112: Fantastic news ............. :emot112:

 

[Sridhar]

Shelved with the device / / Date submarine "Seal" is shifted due to the aging of its equipment
Z-Online, 05.10.2010

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Photo: Vladimir Pavlov / Kommersant

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The term of the transfer of nuclear submarine "Seal" in the leasing of India moved up because of "minor problems" found during the ship's practices.

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About it, "Kommersant said yesterday the deputy minister of industry, communications and transport Khabarovsk Krai Sergey Ivashkin.

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According to him, the problem is being committed is not the fault of the plant, but because of vendor devices "and now all problems are eliminated.

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A source at the plant suggests that the devices could be rendered unusable because of the limitations of their manufacture.

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APL "Seal" (K-152, project 971, class "Pike-B, according to NATO classification - Akula II, serial number 518) refers to the third generation of submarines.

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Was founded in 1991.

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In 2002, under 70 per cent availability, construction was halted due to lack of funds.

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In 2004 it was announced that the contract for the completion and commissioning it in 2007 in rent for ten years of Navy in India.

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In 2006 launched.

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Indian Navy, which planned to name the boat Chakra, were willing to pay $ 650 million, although the Russian side insisted on increasing the fee to $ 785 million on Nov. 8, 2008 during the sea trials, "Seal" in the Sea of Japan as a result of the unauthorized inclusion of automatic fire extinguishing system Loch killed 20 people, another 41 people were hospitalized.

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APL "Seal" was introduced in the Russian Navy on Dec. 28, 2009, in full has successfully completed the test in early June 2010.

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According to the Defense Ministry plans Nerpa had to give India a lease before the end of the year.

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Earlier, the governor of the region Vyacheslav Shport reported that the submarine will be handed over to India only in March 2011, stating that the terms have shifted as a result of force majeure.

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Yesterday Sergey Ivashkin told Kommersant that the reason for the postponement were problems with equipment submarine.

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"During the tests, no problems, only in the performance of the test program has a problem, and the fault of suppliers of instruments and mechanisms, and through no fault of the plant (Amur shipbuilding plant, which was built nuclear submarine .-" b ")" - said Mr. Ivashkin.

Specific instruments in which problems occur, the deputy minister refused to name, but noted that it was "fighting appliances mechanism."

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"Specific devices that are responsible for the normal functioning of the ship. At 500 meters under water even pan perekipit - any issue could become critical. Secondary devices there is no" - added the official.

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Information about that problem for APL associated with noise problems at great depths, Sergei Ivashkin neither confirmed nor denied.

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A source in the Russian Defense Ministry also said yesterday that the problem is not the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex.

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Press officer ASP Marina Radaeva yesterday was not available for comment, chief engineer of the plant Viktor Mishkin was on a business trip in BUT Big Stone (which now, according to some, is the submarine Seal "), and contact him failed.

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A source who is aware of the problems with the delivery of the submarine, has suggested that problems could arise because of the statute of limitations fabrication of devices that are installed on submarines.

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Expert Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, Andrei Frolov, in a conversation with Kommersant said the submarine of project 971 were not introduced into service in 2001 and extensive co-operation of their construction has long been lost, and therefore most likely devices for submarines were delivered from the warehouses.

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Evgeny Sychev, Khabarovsk, Ivan Konovalov

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[Rage]

This is bull&hit. This keep getting delayed every few months.

They'd better amortize the value of the contract properly, to take into account all these 'delays' and 'minor problems' found in the 'ship's practices'.