India's Moon Exploration Program

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There's nothing to be ashamed of. The Americans could not even properly launch their early rockets into space:


Bit did they stop? Change course? No they mastered their failure prone early rocket first and then proceeded to more complex rocket programs. Stay the course, master, challenge yourself with more complex and ambitious projects, then stay the courseagain, master it, and on and on.
 

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Fake journalism continues unchecked!!
With absolutely no evidence, this idiot make up a headline like this below:
Gaganyaan needs only GSlv mk3 and the crew module (that does NOT land propulsively) - both have been tested!
Vikram lander is a propulsive lander that’s NOT required in Gaganyaan! How does it’s failure put a question mark on Gaganyaan????

Chandrayaan 2: Vikram lander’s failure raises questions on manned mission
https://indianexpress.com/article/t...s-manned-mission-gaganyaan-isro-moon-5976282/
 

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Fake journalism continues unchecked!!
With absolutely no evidence, this idiot make up a headline like this below:
Gaganyaan needs only GSlv mk3 and the crew module (that does NOT land propulsively) - both have been tested!
Vikram lander is a propulsive lander that’s NOT required in Gaganyaan! How does it’s failure put a question mark on Gaganyaan????

Chandrayaan 2: Vikram lander’s failure raises questions on manned mission
https://indianexpress.com/article/t...s-manned-mission-gaganyaan-isro-moon-5976282/
Level of media.......................
 

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Check out the link I put up. Blokes any idea on how to upright a lander?
I thought that Landers and Rovers on such missions are designed orientation independent.
Rovers are, Landers aren't (propulsion nozzles below).
IMG_20190908_073148_656.jpg
If Vikram was programmed to release the lander, whatever that circumstances, it would still be deployed even when not connected to ISRO. Maybe that's a thing they'll learn & rectify.
 

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Rovers are, Landers aren't (propulsion nozzles below).View attachment 38302 If Vikram was programmed to release the lander, whatever that circumstances, it would still be deployed even when not connected to ISRO. Maybe that's a thing they'll learn & rectify.
Poor design of chute.
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Team Indus is also there with its own lander and Rover. But if ISRO plans another mission can they give them a chance.
 

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India's next Moon shot will be bigger, in pact with Japan | India News - Times of India

BENGALURU: Isro is raring for another shot at the Moon. Its next mission is likely to be bigger and better, and may include bringing back samples from the Moon's polar region.

For this mission - Lunar Polar Exploration - Isro will be tying up with Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (Jaxa). "Isro and Jaxa scientists are conducting a feasibility study to realise a joint satellite mission to explore the Moon's polar region," Isro said in a statement.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...r-in-pact-with-japan/articleshow/71030437.cms
 

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Comment section is filled with obnoxious , judgemental , supremacist people probably Americans self bloating over NASa(fair enough) thanx to Nazi engineers and op paperclip
Let's be real... Most USA citizens don't even know ISRO.

NASA has achieved moon landings 50 years back and the NASA work surpasses other space agencies work by a factor of 50:1

It is not there fault if they find supremacy in this. Don't we show supremacy over Pakis bcoz of there 0 s*** space program. It's normal human instinct.

I think the Mission in which the world will be interested is Venus Mission. No exploration of the same has taken place in recent decades.
 

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Let's be real... Most USA citizens don't even know ISRO.

NASA has achieved moon landings 50 years back and the NASA work surpasses other space agencies work by a factor of 50:1

It is not there fault if they find supremacy in this. Don't we show supremacy over Pakis bcoz of there 0 s*** space program. It's normal human instinct.

I think the Mission in which the world will be interested is Venus Mission. No exploration of the same has taken place in recent decades.
NASA has achieved that through lots of failure and pain and hardwork and investment. They didn't pay attention to here and there, took any mishaps in stride , learnt from them and kept moving forward.

The amount of bitching about the opinions of 'muh porkis' and 'muh americans' on this thread even though there has been so much positive support from the rest of the world pisses me off.
What would happen if there is a similar incident like challenger or columbia with our human spaceflight programme? Fuck porkis' and the rest of the world we focus on our own house.
The sort of behaviour displayed is no different from all those people going to 'gora reacts to indian stuff' YouTube channels for validation.
Our scientists don't work so hard so we could spam 'pkmkb' on the net and stand with our dicks out on every success. They do it for the advancement of science. Please respect them.
 

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Comment section is filled with obnoxious , judgemental , supremacist people probably Americans self bloating over NASa(fair enough) thanx to Nazi engineers and op paperclip
Don't be too onion skinned. It's just an attempt to explain what happens. Mistakes and failures are expected espcially for such complex task as moon landing. No one can take away the fact that India is only the 5th country to have a moon mission.

ISRO will eventually succeed.
 

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Reminds me of Israel's earlier setback. But expect them to keep on trying.


