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What is the technical reason for the Delhi Varanasi vande bharat train started 4 years back not increasing its speed beyond the initial 85 kmph speed?

Rly minister has projected vande bharat trains in kerala will touch 130 kmph in next 3 to 4 years. Not sure how this is possible in kerala with its hilly terrain when the relatively flat lands of northern states still haven't allowed VB trains to cross avg 100kmph.
 

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What is the technical reason for the Delhi Varanasi vande bharat train started 4 years back not increasing its speed beyond the initial 85 kmph speed?

Rly minister has projected vande bharat trains in kerala will touch 130 kmph in next 3 to 4 years. Not sure how this is possible in kerala with its hilly terrain when the relatively flat lands of northern states still haven't allowed VB trains to cross avg 100kmph.
It has to do with the current conditions of the tracks. Unless the tracks are straightened more and upgraded to meet the stress of higher speeds and certified for such speeds in safe operating manner, it is unlikely it will go up past 100 kmph. I think that day will come where they will upgrade existing tracks to tracks certified for speeds up tp 200 kmph.
 

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What is the technical reason for the Delhi Varanasi vande bharat train started 4 years back not increasing its speed beyond the initial 85 kmph speed?

Rly minister has projected vande bharat trains in kerala will touch 130 kmph in next 3 to 4 years. Not sure how this is possible in kerala with its hilly terrain when the relatively flat lands of northern states still haven't allowed VB trains to cross avg 100kmph.

Lot of factors are there. Improved Track alignment, modern signaling like ETCS, better yard design. Only then we can increase the average speed across the entire network.

At present IR concentrates on the 100% electrification of tracks. The only speed limited improvements are usage of continous rail in construction for long time now. After electrification we can expect speed up programs.
 

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It has to do with the current conditions of the tracks. Unless the tracks are straightened more and upgraded to meet the stress of higher speeds and certified for such speeds in safe operating manner, it is unlikely it will go up past 100 kmph. I think that day will come where they will upgrade existing tracks to tracks certified for speeds up tp 200 kmph.
Lot of factors are there. Improved Track alignment, modern signaling like ETCS, better yard design. Only then we can increase the average speed across the entire network.

At present IR concentrates on the 100% electrification of tracks. The only speed limited improvements are usage of continous rail in construction for long time now. After electrification we can expect speed up programs.
So till all those changes happen, mango man is better served by using shatabdi/rajdhani if comfort at more affordable price point is the need.
 

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So till all those changes happen, mango man is better served by using shatabdi/rajdhani if comfort at more affordable price point is the need.
Well sometimes you don't want to be caught in a circle or a chicken or the egg situation so it is better to just order the trains and once you have the trains, you have a legal impetus to go ahead and improve the tracks thereby getting the budget allocation request approved to upgrade the tracks.
 

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So till all those changes happen, mango man is better served by using shatabdi/rajdhani if comfort at more affordable price point is the need.
Haven't traveled by train in a long time.bit felt almost insulting to pay a SUPERFAST charge for 65 kmph.
 

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Railways suspends official who delayed Vande Bharat train by 2 minutes, forced to take U-turn
By Aishwarya Nair
First Published Apr 19, 2023, 12:32 PM IST
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The Venad Express was granted the go-ahead as there were more passengers resulting in a two-minute delay for the Vande Bharat train.
Railways suspends official who delayed Vande Bharat train by 2 minutes, forced to take U-turn

Thiruvananthapuram: The Indian Railways took action against its employee who caused a delay of two minutes during the first trial run of the Vande Bharat Express in Kerala. The semi-high speed train stayed for two minutes longer at Piravom station as the signaller gave the first signal to Venad Express.
The Venad Express and Vande Bharat trains arrived at Piravom station at the same time during the latter's first trial run. The Venad Express was granted the go-ahead as there were more passengers. This resulted in a two-minute delay for the Vande Bharat train.
Following this, Kumar, a senior railway employee and railway controller, was suspended. However, the suspension was cancelled when it became debatable and labour unions stepped in.
The Communist Party of India (CPI) State Secretary Kanam Rajendran said that even though the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is trying to speed up the launch, the Vande Bharat Express will not get the expected speed. He also said that approval from the Centre is required for the Silverline project and the discussions for the same will continue.
In order to accelerate Vande Bharat, the Indian Railways intends to substantially revamp the signalling and rail infrastructure in Kerala. There is hope that this will address Kerala's long-standing needs for timely track renovation and the replacement of the outdated signalling system. As track curves are straightened and necessary rails are relocated, the speed of other trains will also increase.
The double distance signalling system and automatic signalling system, which will aid loco pilots by giving them extra time for braking, would also boost speed, according to the Union Railway Minister. Thiruvananthapuram's railway development will cost a total of Rs 156 crore, according to the budget announcement.
The crowding at Thiruvananthapuram railway station would be much decreased with the upgrade of Nemom and Kochuveli as important terminals.
Meanwhile, Indian Railways extended the semi-high-speed train service from Thiruvananthapuram to Kasaragod. Initially, it was proposed to run between Thiruvananthapuram to Kannur only.
 

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I'm telling you Vande Bharat looks better than any train I've seen here in the US.
US anyway isn't a benchmark to see in train-tech, aesthetic or anything. US sucks in public transport despite being a developed country. It's East Asia which India should envy for railways.

So, India hasn't achieved anything if just Indian trains look better than US trains.
 

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