Indian response to a Pakistani nuclear strike

[ice berg]

See, now you finally accept what my claim was. All this "instead" bullshit just so that you can have space to fill and nothing worthwhile to write about! So pathetic!

Jingoism is not pathetic for you, but question it is bullshit? tsk tsk. You are a special kid.

 

[ice berg]

Do you realise how stupid you guys have been by arming Pak with Nukes? even without being a party in the war between the two nations, you will end up with largest amount of damage and deaths.

I havnt notifced so far. Point me out how many who have died because of Pakistan nukes?

 

[ice berg]

Sir the economy of China will automatically go down and this in turn will effect the poor and the rich may get some relief but the economy still will have a diverse effect by the nuclear fallout. This will lead the death of poor. Do you mean to say that poor people in China don't have the right to live?

No I mean IF there is a nuclear war. We are all dead. Or at least your guys are dead. I am nowhere near Asia. Ha.

 

[ice berg]

By then there will be no Pakistan. We will have our missile shield by 2014-15 in all the major cities and we will stop a higher rate of damage.

You dont buy the missile shield part, do you? It is all about domestic comsumption. It is shield and spear thing. What happends if someone buys a new shield? Easy, you buy more spears. Especially if you dont know if the shield works.

 

[Tolaha]

Jingoism is not pathetic for you, but question it is bullshit? tsk tsk. You are a special kid.

Retaliation != Jingoism.

- Answered on behalf of all the special kids in this world.

 

[happy]

It seems Rediff is also following DFI !!! But unfortunately, the conclusion they provided is not worth discussing for the simple reason that it is not implementable. Read On !!

How catastrophic will an Indo-Pak nuclear armageddon be?

A nuclear war between India and Pakistan would result in a global famine that could kill over two billion people -- a quarter of the world's population -- and end human civilisation, a study warned on Tuesday.

"A nuclear war using only a fraction of existing arsenals would produce massive casualties on a global scale -- far more than we had previously believed," said Ira Helfand, the study's author and co-president of the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War.

In a previous study in 2012, the Nobel Peace Prize-winning IPPNW and Physicians for Social Responsibility said that a nuclear famine could kill more than a billion people.

The new study 'Nuclear Famine: Two Billion People at Risk?' is based upon research published by climate scientists who have assessed the impact of nuclear explosions on the Earth's atmosphere and other ecosystems.

According to the study, a nuclear war using as few as 100 weapons anywhere in the world would disrupt the global climate and agricultural production so severely that the lives of more than two billion people would be in jeopardy.

"A billion people dead in the developing world is obviously a catastrophe unparallelled in human history. But then if you add to that the possibility of another 1.3 billion people in China being at risk, we are entering something that is clearly the end of civilisation," Helfand said.

"Chinese winter wheat production would fall 50 per cent in the first year and, averaged over the entire decade after the war, would be 31 per cent below baseline," it said.

"The prospect of a decade of widespread hunger and intense social and economic instability in the world's largest country has immense implications for the entire global community, as does the possibility that the huge declines in Chinese wheat production will be matched by similar declines in other wheat producing countries," Helfand said.

He said the study looked at India and Pakistan as the two sides have fought three full-fledged wars since 1947.

But the author also said that the earth would expect a similar impact from any limited nuclear war. Modern atomic weapons are far more powerful than the US bombs that killed more than 200,000 people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

"Countries around the world -- those who are nuclear-armed and those who are not -- must work together to eliminate the threat and consequences of nuclear war," Helfand said.

"In order to eliminate this threat, we must eliminate nuclear weapons," he added.

How catastrophic will an Indo-Pak nuclear armageddon be? - Rediff.com News

 

[Agustya]

The only way there can be peace with China is if there is Mutually Assured Destruction . That isn't the situation we have today. They have tested in the order of megatons. Not to mention they have MIRV capable delivery systems. Forgive me for sounding like Bharat Karnad, but we have a 20 kT fizzle, and a single warhead delivery system. I hate to say this, but we will be reduced. China will walk away scot-free.

Priorities for India : 1) Get an AGNI V on the Arihant (preferable develop a version of AGNI with 10 MIRV). 2) Put 6 Arihants along the coast of the South China sea. 3) Test again.

 

[Agustya]

You dont buy the missile shield part, do you? It is all about domestic comsumption. It is shield and spear thing. What happends if someone buys a new shield? Easy, you buy more spears. Especially if you dont know if the shield works.

What happens when India arms Vietnam with nuclear weapons?

 

[Glint]

The probability of China or India using nuclear warheads are 0 to none.
Both are huge nations and mutual destruction is for sure.
Pakistan is the only country who threatens his enemies with Nukes cause he knows he can't fight head on.