Incidentally, commercial space companies are becoming more and more cheaper, and more and more capable for bigger payloads for longer distances.

SpaceX is slready testing its Starhopper rocket:

 

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they should send one more within a year ,for all the talk about this mission being successful cause of orbiter. It was not about orbiter but about lander & technology to land....this is a humiliation not an achievement....8 years down the drain along with 900cr.
 

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they should send one more within a year ,for all the talk about this mission being successful cause of orbiter. It was not about orbiter but about lander & technology to land....this is a humiliation not an achievement....8 years down the drain along with 900cr.
Yeah, you are the people we need to be wary of. What the fuck, man.
 

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they should send one more within a year ,for all the talk about this mission being successful cause of orbiter. It was not about orbiter but about lander & technology to land....this is a humiliation not an achievement....8 years down the drain along with 900cr.
Lander technology is new to ISRO. China, US, USSR now Russia have mastered this technology. We need to keep pushing and improving to eventually make it safe for human flight to moon.

With adequate funding now being received by ISRO and increased interest by youth who are technically qualified, they will surely get it done.

Main question is what went wrong from 5.5km to 2.1km. Was it a thruster failure? Was it a technical glitch? Was it automation failure? These questions must be answered first before any future missions. QA must be further strengthened and the tech matured even further.

I am sure Chandrayaan 3 is on the radar, maybe with Japanese technology before 2023/24.
 

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they should send one more within a year ,for all the talk about this mission being successful cause of orbiter. It was not about orbiter but about lander & technology to land....this is a humiliation not an achievement....8 years down the drain along with 900cr.
Looks like you are here for a good time , not long time. These things do happen in space exploration, as boundaries are pushed, new technologies are tested, failures is how you get better. I suggest you go and check out how much time it took for space X to do a soft landing on Earth, even after multiple failures (which is an understatement), they didn't stop trying it, and finally they succeeded.
If you can't really be supportive at hard times, then don't be one at all.
 

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they should send one more within a year ,for all the talk about this mission being successful cause of orbiter. It was not about orbiter but about lander & technology to land....this is a humiliation not an achievement....8 years down the drain along with 900cr.
India is behind the rest cz of such attitude i.e fear of failure. Look at the rest of space agencies , NASA gained its reputation after 50-60 years of space exploration , similarly with others. They landed humans on the moon on the 11th attempt and after losing astronauts hence apollo 11.
Chinese lost their mars probe but didn't whine ,they are going to try again.
Space X is an epitome of space exploration.
Money is not a matter nor is anykind of humiliation.
Failures propel us to success
 

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here comes the certificate holders on patriotism...this mission is a failure period. 8 years of R&D down the drain, along with taxpayer money. It was all about building tech for landing & not about orbiter. Chinks, American & others are laughing behind our back even if they don't show it openly....ISRO need to accept the humiliation & launch a mission within a year, they don't even need to send a orbiter now.
 

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this is a humiliation
Far from being that. We obviously didn't get what we wanted. But if we are humiliated where most rest of world is? Nowhere even around us. We still missed at last minute.

Sending another mission in rush won't only show India's desperation but will also have risk of similar failure. India should stick to its timeline and maintain that it isn't competing with anyone.
Things will fall in line once our tech matures.
8 years down the drain along with 900cr.
900 cr down the drain? Do tou know that lander/rover set didn't even hold a third of value?
They were only symbolic technology demonstrators. Real research payloads will work for 7 years.
here comes the certificate holders on patriotism...this mission is a failure period. 8 years of R&D down the drain, along with taxpayer money. It was all about building tech for landing & not about orbiter. Chinks, American & others are laughing behind our back even if they don't show it openly....ISRO need to accept the humiliation & launch a mission within a year, they don't even need to send a orbiter now.
If your brain is fragile, eyes & ears are witnessing illusions, you don't know about anything, can only rhetorical statements with zero reasoning and are an idiot, you don't need to bother comment here.

You are humiliating yourself only with your ignorance.
 

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here comes the certificate holders on patriotism...this mission is a failure period. 8 years of R&D down the drain, along with taxpayer money. It was all about building tech for landing & not about orbiter. Chinks, American & others are laughing behind our back even if they don't show it openly....ISRO need to accept the humiliation & launch a mission within a year, they don't even need to send a orbiter now.
Eh! Why did they cluttered orbiter with such expensive and complex instruments if the aim was only soft landing?

Soft landing was part of mission which failed.
Your understanding is very childish. In science everything is a process and the measure of success is to see how far along have we come in the process since last time.

And we have come far along. The orbitar is more sophisticated than lats attempt. The lander reached 90% of its path flawless before mishap.

Regarding USA , china let them laugh. If we ever cared for their laughing we wouldn't dare to attempt.
 

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