India's SAARC satellite project to proceed without Pakistan

[gslv markIII]

If BADR was not a sat than what is? Sputnik?

Universities in India make bigger satellites,if you didn't knew.

 

[sorcerer]

SAARC satellite, what a joke.First launch a spysat over USA.

What is the use of launching a spysat over USA for India?

 

[gslv markIII]

Like I said we have a very small budget but the technological know how is there to build bigger sats

Tell me what technological know-how is there in your country.

If there was,you wouldn't have to run to China for Paksat 1 & PRSS programs.

 

[bose]

If BADR was not a sat than what is? Sputnik?

Like I said we have a very small budget but the technological know how is there to build bigger sats. Only a matter of time.

ok... good luck !!

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[Indx TechStyle]

Yes we can and we have done it.

When?
Tell me a single indigenous satellite made without foreign help in pure land.

we do have a very mature missile programe

How?

and the technology can be easily converted for civil use.

India's most powerful missile in service (Agni 5) can lift not more than 50kg to LEO. How will your missiles do that?

 

[Neo]

ok... good luck !!

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Building a satellite is no longer a challenge, universities can build one. The real challenge lies in the delivery system, a slv. We can convert our shaheen missiles for that purpose. India did the same.

 

[Anupu]

Yes we can and we have done it. Eventhough the national space program runs on a very small budget, we do have a very mature missile programe and the technology can be easily converted for civil use.

Hopefully in a few years we'll have a better budget.

Missiles can't be used for launching satellites, they don't have enough lift to take anything in LEO.

 

[Anupu]

Building a satellite is no longer a challenge, universities can build one. The real challenge lies in the delivery system, a slv. We can convert our shaheen missiles for that purpose. India did the same.

No, SLV is not same as a missile. And satellite building takes experience.

 

[gslv markIII]

India did the same

Pathetic knowledge.Our missile program was developed from our space program.Not vice versa

 

[gslv markIII]

The real challenge lies in the delivery system, a slv. We can convert our shaheen missiles for that purpose.

Can hardly launch anything more than 50-60 kg to LEO.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

We can convert our shaheen missiles for that purpose. India did the same.

Who told you that? India tried to make ICBMs in 70s in project valiant which later failed.
Later, rockets were developed in late 80s and first Indian Missiles came in 90s.
Both projects were parallel.

 

[Neo]

Does Pakistanis giving the overland rights to us sending goods to our brothers in Afghanistan ??

No, not happening anytime soon unless you give up afghan based proxies against us.

Good news is that China is eyeing the Chahbahar port, the only alternative India has to access CAR.

 

[gslv markIII]

Building a satellite is no longer a challenge, universities can build one.

So you consider a few microsatellite build by a few universities by integrating parts from various international suppliers as some kind of an achievement ?

The height of ignorance,really.

 

[sorcerer]

indigenous satellite...errr..indigenous ideology paki have is the 72 virgins looking down at them..and pakis looking up at their bum.

Even if pak wants own space program.china wont allow it nor share tech with pakis.

Pakistan raises security issues to oppose SAARC satellite project
NEW DELHI: Pakistan tried to throw a spanner in the works of the proposed SAARC satellite project conceived by Prime Minister Narendra Modi by raising several queries at the meeting last Monday in Delhi on the objectives of the satellite which it said could infringe on its security, officials said.

Although Pakistan eventually agreed to participate in the project, it said the satellite, which will be operated by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), could allow India to
secure key data on Pakistan's sensitive infrastructure.

The satellite project is aimed at providing support in areas of telemedicine, weather forecasting and communication. The aim is to put the satellite into orbit by 2016.

The eight-member SAARC delegation raised doubts at the meet as to whether the satellite will enable India to get data on Pakistan's sensitive infrastructure. The delegation also raised questions on India's possible access to marine and ecological wealth data in South Asia via this satellite.


Officials said the government, represented at the meet by the external affairs ministry and ISRO tried to address all doubts raised by the Pakistani delegation.

Pakistani officials, however, said that their country made many constructive proposals for intra-SAARC partnership in the area of space given Pakistan's experience and expertise in peaceful uses of space science. Pakistan hopes that the suggestions put forward by its delegation at the SAARC satellite project meeting will be given due consideration, the officials said.


