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Russian bidder backs out, Turkey firm keen on buying debt-laden Anil Ambani shipyard
New Delhi: A consortium of Dubai-based GMS and Besiktas Shipyard of Turkey, and two other companies have submitted their final bids for buying out Anil Ambani Group’s Reliance Naval and Engineering Limited (R-Naval), which owns the Gujarat-based Pipavav Shipyard, ThePrint has learnt.

The other two companies that have submitted bids are Gujarat-based APM Terminals and the Naveen Jindal Group, sources in the know of the proceedings under the Insolvency and Bankruptcy Code (IBC) said.


The Committee of Creditors (COC) will meet this week for an evaluation of these bids, the last date for whose submission was 15 August.

United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) of Russia, a keen contender for the shipyard till the Expression-of-Interest process, backed out during the final bidding.

Sources said this was because the company’s management believed the pipeline of new defence naval business was not clear, and also as the Modi government had cancelled a contract for six offshore patrolling vessels from R-Naval.




In the absence of any clear future visibility of business from the government, it didn’t make any sense for USC to bid for the R-Naval shipyard, sources said.

USC had been interested in R-Naval because the Russian firm has been eyeing the Indian Navy’s long-pending Project 75I. The thought at that time was that if the USC acquires R-Naval, it could build new submarines in India, under the Make-in-India initiative. However, the government is clear that Project 75I will be pursued under a strategic partnership, which will involve an Indian shipyard.

12 companies were in fray earlier
A total of 12 companies had earlier expressed interest in acquiring R-Naval, which has a debt of Rs 11,000 crore.

The entire debt of R-Naval is being transferred to the National Asset Reconstruction Company (NARCL), or the “bad bank”.

The resolution of R-Naval debt will take place through NARCL asset management company (AMC), with IDBI as the lead banker of R-Naval.

Russian bidder backs out, Turkey firm keen on buying debt-laden Anil Ambani shipyard

United Shipbuilding Corporation of Russia, one of the keen contenders till the Expression-of-Interest process, backed out during the final bidding for R-Naval.

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Russian bidder backs out, Turkey firm keen on buying debt-laden Anil Ambani shipyard
New Delhi: A consortium of Dubai-based GMS and Besiktas Shipyard of Turkey, and two other companies have submitted their final bids for buying out Anil Ambani Group’s Reliance Naval and Engineering Limited (R-Naval), which owns the Gujarat-based Pipavav Shipyard, ThePrint has learnt.

The other two companies that have submitted bids are Gujarat-based APM Terminals and the Naveen Jindal Group, sources in the know of the proceedings under the Insolvency and Bankruptcy Code (IBC) said.


The Committee of Creditors (COC) will meet this week for an evaluation of these bids, the last date for whose submission was 15 August.

United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) of Russia, a keen contender for the shipyard till the Expression-of-Interest process, backed out during the final bidding.

Sources said this was because the company’s management believed the pipeline of new defence naval business was not clear, and also as the Modi government had cancelled a contract for six offshore patrolling vessels from R-Naval.




In the absence of any clear future visibility of business from the government, it didn’t make any sense for USC to bid for the R-Naval shipyard, sources said.

USC had been interested in R-Naval because the Russian firm has been eyeing the Indian Navy’s long-pending Project 75I. The thought at that time was that if the USC acquires R-Naval, it could build new submarines in India, under the Make-in-India initiative. However, the government is clear that Project 75I will be pursued under a strategic partnership, which will involve an Indian shipyard.

12 companies were in fray earlier
A total of 12 companies had earlier expressed interest in acquiring R-Naval, which has a debt of Rs 11,000 crore.

The entire debt of R-Naval is being transferred to the National Asset Reconstruction Company (NARCL), or the “bad bank”.

The resolution of R-Naval debt will take place through NARCL asset management company (AMC), with IDBI as the lead banker of R-Naval.