 

[Compersion]

The next time that North Korea tests - India ought to test immediately. It ridiculous that PRC is able to test through its proxies and the world is allowing that to be the case. Also Pakistan indirectly gets benefit from such testing. Further if the nuclear understanding and composition of the world is evolved because of a another India nuclear test(s) that would be good for the world and region. India has to tell the world that North Korea testing is a farce and it wont allow such mockery.

Also is there any safeguard that Prevents Pakistan from targeting its Nuclear weapons towards PRC. The Chinese are pragmatic and i am absolutely sure they have safeguard. After-all the Pakis slept and continue to sleep with the Americans and also no one knows what the Paki-PRC relationship will be in the future.

 

[happy]

Also is there any safeguard that Prevents Pakistan from targeting its Nuclear weapons towards PRC. The Chinese are pragmatic and i am absolutely sure they have safeguard. After-all the Pakis slept and continue to sleep with the Americans and also no one knows what the Paki-PRC relationship will be in the future.

With the kind of guidance chips pakis use, any missile can simply change course to Beijing or Shanghai.

They will simply say:

"The missile during its flight remained within the designated flight path and corridor. The metal parts found in a remote area of Dadu, as reported in media today, were part of the motor body, which separated from the missile as planned, well within the safety corridor," it stated.

Pakistani Ballistic Missile Test Failed | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[Agustya]

Ideally , pre-emptive strikes on n-assets and delivery systems should take place as soon as the other side starts beating the drums of war.

 

[Prometheus]

If you guys understand the whole point, what's the aim of India? To finish the paki threat itself. Even after nuking them, regardless of what we say, they won't be wiped off the face of the earth as we don't have that many warheads.

We create 4 different states. Balochistan, Sindh, Pakhtun and Pakjab with Gilgit Baltistan back in our sovereignty.

Baloch, Sindh and Pakhtun land will be independent and PakJab at our mercy.

We completely disarm them and humiliate them that they forget the word "ghairat" forever.

We should have adopted the American stance during the Cuban missile crises, back when India and Pakistan first tested their Nuclear weapons. We should have pulled China in and made it responsible for the Nuclear technologies it supplied to the Pakis. We should have stated that a Pakistani Nuclear attack on India will be considered as an Nuclear attack from China, and that India would Nuke both countries. This would have plugged the Chinese Nuclear and Missile support to Pakistan, and China would have played safe by not indulging anymore in Pakistan . But its a moment lost

 

[Compersion]

Have Pakis threatened to use nuke on Iran and on Israel.

Remember the Islamic State of Pakistan is the first and pioneer Muslin country with Nuclear weapons and is responsible for the Muslim world well-being. This needs to be remembered by all.

If anyone say that the Pakistan are not allowed to move a inch away and re-directing their weapons and nukes from India they got to be ask why.

Is the Pakistan State the Islamic Guardian is that Pakistan only a Anti-India Utensil.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

Guyz i feel we shud also discuss on issues like nuke bunkers in every major city. or planning a attobabad type oppression on paki nuke facilities and rendering them useless. what u guyz think?

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

or maybe a joint opression with israel+US+india? or Israel+russ+India?

 

[sgarg]

India's nuclear doctrine is against first use. The extent of Pakistan's nuclear strike is hard to predict but an attack on New Delhi is very likely. India's response to a Pakistani nuclear strike is likely to be significant. Assuming India's nukes are intact (which I expect will be), Pakistan should expect around 30 simultaneous nuclear strikes on its capital, its major airbases, and army cantonments. I also expect the nuclear strikes will be backed with massive conventional strikes by missiles and rockets from both aircraft as well as land based facilities.

Pakistan's army would find it difficult to stand up after a nuclear exchange.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

India's nuclear doctrine is against first use.

It was modified recently in2010 i believe.
From no first use to no first use against only non nuclear countries.

 

[sgarg]

We should have adopted the American stance during the Cuban missile crises, back when India and Pakistan first tested their Nuclear weapons. We should have pulled China in and made it responsible for the Nuclear technologies it supplied to the Pakis. We should have stated that a Pakistani Nuclear attack on India will be considered as an Nuclear attack from China, and that India would Nuke both countries. This would have plugged the Chinese Nuclear and Missile support to Pakistan, and China would have played safe by not indulging anymore in Pakistan . But its a moment lost

China has far more influence in the world compared to India. A lot of things happen where diplomats keep quiet. The world leaders often act against their stated principals. The relations between States are dictated by realpolitik rather than bland pronouncements.

 

[sgarg]

It was modified recently in2010 i believe.
From no first use to no first use against only non nuclear countries.

No. It is still No first use.

This means that India is committed to conventional warfare even with nuclear armed states until it is attacked with nuclear weapons.