Pakistan has played a spoiler for pan-South Asia projects in the past. It has not allowed signing of SAARC Motor Vehicles Act and SAARC Railways agreement. The conclusion of these two agreements was stalled at the last minute at the 2014 SAARC summit in Nepal. Subsequently Bangladesh, Bhutan, India and Nepal signed a sub-regional motor vehicles agreement for better integration among the four countries


Indian officials, however, expressed satisfaction that Monday's meeting saw a full house including a minister from Maldives. Various SAARC countries sought different kinds of assistance via this satellite. Afghanistan has a satellite, but it is weak in some aspects and the country's representative was keen on knowing how the new satellite can help their existing system. Nepal wants the satellite to assist the country with disaster management .


The SAARC countries will now apply for registration before launching a satellite. The United Nations Outer Space Treaty's Article 6 mandates that every nation putting items in space must register it with the UN Office of Outer Space Affairs. India is constructing the SAARC satellite and bearing all costs. The satellite will weigh around 2,000 kg and will be launched from Sriharikota.


Modi had first proposed this satellite last year as India's gift to SAARC. He mentioned the satellite in SAARC Summit and later, in his address to the Sri Lankan Parliament in March, he said, "Sri Lanka will take full benefit of India's satellite for the SAARC Region

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[gslv markIII]

Here is an example of Pakistan's satellite building capabilities.Badr B-weighs 68 kg,& carries an imported camera with resolution of 250 meter.It doesn't even have an active stabilization.Believe me,much of this is kit assembled.

Operated for hardly a month before blowing a fuse @Neo

 

[Neo]

Happy trolling everyone.

 

[Anupu]

No, not happening anytime soon unless you give up afghan based proxies against us.

Good news is that China is eyeing the Chahbahar port, the only alternative India has to access CAR.

Early days, my friend. Early days....

 

[Gessler]

Problem with Pakistan is that it is neither capable of meeting it's own requirements, nor wants India to help.

Either way it does not make a difference for us - if they don't want to make use of the benefits offered by advanced Earth-Observation in the fields of agriculture, weather-forecasting & disaster-management, who are we to convince them otherwise? It's not like we or the other SAARC countries are dependent on the monetary or technological assistance rendered by SUPARCO to achieve their goals!

I'm glad we decided to cut Pak loose when we did. They would have only ruined the effort for everyone if we kept them around anymore. ISRO can go ahead.

I wonder if we can expand the large IRS constellation so that it can render equally effective services for cooperative SAARC countries at low costs.

 

[gslv markIII]

Happy trolling everyone.

You claimed that 'Pakistan can build satellites' and now you are running away ?

Since you care much about of the delusions of grandeur & paranoia of your military generals,so much that you have their rants proudly displayed in your signature-I wan't you to see this.

Ever heard of Paksat 1 ? It was launched back in 1996 BY Hughes for Indonesia .Later Indonesia declared the satellite unusable after an electric power anomaly and it was acquired by Pakistan from Hughes Global Services on Full Time Lease " and relocated to Pakistan's reserved slot in December 2002.

This what your army general & then president-Gen.Musharraf had to say about it...

“Pakistan’s space programme is now ahead of India after the formal launching of Paksat-I and this is due to the hard work of our scientists and I am sure Indians would take another 30 months to do the job,” Gen Musharraf claimed.''

'An inflated sense of self-importance and grossly misplaced self-assumed greatness',perhaps ?

Yeah man,you leased a damaged satellite and that puts you ahead of a country with established orbital launch capability.And remember,when you were leasing defunct satellites back in 2003 we were making & launching our own geostationary & EO satellites and launching them for other countries too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_Experiment_Satellite

 

[Gessler]

Pakistan operated 5 satellites to date.

PakSat-1 : Built by Hughes Space & Communications Company of US in 1993 for the Indonesian space agency. Indonesia transferred control of the satellite to SUPARCO of Pakistan. Was originally launched by a US Atlas-2AS rocket.

PakSat-1R : Built by China Great Wall Industry Corporation (CGWIC), based on their DFH-4 satellite bus design. Launched by a Chinese CZ-3B rocket.

Badr-A : Built by SUPARCO, but launched by a Chinese CZ-2E rocket. Contact lost after a month of operation due to an electrical failure.

Badr-B : Developed mostly by British space & scientific institutes. Launched by a Russian Zenit-2 rocket.

ICube-1 : Developed by IST Pakistan, but launched by a Russian Dnepr rocket. Was placed in orbit but no signals received. Mission failed.

Total 5 sats, 3 built mostly/entirely by foreign companies, both of the 2 sats that were mostly indigenous have been failures. So much for launching procured sounding rockets few years before India and chest thumping about it...

 

[Anupu]

Do any of you guys follow the work at SpaceX?