Russian bidder backs out, Turkey firm keen on buying debt-laden Anil Ambani shipyard

United Shipbuilding Corporation of Russia, one of the keen contenders till the Expression-of-Interest process, backed out during the final bidding for R-Naval.

theprint.in

And we're just letting them buy it over?!... It's like MaunModi don't want us to vote for him anymore

 

[bhramos]

 

[Bleh]

Compiled from IRDW

Indian Navy is considering a proposal by HAL to procure 18 LCA-Navy Mk1 as an ab initio trainer jets for the naval pilots to hone their skills in Deck-based operation from the aircraft carrier before they graduate to flying high-performance deck based fighter jets like Mig-29k and TEDBF. These jets will be deputed on board both aircraft carriers to serve as an upcoming dedicated carrier training squadron and also has a point air defense interceptor.

NP-1, NP-2, NP-5 will be used to carry out off-nominal landing trials to study & collect data on the stress points on the landing gears, that will be final design specs of what might be ordered later by the Indian Navy.

 

[arkos]

And we're just letting them buy it over?!... It's like MaunModi don't want us to vote for him anymore

What's wrong with them taking it over ?

 

[Bleh]

What's wrong with them taking it over ?

Fucking turks tho?.. That's like letting Pakis buy!

 

[arkos]

Fucking turks tho?.. That's like letting Pakis buy!

Erdogan won't rule forever tho ? They will change like malaysia.

 

[Gessler]

And we're just letting them buy it over?!... It's like MaunModi don't want us to vote for him anymore

There's just no mechanism to exclude businesses from countries that are questioning India's territorial integrity, no mechanism to actively disincentivize countries from maintaining such positions.

Against China we can't do that anyway because of supply chain realities, and Western countries aren't that foolish to openly support Pak claims over India's.

We have to make at least the smaller countries pay a price for choosing the wrong side.

 

[lixun]

1.) Your current Type 054 has no AESA, its got a Type 345 radar for its HQ-16 SAM system.
2.) Above first blind speed, a pulse doppler radar can't measure the radial velocity. So no FCR solution can be calculated an no SAM launched for interception.
3.) No confirmation that the missile they are getting is the YJ-12. But even if we assume its the YJ-12, what then? Its going to be an export version limited below 290km of range and will still be slower than the BrahMos. Indian Navy will still outrange the Paki ships. Add to that, we have a credible defence against these missiles in the form of our MF-STAR AESA, Barak-8 and the cooperative engagement capability of our new ships. If our ships are part of a carrier strike group, we will have an AEW&CS chopper that would detect these missiles incoming from a long distance away, sea skimming won't help that much. But I will agree that if the Pakis get YJ-12, they will be a bit harder to beat in surface warfare. But then again, there is no proof that they are getting it, is there?
4.) Type 039B are not the quietest submarines in the world. Indian Navy are investing in a lot of AUV and airborne assets to track these submarine. Type 39B will have lower serviceability and be louder than Kalvari class. Add to it the drones and ASW aircraft that Indian Navy has and the surface fleet including the likes of Kamorta class, all these assets can interface to form an array the blocks Pakistani submarines from entering into the deep seas. Littorals are the only areas where they can stay safe. And in the littorals, India is deploying 16 ASW-SWC that can make a literal wall near Gujarat to ensure Paki subs are unable to penetrate. Add to it the SMART missile, if any active or passive sensor distributed across the hundreds of AUVs or underwater gliders or passive sonobuoys detect the Paki submarine, SMART missile can be launched from the shore to destroy the submarine and an ASW drone or aircraft can be over that location confirming the kill within minutes.



Agreed. For smaller vessels like OPVs and ASW-SWC, we can equip them with Point-defence, something similar to the American Rolling Airframe Missile based on the DRDO MDPMS (whenever that finishes development). It would have about the same range as Barak-1.

But for other ships like the Kamorta or maybe even the NGMV, we can add the VL-SRSAM. Those ships have the space and the mission profile to require it.

VL-SRSAM is short-range AD in same class as Sea Ceptor (CAMM)/ CAMM-ER or Aster-15. We should replace the Shtil-1 on Talwar and Shivalik as well as Barak-1 on Shivalik with VL-SRSAM. And Project-15 A/B also seem to have some space for four 8-cell launchers of VL-SRSAM. Even in Delhi-class destroyers, we should replace Shtil-1 with eight 8-cell VL-SRSAM launchers for a total of 64 missiles.

This would increase our destroyer loadout to 64 VLS for SAM and 16 for BrahMos (total 80 VLS). In P-15 A/B it would be 32 VLS for Barak-8 LRSAM and 32 VLS for VL-SRSAM. Quite similar to the loadout of the Royal Navy's Daring class after it receives its own SRSAM upgrade.

SR2401C has AESA radar(054AP)
1 ,Do you mean that pulse Doppler radar cannot detect objects above its scanning speed?
2, I did not say that 039 is the best submarine in the world, but he can disperse a lot of the Indian Navy's forces to the Indian Ocean to find these 8 AIP submarines

 

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SR2401C has AESA radar(054AP)
1 ,Do you mean that pulse Doppler radar cannot detect objects above its scanning speed?
2, I did not say that 039 is the best submarine in the world, but he can disperse a lot of the Indian Navy's forces to the Indian Ocean to find these 8 AIP submarines

We don't need to disperse any of our naval assets since we already dedicated ASW platforms.

 

[lixun]

We don't need to disperse any of our naval assets since we already dedicated ASW platforms.

Anti-submarine warfare requires a system. You can go and see how many troops the British used in the Falklands War to find Argentina’s World War II submarines.

 

[fire starter]

Anti-submarine warfare requires a system. You can go and see how many troops the British used in the Falklands War to find Argentina’s World War II submarines.

Nigga we have all systems in place and not to forget Pakistan coastline is very small and with in our 24×7 surveillance range.

 

[lixun]

Nigga we have all systems in place and not to forget Pakistan coastline is very small and with in our 24×7 surveillance range.

If India can monitor the Pakistani 24hours , then there is no big problem.

 

[sorcerer]

MARITIME PARTNERSHIP EXERCISE BETWEEN INDIAN NAVY AND THE PHILIPPINE NAVY – 23 AUGUST 2021


Posted On: 23 AUG 2021 7:19PM by PIB Delhi



Two ships of the Indian Navy, namely INS Ranvijay (Guided Missile Destroyer, D55) and INS Kora (Guided Missile Corvette, P61), on deployment to the Western Pacific, carried out a Maritime Partnership Exercise with BRP Antonio Luna (Frigate, FF 151) of the Philippine Navy on 23 Aug 21 in the West Philippine Sea.


The joint evolutions conducted during the exercise included several operational manoeuvers and the participating ships of both navies were satisfied with the consolidation of interoperability achieved through this operational interaction at sea.


The Indian naval ships are currently deployed to the Western Pacific with an aim to strengthen maritime security collaboration with partner nations. The interaction with BRP Antonio Luna was, therefore, an enriching opportunity for the Indian Navy to consolidate its bilateral relations with the Philippine Navy. In compliance with the prevailing pandemic guidelines, the exercise was conducted in contactless manner and all necessary health and safety protocols were strictly observed. After the exercise, the Indian naval ships are scheduled to call at Manila Port for replenishment.


India and The Philippines share a very robust defence and security partnership built over several years and spanning across all domains. Both navies remain committed to further strengthening bilateral collaboration in the maritime domain towards a collective aim of ensuring a stable, peaceful and prosperous Indo-Pacific.

 

[sorcerer]

And we're just letting them buy it over?!... It's like MaunModi don't want us to vote for him anymore

cmon...buying it not buying it..buyin it..this been happening since 2 years now.
it affects their stock valuation.
and then
finally L&T will buy it with a French partnership i guess.

 

[Bleh]

Drop whatever you are doing & read this....

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[Bleh]

Talwar & Shivalik.

Kamorta & Shivalik.

I never realised why we didn't make more than 3 of these cuties.

 

[sorcerer]

Delivery of first Krivak frigates expected by mid 2023 to India: United Shipbuilding Corporation CEO
Moscow [Russia], August 24 (ANI): Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Alexey Rakhmanov on Monday said the first of two Krivak class stealth frigates built by Russia is expected to be delivered by the middle of 2023 to India.

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[gslv markIII]

Finally!!! But 16 SSM?

They want a destroyer & an LPD in one package??